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Jeremy

Jeremy

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After this particular thread where it was revealed that the topic was created merely as an inside bet, I wasn't so much concerned about the topic but the fact that the original post was merely created to elicit a response.

 

I am well aware that there are folks in these forums with an agenda (not related to the above topic), and tend to create topics mostly to put forth their own agenda, but at least they are in some way being sincere. I hope this doesn't become a trend for others to use these forums as a stomping ground for fakery and deception - at least any more than it already is.

 

Let's try and make this a fair and honest forum. Please?

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Moose Mob

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Well Jeremy, I would hope that you would admit that what transpired did prove a point. A topic can get started and have a lot of well thought, open conversations going until a few folks jump in and take over the conversation. On many many occurances, this has caused those with opinions and concerns to bow out because of a few very vocal folks who will not allow others to speak openly.

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GRANPA ALEX

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Realistically, all forum posts are placed to generate responses, even the ones "with an agenda" - it's the nature of the beast.

 

It is more honest to post for reaction/response/fun than to have an agenda that pretends freedom from hypocrisy while thrusting personal opinion on everyone else in the disguise of guileless truth & fairplay.

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fizzymagic

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I wasn't so much concerned about the topic but the fact that the original post was merely created to elicit a response.

I think it's worth pointing out that I would never have started such a topic only because of a bet. I did that one because, I believe, it provided a useful insight about the forums.

 

The fact that there are people here who will take the time out of their busy schedules to attack somebody for posting a concern that they don't feel is important enough says a great deal about the environment here in the forums.

 

I was under the impression that moderation was intended to reduce the number of personal attacks in the forums, but I have observed that attacks calling others "whiners" and the like have multiplied in recent months, and that those attacks are rarely, if ever, addressed by the mods.

 

Unevenly-applied forum guidelines are probably worse than no guidelines at all.

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AtoZ

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I guess the forum are somw what like the old barbershop or the city gates where the elders of the village or tirbe could gather and rumanate about current events, or just discuss passing muses. But uinfortunately what a forum give si a degree of animoty and there for folks can be as crass or contankerous as they want with out have to be accountable fo what they say of do. Mosty because you do not have to look that person in the face the next day. You do not realize tht the person you just blased/flame/putdown etc... is a real person. It is like people in cars they feel they are in there own world so they do thing they would not do in RL FTF.

So what do we do take everything we here with a gain of NaCl.

cheers

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El Diablo

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The fact that there are people here who will take the time out of their busy schedules to attack somebody for posting a concern that they don't feel is important enough says a great deal about the environment here in the forums.

 

I was under the impression that moderation was intended to reduce the number of personal attacks in the forums, but I have observed that attacks calling others "whiners" and the like have multiplied in recent months, and that those attacks are rarely, if ever, addressed by the mods.

 

Unevenly-applied forum guidelines are probably worse than no guidelines at all.

Did you not start the attack when you condemned people for using stickers to sign a log book? Maybe you should have started the thread off as to what others thought, rather than to voice your own opinion in such a crass way.

 

El Diablo

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Divine

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Did you not start the attack when you condemned people for using stickers to sign a log book? Maybe you should have started the thread off as to what others thought, rather than to voice your own opinion in such a crass way.

But that way he got the four attackers quicker, being one of them himself. B)

 

Hmmm ... me thinks Jeremy has won the bet he made on this thread.

LOL, my thoughts exactly. :mad:

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AuntieWeasel

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I was under the impression that moderation was intended to reduce the number of personal attacks in the forums, but I have observed that attacks calling others "whiners" and the like have multiplied in recent months, and that those attacks are rarely, if ever, addressed by the mods.

Oh, yuck, Fizzy...say it ain't so! I was amused at your thread, even though I was taken in. But now you tell me your real grievance is moderators not doing enough to force people to be nice?

 

Geez.

 

How horrible.

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Mr. Snazz

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"But then I would have to go elsewhere to get my angst watching entertainment...... "

 

Darn, here it is Tuesday already, and there's the "A" word....and I was thinking we had a good shot at going a week without seeing that word..... :lol:

That reminds me, House is on FOX tonight.

