TopShelfRob
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Maybe I put this in the wrong forum? Or maybe there are no good apps for an Android tablet that work with cached offline maps? I guess I should find out before I buy one.
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If I find it, I log it.
One time I found a railing and thought gee this would be a nice place for a cache and I looked under it and I found a bison tube. Opened it up and it was indeed a puzzle cache. I signed and logged it lol. I wasn't even trying to strong arm it, it just kinda happened.
But that's not cheating, you found it by happenstance. I'd say "good for you" for that. I'm sure some CO would see a difference between luck and someone who's intentionally cheating.
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The fun is finding it. I went cause I wanted to.
That's good to hear.
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I get you. I didn't log them because my friends did. I plan to in the future.
Then you didn't even need to go! LOL To some people the only reason they find the cache, is so they can log it and get +1 smiley! (And some don't even find it and log it anyway!)
Well, at least it's definitely not about the numbers for you.
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Since we're so far off the original topic I'm going to chime in with the obligatory cheap jibe about the way you Americans spell things all wrong and say there's a U in neighboUr. That's how we spell it here in England, so it naturally follows that any other spelling is unacceptable.
Your laborious (see - no extra "u" necessary) spelling is what cost you your empire. If you had not wasted so much time with unnecessary letters, you could have invaded Sweden, Mongolia, Monaco, and the other 19 countries.
I do have to admit that it's a good idea calling it "lift" rather than "elevator".
This is a great history/geography lesson. I was not aware that there are only 23 countries total. Now I'm not nearly as impressed when somebody knows all of the capitals and leaders and Prime Ministers and things. I'm going to become one of those people.
It's actually 24 -- we forgot Lower Slobovia.
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Lets see, visitors go to sign in with their actual names and notice random usernames peppered in with TFTC. Hmm.
That's called a "visitor's sign-in hybrid" -- new cache type, anybody?
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1 22817 SnowBirds VT Current Stats
2 11077 DJ and CAL Current Stats
3 9251 A1D2 Current Stats
4 9098 Fugglestone Current Stats
5 7417 cwgray Current Stats
6 6211 flask Current Stats
7 5587 QSeekers Current Stats
Well she managed to get of the cacherstats leader board but I updated it here for prosperity.
She's only #6 at cacherstats, maybe that was what upset her, not being #5.
But how do you know she's really 6th? There might be two others above her that have opted out, and she's really 8th.
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ooh, ooh! and if we're going to use a baseball hall of fame analogy (thank you, "all statistics are holy" folks!), i do not believe the hall of fame keeps track of all the home runs ever scored by all people playing baseball, ever.
No, they only count major league home runs... just like Geocaching.com only counts caches found that are logged on their website.
If Joe Sixpack hits a home run in the beer league, the MLB won't know.
And if I find a pill bottle in my medicine cabinet, Geocaching.com won't know.
Your move.
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Didn't jholly opt out? And I'd like to be added with 3 bogus cats (my daughter's stuffed toys). Sure, it is inflating my cat count, but anything to get ahead in this leaderboard.
I guess jholly's opting out didn't "hold".
jholly .... 6
frinklabs....5z
lamoracke....3
Chrysalides....3d
etarace's neighbor....2+
etarace....2y
Roman!....2x
Corfman Clan....2c
Mr.Yuck....2
TopShelfRob....1
flask's neighbor....1
flask....1b
SwineFlew....0a
Bear and Ragged....0
Notes: x-plus two birds. y-plus six chickens, a dog, a duck and a woodchuck. z-includes one black and white kitty which is antisocial and fat. a-not counting one cat being housesat for a neighbor. b-including one cat originally mentioned in previous thread. c-plus one dog. d-includes daughter's stuffed animals.
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As the owner of a "third party leaderboard", two cats, and a dog, I find this discussion interesting. I'm not sure how I could ignore a cacher's finds and still maintain valid statistics. There has been requests to ignore "armchair" cachers since bogus finds do have an effect on the statistics.
I don't think you should consider ignoring even "bogus" finds. Barry Bonds and Mark McGwire aren't in the Hall of Fame because their home runs were consider bogus, yet they still count in baseball's statistics. Once you start ignoring some stats, the whole thing is virtually invalid.
Oh, and by the way:
jholly .... 6
frinklabs....5z
lamoracke....3
etarace's neighbor....2+
etarace....2y
Roman!....2x
Corfman Clan....2c
Mr.Yuck....2
TopShelfRob....1
flask's neighbor....1
flask....1b
SwineFlew....0a
Bear and Ragged....0
Notes: x-plus two birds. y-plus six chickens, a dog, a duck and a woodchuck. z-includes one black and white kitty which is antisocial and fat. a-not counting one cat being housesat for a neighbor. b-including one cat originally mentioned in previous thread. c-plus one dog.
