flat_lander
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before adding in difficulty it would be better if you had logged in at least several caches so you would know what you are talking aboutDon't you love how people always assume you cache under the same usename you post to the forums.
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I think it would be nice if the difficutly of a cache would be factored in, rather than shear numbers. I think you should get more points for scoring a cache that is say... underwater in a shark infested area that's surrounded by barbed wire and rusty nails, then a cache that one doesn't even have to get out of their car to bag. Or you could even have a difficulty average as a separate stat.
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Personally, Even if a cached 'biner was climbing spec, I'd still not use it for climbing. You're tempting fate by using gear with an unknown history. Not worth the risk when 'biners are relativly cheap. I'd relegate it to chalkbag, or waterbottle duity.
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After recently updating my Vista it did take a while to re-aquire everyting. You might look through the install page, but for the Vista patch it specifically states that user uploaded map/waypoint data will be lost.
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While not a big issue while driving, an electronic compass is usefull when caching to get a bearing to the cache while standing still as it will update your bearing without having to be traveling. This is great for the last few meters of your search. You can certainly use a regular compass for this, but it is so much easier to follow the bearing info on the gps, then have to get a position then figure a bearing from a regular compass based on your current location.
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I think they would have had to extend the length of the show if he had to lace up hiking boots instead of tennies, and a gortex parka instead of his blue cardigan.
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While I agree that a condom is not exactly appropriate for a cache item, I'm not sure I agree that all items placed in a cache should be logged on the cache page. Part of the enjoyment of seaching for a cache is the "I wonder what's in it" factor. I am not saying that I cache because I want loot. Most of the time I take nothing. But I enjoy the thought that I might find something unique and interesting. Having a detailed log of every transaction for a cache nixes that enjoyment pretty quick. I do agree that items should be logged in the logbook so there is some accountability. But I would almost prefer not to see those lists on the website... or at least have them shown seperately so they are possible to avoid if you want to retain the suspense.
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I'm from the great plains of Kansas... thus the username. However, I love the mountains and try to travel somewhere that has them as often as possible. Having Colorado as a neighbor is a definite plus.
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I was just curious if many cache placers changed the camo, or container itself, based on the season. For example, a green and leafy camo for spring/summer, and a brown and twiggy cammo for winter/fall? The part of the country I live in has distinct seasons and the foliage changes to prove it. Re-camo'ing the cache seems like it might be needed to keep it safe.
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I emailed you, but just to make sure....
I picked up the extra ammo cans for you yesterday. Email me if you want to meet in KC this weekend so I can get them to you.
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I swung by and picked up several cans from him yesterday. Very nice guy. He still had quite a few left, all in good shape. I'd never seen the 120cal cans. They are pretty huge. Anyway, the price is great and the stuff is quality.
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I was just curious what people's experiences have been with placing caches on state park land. Do most of you check with park authorities before placing your cache? If so, are most parks receptive or not? How may of you have placed caches anyway after being shot down by the park?
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Ok.. I'll contact the guy and pick up extras for you. I'll probably be able to swing them by KC next weekend. I'll email you so we can work out a time to make the exchange.
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I do go to KC almost every weekend. I'm from Olathe originally and end up meeting up with friends or relatives most weekends. I doubt I'll be heading there this weekend, but probably the next for sure. If I can get "confirmations" of how many you want I can pick them up and we can meet in KC somewhere. Would you be willing to meet downtown KC, Plaza area, or in JO County somewhere?
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I just emailed him to inquire about picking some up. I commute to Topeka from Lawrence daily. I realize it's not THAT far away from Topeka, but if anyone wants to pick some up from Lawrence, I'll buy a few extra.
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Use old beer cans or fast food burger containers (or the burger that was in it). Most people think it is garbage and pass it by! Plus it allows these contrainers to live out the rest of their lives away from the evil trash dump. Make sure they have some kind of fungi or fly-infested food bits on them and you can gaurantee you cache will be a difficult one to bag.
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It is very interesting hearing all of your opinions. To clarify what I'm wanting to accomplish and to answer some of your questions...
The rappel in question does indeed have a bomber tree (2ft+ diameter) along with several other smaller trees for an anchor. Properly slinging these makes as solid an anchor as I've ever come across. I would never ask other's to do something that I was not 100% confident it could be done safely if the person has the required skills.
The cache WILL NOT in any way damage/affect the natural state of the cliff. There is a small ledge which would be the target for a very very small part of the multi-cache (I'm thinking of a Key that would open the next part of the cache).
Yes, the first part of the cache would be located at a park at the base of said cliff. The instructions there would make very clear that the next part requires proper gear, training, and a bit of risk assessment on the part of the cacher. They would also be able to see what they would be up against very clearly at that point and hopefully be able to make an educated choice.
While I appreciate people's ideas on how to make this safe, I do not want to play mother and father to those looking for the cache. By this I mean that I do not think it is my responsibility to judge who is and is not capable or qualified to do a rappel safely. I would rather not place the cache than have to grant permission for people to go for it.
I definitely think it would be appropriate to publish the skills needed to tackle this cache on the website. If they didn't see that I intend to publish the same info in part 1 of the cache (before heading up the cliff).
As I'm still new to this activity I love learning about a community's ethic code. I guess for me the question comes down to... In the world of Geocaching, where there are not necessarily any pre-assumed skills, is it ethical to leave risk assessment up to the cacher so long as the person placing the cache makes it possible for properly trained and equipped to safely hunt the prize?
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A cousin of his must be the logo of the makers of Handspring PDA's
-flatlander
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Living in KS I can assure you that cliffs (much less climbable cliffs) are few an far between
Not that there aren't any. There are indeed places to rock climb (on real rock, not plastic) in KS/KC. But it is still a seriously vertically challenged state. I makes you apprecate your vacation road trips even more!-flatlander
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I've got an idea for a multi-cache that would involve finding part of the cache in mid-rappel from a local 60ft cliff. I think it would be quite challenging and make for a great hunt. However, as I'm still quite new to geocaching, and I've been reading several internet sites who suggest it is frowned upon to impose too much risk upon the cacher. I would say that each person should be responsible for themselves and should be able to choose whether a risk of getting to a chace is acceptable to them. As a climber, I've learned that risk assessment is something up to the individual. However, I also understand that putting that risk in front of people can sometimes have unforseen consequences for those without enough common sense to proceed with the correct attitude, gear, and training. What some of your opinions? Is there an agreed upon geocaching "ethic" that applies here?
Thanks,
-flatlander
A new "twist" and challenge
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I don't think there were nearly enough quoted words in the original post. I'd like to propose that there be a "minimum" of "three" quoted "phrases" per post.
that is all.
"flat_lander"