 

Any bets on how many wrong diagnosis he will go through tonight?

 

Better start us all on proctorian-D just in case.

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Stony2008

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I think it really started out as a sincere thread but on the count that he was getting whooped I think he quickly changed his mind and said it was a bet to cover up. I'm not convinced it really was a bet. Maybe I'm being paranoid but has anyone even spoke to the other guy that made the bet. And if it was a bet what did you win?

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gridlox

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But uinfortunately what a forum give si a degree of animoty and there for folks can be as crass or contankerous as they want with out have to be accountable fo what they say of do. Mosty because you do not have to look that person in the face the next day. You do not realize tht the person you just blased/flame/putdown etc... is a real person.

Maybe a requirement of...

•a "Real Name" as your screen name (At the minimum a first name & no alter-egos)

•a ISP valid email address (no free hotmail, yahoo, .... accounts allowed)

•an actual picture of yourself either as your avatar or in your signature

•and the state you are from

...would help clear the board of troublemakers!! :D

 

Another forum that I am a part of rewrote the membership requirements about a year ago to the requierments above after things got out of hand with flamers right & left, and numerous sock puppet accounts by multiple banned people.

 

Things quickly were under control.

 

Once people lost their aninimoty and had to take personal responsibilty for their actions, they quickly cleaned up their act.

 

And the ones that didn't were reprimanded and/or banned by the Admins.

Sure we lost a bunch to begin with. But most were the trouble makers that the requirements were put in place to weed out.

 

But things have only gotten better in the past year and our membership has doubled to over 2500 in that time.

Small potatoes in comparison to the membership here I assume, but for a trade(small business) related site it is great!

 

Just some thoughts to consider! :lol:

 

D-man :D

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mrking

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I wasn't so much concerned about the topic but the fact that the original post was merely created to elicit a response.

I think it's worth pointing out that I would never have started such a topic only because of a bet. I did that one because, I believe, it provided a useful insight about the forums.

 

The fact that there are people here who will take the time out of their busy schedules to attack somebody for posting a concern that they don't feel is important enough says a great deal about the environment here in the forums.

 

I was under the impression that moderation was intended to reduce the number of personal attacks in the forums, but I have observed that attacks calling others "whiners" and the like have multiplied in recent months, and that those attacks are rarely, if ever, addressed by the mods.

 

Unevenly-applied forum guidelines are probably worse than no guidelines at all.

<shakeshead>sigh</shakeshead>

It's because of people like you that I have left other forums, maybe it is time to leave this one as well. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

It started off so nicely too.

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Azaruk

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I find it interesting that, after one final post from the OP in the sticker thread, the thread was closed to stop any further comments.

 

THAT was more interesting than all the other comments.

 

And to answer the question posed in THAT thread: I looked in the mirror as suggested, and discovered someone that I really like!!

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Radman Forever

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I think 99% of all posts in the thread are sincere. I don't know if I'm living in a delusional state, but in the last two and a half years of reading the threads everybody has opinions and either sticks by them or is introduced into a different way of seeing things and change opinions that way. People post their opinion or start a conversation piece and everyone gives their take on the subject, even though it sometimes erupts into fighting, new ideas can be introduced.

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Radman Forever

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Maybe a requirement of...

•a "Real Name" as your screen name (At the minimum a first name & no alter-egos)

•a ISP valid email address (no free hotmail, yahoo, .... accounts allowed)

•an actual picture of yourself either as your avatar or in your signature

•and the state you are from

...would help clear the board of troublemakers!! :rolleyes:

I disagree with that:

 

a real name sa your screen name: way against that, because our nicknames are used for more than just the forums and some have used the same nicknames for several years. plus, some people wouldn't like giving their real name, even if it is their first name.

 

isp email address: I don't have an isp address (well, one I don't use) and only have a yahoo e-mail, I would be punished for having a yahoo e-mail? that would suck!

 

actual picture: no way, again maybe people don't want their personal information or photographs all over the internet, some people are private and shouldn't be punished for that.

 

state you're from: same as above, people shouldn't be punished for wanting to be private.

 

The problem with these is that there is more here than just a forum. If people don't want everyone to see their personal info, that should be protected!