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I know there is no right or wrong answer, but I am seeking opinions for what is the best app to use as far as initial navigation from cache-to-cache... I want to get a Android tablet and use an app that will allow me to "cache" the maps and use GPS offline, I will have a MiFi device so I can still pull up cache pages and log finds, etc., when necessary, but I want to limit data usage and not constantly be reloading map data all the time. I'm not so much concerned with after I get out of the car and getting to ground zero, but I mean as a secondary device in the car.
I know that not all maps that work of phone-sized devices always work as great on tablets and vice-versa. Just wanted to some opinions as to what any of you that paperless cache with an Android tablet use.
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i LOVE leaderboards that i actually sign up to be on.
Well, if there is a leaderboard "Most caches found by people who specifically sign up to be counted", you can choose whether or to sign up for it. But if the leaderboard is merely "Most caches found in Vermont", I'd say by logging your finds at Geocaching.com, you have tacitly signed up.
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I just opted out.
Well yes, you did opt out on that particular displaying of this leaderboard, but (and trying to tie this back into the original topic) that doesn't mean that you don't still have six cats, and when asking who has the most cats in this thread, or who has found the most caches in Vermont, or who owns the most 19th century bottles of wine in Germany, that there isn't still a factual leader, whether or not that leader is showing up on a leaderboard or not, is only a matter of how accurate people want that leaderboard to be. If you allow people to opt out, rather than just them to ignore it, it irrevocably taints the accuracy of the leaderboard.
As I said way back in Post #134, does the fact that one cacher who doesn't want anyone knowing that he ranks fourth supercede the fact that the cacher that ranks eighth has the right to not think he is actually seventh because there is someone above him that doesn't want to be counted?
We can erase jholly and her six cats from the cat leaderboard, but should we state that frinklabs has the most cats in this thread with five? That's inaccurate, and a leaderboard that let's people opt out is useless. You can look at it, but it is meaningless. jholly still has 6 cats, and flask still has how ever many caches she has in Vermont, whether it is on the leaderboard or not.
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It would even help to just have a couple more attributes. A challenge attribute and a power trail attribute would be immensely helpful for me, because those are cache types I would generally want to filter out.
Do most folks actually use those things in your area? They are generally useless as any kind of selection criteria around here.
Yeah, my suggestion was manily aimed at improving when viewing the map. Sorting with attributes, or GSAKing or other stuff like that isn't going to change the icons on the map. I generally don't even bother with the attributes, because who knows if they were applied properly or not. But, yes for sorting with a PQ, that could help too.
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I'd like to Opt Out. But as there seems to be no way of doing so... (Slightly on-topic!
)I have NO cat.
I have NO dog either...
Where does that put me, on the leaderboard I'd like to opt out of?
No, there is no way to opt out.
jholly .... 6
frinklabs....5z
lamoracke....3
etarace's neighbor....2+
etarace....2y
Roman!....2x
Mr.Yuck....2
TopShelfRob....1
flask's neighbor....1
flask....1b
SwineFlew....0a
Bear and Ragged....0
Notes: x-plus two birds. y-plus six chickens, a dog, a duck and a woodchuck. z-includes one black and white kitty which is antisocial and fat. a-not counting one cat being housesat for a neighbor. b-including one cat originally mentioned in previous thread.
But even if you could opt out, you would still have 0 cats, just by not listing it all we would be doing would be making the leaderboard inaccurate.
Let's say for instance there was a leaderboard that was "Most caches found in Vermont" and another leaderboard "Most caches found in Vermont among those who have not chosen to opt out" -- both leaderboards could very well exist. If I lived in Vermont and wanted to know where I stood in Vermont, I'd want to know where I stood on the first leaderboard. The second one would be rather arbitrary and meaningless. I wouldn't care to know where I stood only among those who haven't chosen to opt out, I'd want to know where I stood among everyone in the state. I'm mean, we're all in the top 5%. 95% of the people don't even geocache.
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Good recovery. Put me down for two, by the way.
LOL
jholly .... 6
frinklabs....5z
lamoracke....3
etarace's neighbor....2+
etarace....2y
Roman!....2x
Mr.Yuck....2
TopShelfRob....1
flask's neighbor....1
flask....1b
SwineFlew....0a
Notes: x-plus two birds. y-plus six chickens, a dog, a duck and a woodchuck. z-includes one black and white kitty which is antisocial and fat. a-not counting one cat being housesat for a neighbor. b-including one cat originally mentioned in previous thread.
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Wont happen because flask hate leaderboards. Remember?
Since we are on page six, what we had learned about leaderboard here?
Right, but she said since they won't let her opt out, she was going to bascially make heads roll and make it miserable for everyone else. Ergo, if we don't let her opt of of this cat leaderboard, she'll have to go out and get seven cats to take the lead.
