+The Forester Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 How do squirrels locate their caches? Last year was a Beechmast year and I have several mature Beeches which have been shedding prodigious quantities of Beechnuts onto one of the lawns just outside my office window at Forester Towers. I've noticed that when the squirrels bury a cache, they sit bolt upright for a couple of seconds just after the cache-placement, apparently studying the local features and nearby landmarks to 'fix' the position in their memory. When we had a cold snap a month or two ago, the squirrels' caching activities went into reverse and they howked nuts out of their caches with speed and efficiency. They clearly knew exactly where to go, despite the snow cover. Perhaps they do it by scent? Perhaps by using position-fixing techniques which Surveyors call transit fixing?; So I thought until I witnessed a very strange bit of squirrel behaviour. As well as squirrels, I also have several rabbits who like to feed on that lawn. One day I noticed that one of the squirrels was doing the alarm/threat gesture, whereby they quiver and flick their tail to indicate fear or anger. It was clearly watching a rabbit, from halfway up a nearby tree, and was getting very anxious and angry when the rabbit was on top of one the caches. When the rabbit moved just one foot away from the cache, the squirrel relaxed. When the rabbit hopped over to one of the other caches, the squirrel started the threat display again. On a couple of occasions I've seen the squirrel chasing off a wood pigeon which was pecking the ground at one of the caches. The squirrel raced to the position from about 20 metres away. to cahse the brid away from the cache Now, here's my question: how did the squirrel know that the rabbit was on top of the cache? It couldn't have been by scent because the squirrel was upwind of the cache(s). It couldn't have been by transit fixing because you have to be in direct line of sight of the noted bearings for that to work. How does the squirrel perform what amounts to offset fixing? How do they 'map' their caches? Any ideas? Cheers, The Forester The first person to say that the squirrels use GPS goes straight to the back of the class! Quote Link to comment
+CuplaKiwis Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 perhaps they can form a 3D map of the surroundings based on the observation pauses you noted - they can then correlate this to current position and react accordingly. More importantly, did the squirrel list them as individual caches or as one big multi? Quote Link to comment
markandlynn Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 All mamalls have an area of the body that contains polarized magnetic particles (humans them in the nose strangely enough) the exact use of these particles has not yet been discovered until now.............. Other than that it must have a great memory for certain facts just like lynn wonder how far id get if i called her memory "squirell like" Quote Link to comment
+QDman Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 So does that make the rabbit a muggle? Quote Link to comment
+stu_and_sarah Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Consider this... you place a few geocaches in the autumn. In winter, you die if you can't find them. I bet _you'd_ make sure you remembered where they were! I honestly have no idea how they do it - maybe they just have a large proportion of their brain geared towards caching. Stu Quote Link to comment
Alan White Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 I put "how do squirrels find their nuts" into Google and got, inter alia, this and this. Quote Link to comment
+kbootb Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Let's be honest, what else does a squirrel have to remember. Their brain is evolved to building up 3d maps. They have to know all the pathways in the canopy so they can belt around when being chased without encountering a dead end. Quote Link to comment
+Simply Paul Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Let's be honest, what else does a squirrel have to remember. This would explain why I've never had a birthday card from a squirrel. SP Quote Link to comment
+The Forester Posted April 27, 2005 Author Share Posted April 27, 2005 I've never had a birthday card from a squirrel. They grab your twig with those sharp finger nails. They help themselves to your nuts. They never write; they never phone. They're complete hussies! Quote Link to comment
+wildlifewriter Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 (edited) How do squirrels locate their caches? (vast snip) It's known that squirrels have excellent spatial awareness and (despite having eyes on the sides of their heads) very keen depth perception. These abilities, combined with an instinctive "mental map" of their local area, mean that they can leap from tree to tree in relative safety - and the same instinctive recognition of nearby landmarks may aid them in finding hidden food stores. This could be confirmed by a simple experiment: where some artificial features (vertical poles, for example) would be placed in a study area, and then moved around before the onset of winter, to see if the animals can still find their nuts. Edited by Lactodorum to remove unnecessary comments........ -Wlw. Edited April 27, 2005 by Lactodorum Quote Link to comment
+Alibags Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 saucer of milk for that man! Quote Link to comment
ClanWhippy Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 This could be confirmed by a simple experiment: where some artificial features (vertical poles, for example) would be placed in a study area, and then moved around before the onset of winter, to see if the animals can still find their nuts. our house backs onto a cemetry and there's a tree which local squirels come down to jump onto our back wall and then into our garden to feed from the bird table. every couple of years or so i prune a few of the lower branches of the tree, and thereafter for several days, if not a week or two, all the squirels coming down the tree pause at the points where i've removed branches. prior to the branch removal they come straight down the tree and jump onto our wall without hesitation. i presume they have a very good mental 3d map of the branches (which i suppose are paths to them) and that my removing branches makes them have to think. a bit like driving somewhere you know and then hitting unexpected roadworks. Quote Link to comment
Deego Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 (edited) Now thats my pocket's full of nuts, where did I put the GPS so I can stash them for christmas Took this near a cache, Wonder if he was FTF Edited April 28, 2005 by Deego Quote Link to comment
+John & Hazel Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 A quick change into caching gear Quote Link to comment
+Team Maddie UK Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Deego and John and Hazel... Fabulous pics! Well done, Martin & Lynn Quote Link to comment
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