+WoodsWoman Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 Tonight I was informed that a find of mine from September, 2004, was deleted. I have emailed the cache owner who has not replied to me. Although it was not a virtual, there were questions to answer. I logged the find in the logbook, answered the questions, emailed the answers to the owner, and logged it on the web site. Now, several months later, without any advance warning and for no apparent reason, he/she chose to delete it. First of all, shouldn't there be some geocachers' etiquette about informing me? I cannot imagine why it was done as I did everything correctly. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 First recognize that you may not have done it correctly. If your log was wrong, or a spoiler, or contained something they found offensive they could have deleted it for those reasons, or others. Having said that to not tell you why your log was delted was rude. Emailing the owner was the right thing to do. It puts you in the position of waiting. Quote Link to comment
+WoodsWoman Posted March 29, 2005 Author Share Posted March 29, 2005 The answers were correct. I did post a photo but indicated it was a spoiler. Where I come from, the cache owners usually indicate in their descriptions if they will delete spoiler photos. And after so many months?? Give me a break! I agree, there should have been an email first. Thanks. Quote Link to comment
+Miragee Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 I'm sorry that happened to you. It will be interesting to see what the cache owner finally says . . . if they ever contact you. I recently went to a unique place out in the California desert. While I was there, I took tons of pictures, and just before the batteries went dead in my GPSr, I took a reading from the top of the "mountain" thinking I would submit it as a "virtual" after I got home. Well, it turned out it already was a virtual . . . Even though I had not taken a picture of my GPSr with Salvation Mountain in the background, the cache owners allowed me to log the cache anyway. That attitude seems like more of the spirit of what Geocaching should be about than what happened to you. Quote Link to comment
+carleenp Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 It would have been best for them to contact you. That is polite. I say politely (ignore that they were not necessarily polite) email them again and re-inquire. In the end, if they do not respond or restore your log or let you repost it, you can do one of several things. (1) repost anyway and see what happens, just leave out the pic in case that is the issue with them, (2) post your find on an archived cache (preferably your own or with permission of the cache owner) and state that you are posting it there to get credit for the find, or (3) forget it and let it go even if it is icky. Quote Link to comment
Radman Forever Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 If I were the owner, I would've just asked you to remove the spoiler picture since the pic proves you were there and just leave it that. To delete your find over six months from the time you found it and with no warning is just plain rude! Quote Link to comment
+jimmyreno Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 Any ideas? Remember who the locator is and don't bother with anymore of his caches. There're 100,000 others to choose from Quote Link to comment
+JohnnyVegas Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 I have had to delete only one log so far, In the case of the log I deleted (Without contacting the finder first) the cache was a Multi and the person who loged the find had icluded all the information to find the cache, they also included photos that included all the information for the legs of the cache, and also included web site links that included all the information for the legs of the cache. I did not contact them and ask them to change there log before hand becasue not all geocachers check there e-mail every day and several people had this cache on their watch list. After this person reloged there find they sent me an e-mail complaning that I had deleted all the hard work that went into there log, I guess to them all the hard work I put into setting up the cache did not mean anything. But then again I live in the San Francisco area so I guess that is to be expected This persons log was nothing but a spoiler. Quote Link to comment
+Marky Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 Are jimmyreno and JohnnyVegas related? --Marky Quote Link to comment
+Milbank Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 Sorry to hear about your find being deleted. It would take a lot for me to delete someone's find on one of my caches. Care to tell us what cache it was? Quote Link to comment
+AtoZ Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 Just contact them. see when they were online last, repost and see what happens. I once accidently deleted a log, YES it happens had the wrong person. But I appoligized profusley etc... But the preson I ment to delete claimed a partial find on a multi, NOT. Ol well just re log it. cheers Quote Link to comment
+WoodsWoman Posted March 29, 2005 Author Share Posted March 29, 2005 Cache was GCJZFY in Colorado. Thanks, everybody, for all the replies. Quote Link to comment
+caderoux Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 Someone deleted one of my locationless finds on a technicality that I didn't violate 100%. I don't mind that. What I do mind is that when your log is deleted, you don't get a copy of it with the deletion notification. However, thanks to GSAK, I never have to worry about losing information which used to be on the site here. Quote Link to comment
+cudlecub Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 I recently ran into the same problem. I'm still wondering why it was deleted but understand more after talking with some cachers in the area it occured. The cache was a micro that kept disappearing because it was placed at a rest stop without permission. The cache owner then decided since it kept disappearing they would take it upon themselves to just make it a virtual with no "requirements." Well, I logged my find and the next thing I know my log is deleted and the cache is archived with a note from an approver that they couldn't turn the cache into a virtual. There's not even the option of a note on the cache now. oh well..... Quote Link to comment
Keystone Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Someone deleted one of my locationless finds on a technicality that I didn't violate 100%. I don't mind that. What I do mind is that when your log is deleted, you don't get a copy of it with the deletion notification. However, thanks to GSAK, I never have to worry about losing information which used to be on the site here. When a log is deleted, you should have received an e-mail notification. In that notification is a hyperlink to the log's separate "permalink" page, so you can still read the text, restore the log, copy it elsewhere, etc. Quote Link to comment
+WoodsWoman Posted March 30, 2005 Author Share Posted March 30, 2005 Finally heard from the cache owner and I have now re-entered my find. It seems he archived some things incorrectly. I have no idea how many other finders had the same problem. Points out why it is good etiquette to inform the finder first. Thanks for all the help. Quote Link to comment
+Team Wampus Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 ...placed at a rest stop...they would take it upon themselves to just make it a virtual with no "requirements." So we can get a smiley just for going to the bathroom?!?!? Quote Link to comment
+greende Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 ...placed at a rest stop...they would take it upon themselves to just make it a virtual with no "requirements." So we can get a smiley just for going to the bathroom?!?!? My three year old twins get a smiley when they go to the bathroom! Quote Link to comment
+caderoux Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Someone deleted one of my locationless finds on a technicality that I didn't violate 100%. I don't mind that. What I do mind is that when your log is deleted, you don't get a copy of it with the deletion notification. However, thanks to GSAK, I never have to worry about losing information which used to be on the site here. When a log is deleted, you should have received an e-mail notification. In that notification is a hyperlink to the log's separate "permalink" page, so you can still read the text, restore the log, copy it elsewhere, etc. I got an email but I don't think it had a permalink - I'll have to check my archives. Quote Link to comment
+cudlecub Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 ...placed at a rest stop...they would take it upon themselves to just make it a virtual with no "requirements." So we can get a smiley just for going to the bathroom?!?!? My three year old twins get a smiley when they go to the bathroom! Better a smiley at a rest stop than a smelly at home. Quote Link to comment
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