She's correct, the subtle hint did not work. The moderator said to study the history, didn't they? Here's a hint: Flask has a Cat.
Oh, this leaderboard is specifically only addressing cats accounted for in this thread. If I have to go research cats that have been addressed in other threads, well, that's a Pandora's Box I don't want to open. Although, now that you have mentioned it here, I guess I have to add it:
jholly .... 6
frinklabs....5z
lamoracke....3
etarace's neighbor....2+
etarace....2y
Roman!....2x
TopShelfRob....1
flask's neighbor....1
flask....1b
SwineFlew....0a
Notes: x-plus two birds. y-plus six chickens, a dog, a duck and a woodchuck. z-includes one black and white kitty which is antisocial and fat. a-not counting one cat being housesat for a neighbor. b-including one cat originally mentioned in previous thread.
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Ok ok. I gave in. No cats. But I am house sitting one cat.
Now. Can we just get back on topic?
I wont mind if this thread get locked with live cats in it.
jholly .... 6
frinklabs....5z
lamoracke....3
etarace's neighbor....2+
etarace....2y
Roman!....2x
TopShelfRob....1
flask's neighbor....1
SwineFlew....0a
flask....0
Notes: x-plus two birds. y-plus six chickens, a dog, a duck and a woodchuck. z-includes one black and white kitty which is antisocial and fat. a-not counting one cat being housesat for a neighbor.
so get out of my way. starting today, i've got heads to step on. i am about to create a very harsh adversarial environment.I'm just waiting to see if we can get flask to go out and get 7 cats in an effort to dominate this leaderboard.
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I just think having a sub-class of mystery caches will only confuse people and cause problems down the road. I'm all for breaking out challenges into their own type (and I still believe they shouldn't really be caches at all, but rather "achievements" on the GC site)...but I don't honestly see an advantage to making straight-out puzzles their own type. Too much overlap, too much gray area.
Well, no idea is perfect. Just a proposal.
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How come your white and black kitty is antisocial? Is it so he gets to be the most fat?
I have two cats, one dog, six chickens, and a duck.
My neighbor has at least two cats, the cats come into my yard often.
Also, there is a very fat woodchuck that roams with the chickens.
Wow.
jholly .... 6
frinklabs....5z
lamoracke....3
etarace's neighbor....2+
etarace....2y
Roman!....2x
TopShelfRob....1
flask's neighbor....1
flask....0
Notes: x-plus two birds. y-plus six chickens, a dog, a duck and a woodchuck. z-includes one black and white kitty which is antisocial and fat.
(I'm still pending a ruling on whether the woodchuck should count or not.)
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Those discussing "flask's cat" are well-advised to study their history. It is "flask's neighbor's cat" -- which changes the analysis significantly. So, perhaps, we all ought to get back to discussing leaderboards instead of cats, yes?
Your subtle hint didn't work.
We are discussing a leaderboard.
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Sorry -- I have five (5) cats:
And - we have a new leader:
frinklabs....5
lamoracke....3
Roman!.....2*
TopShelfRob....1
flask's neighbor....1
flask....0
Note: *-plus 2 birds
I'm not sure I'd want to be at the top of this leaderboard. That's a lot of litter boxes to empty.
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Those discussing "flask's cat" are well-advised to study their history. It is "flask's neighbor's cat" -- which changes the analysis significantly. So, perhaps, we all ought to get back to discussing leaderboards instead of cats, yes?
OK, updated leaderboard:
lamoracke....3
Roman!.....2*
TopShelfRob....1
flask's neighbor....1
flask....0
Note: *-plus 2 birds
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In fact, if it is any easier to think of (and implement) it this way, think of mystery/unknown as still being just one cache type, but with three different icons to choose from in the submission process:
- mystery (puzzle) - only puzzles
- mystery (challenge) - only challenges
- mystery (unknown) - catch-all for anything else
- mystery (puzzle) - only puzzles
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Past Find D/T changed yesterday, D/T grid now incomplete
in General geocaching topics
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Was it adjusted or corrected? I think it makes a difference. If, for example, you found a cache when it was rated 4.5, and then a change in conditions caused it be changed to a 3.0, then for your grid you should be able to claim it as 4.5. Just use a screenshot or whatever.
But if was corrected, i.e. it was mis-rated 4.5 to begin with, then you actually found a 3.0 difficulty cache, and depending how honest you want to play the game, you should only count finding a 3.0 towards your grid. It doesn't matter if you drove 100 miles because you thought it would be a 4.5, if you actually found a 3.0, that's what you found. The goal in filling the grid is to find the 81 different difficluty/terrain combinations, not just 81 caches that have convienently covered the 81 different combinations, regardless of their actual difficulty. If all you want to do is fill the grid, I'm sure you can find some caches that are graded improperly that make it easier than it should be, especially in certain parts of the country.