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caderoux

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"Non-anonymous" forums do tend to the higher quality, that's for sure.

 

But participation is definitely lower, because people seem to enjoy the protection of (pseudo-)anonymity which forums generally provide.

 

The forums here are on the well-above-average side - that's because it links forum activity to other profile information which is non-posting related - namely your geocaching activity, like photos and logs.

 

I've never been one for online personae, and I use my real name everywhere.

 

Cade

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CharlieP

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I hope this doesn't become a trend for others to use these forums as a stomping ground for fakery and deception - at least any more than it already is.

I have posted to other boards where posts made only to elicit emotional responses or deceive become so prevalent that the board becomes useless. This kind of thing is often called "trolling". It is one of the best ways to drive off all of the sincere folks and leave the board to a small group of neurotics.

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Mr. Snazz

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I hope this doesn't become a trend for others to use these forums as a stomping ground for fakery and deception - at least any more than it already is.

I have posted to other boards where posts made only to elicit emotional responses or deceive become so prevalent that the board becomes useless. This kind of thing is often called "trolling". It is one of the best ways to drive off all of the sincere folks and leave the board to a small group of neurotics.

Trolling? I've never heard of this. I guess you learn something new every day!

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New England n00b

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Maybe a requirement of...

•a "Real Name" as your screen name (At the minimum a first name & no alter-egos)

•a ISP valid email address (no free hotmail, yahoo, .... accounts allowed)

•an actual picture of yourself either as your avatar or in your signature

•and the state you are from

...would help clear the board of troublemakers!! :rolleyes:

I disagree with that:

 

a real name sa your screen name: way against that, because our nicknames are used for more than just the forums and some have used the same nicknames for several years. plus, some people wouldn't like giving their real name, even if it is their first name.

 

isp email address: I don't have an isp address (well, one I don't use) and only have a yahoo e-mail, I would be punished for having a yahoo e-mail? that would suck!

 

actual picture: no way, again maybe people don't want their personal information or photographs all over the internet, some people are private and shouldn't be punished for that.

 

state you're from: same as above, people shouldn't be punished for wanting to be private.

 

The problem with these is that there is more here than just a forum. If people don't want everyone to see their personal info, that should be protected!

Gotta agree.

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Team GPSaxophone

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But uinfortunately what a forum give si a degree of animoty and there for folks can be as crass or contankerous as they want with out have to be accountable fo what they say of do.  Mosty because you do not have to look that person in the face the next day.  You do not realize tht the person you just blased/flame/putdown etc... is a real person.

Maybe a requirement of...

•a "Real Name" as your screen name (At the minimum a first name & no alter-egos)

•a ISP valid email address (no free hotmail, yahoo, .... accounts allowed)

•an actual picture of yourself either as your avatar or in your signature

•and the state you are from

...would help clear the board of troublemakers!! :rolleyes:

 

Another forum that I am a part of rewrote the membership requirements about a year ago to the requierments above after things got out of hand with flamers right & left, and numerous sock puppet accounts by multiple banned people.

 

Things quickly were under control.

 

Once people lost their aninimoty and had to take personal responsibilty for their actions, they quickly cleaned up their act.

 

And the ones that didn't were reprimanded and/or banned by the Admins.

Sure we lost a bunch to begin with. But most were the trouble makers that the requirements were put in place to weed out.

 

But things have only gotten better in the past year and our membership has doubled to over 2500 in that time.

Small potatoes in comparison to the membership here I assume, but for a trade(small business) related site it is great!

 

Just some thoughts to consider! :huh:

 

D-man :blink:

Just a hunch, but I'm guessing "gridlox" is not your real name.

 

Neither is this a picture of you: 43660d55-06ee-4433-86c5-04a457676aa6.jpg

 

As far as a "real" email account, I use Yahoo, Hotmail, and Gmail so I can check my mail from anywhere. I've also moved from state to state a few times, and have switched ISP's more than that. I've had my Yahoo account for more than 5 years! I'd rather not have to tell everyone I have a new email address *again* every time I move. I never use my ISP's email service. Heck, I don't even know what my name and password are on their system.

 

oh, and my city and state are posted in my signature line:

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