avroair Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 I haven't seen any CITO events posted yet. How do we go about organizing one. (Serious answers only wiseguys!) Quote Link to comment
+dhenninger Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 Don't know of any, but I would be glad to help out. After the APE cache next weekend, CITO event will be the one cache type I still need. Quote Link to comment
+MissJenn Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 It's not really hard, avroair. There are many ways to get started .... one of which you already did: start a thread here! Another way is to contact your local state park - or whatever type of park - and ask if they need some help. CITO Event tips from '03 event organizers Quote Link to comment
magellan315 Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 I have a request in with a park to hold one, waiting for formal permission, Quote Link to comment
+Packanack Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 http://www.cacheintrashout.org/ Has info on how to organize. Probably have to identify a location that really is in need, such as Garrett Mountain or Burnt Meadow section of Norvin Green. Quote Link to comment
+Team Rampant Lion Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 (edited) I have a proposal in with Kitattinny State Park (located in Andover, NJ) but have not heard back. I'll pop in and see what's up. I'm hoping a CITO might encourage the Park Super to allow a couple additional placements in this great park. I'll keep you posted. [edit for location] Edited March 3, 2005 by Team Rampant Lion Quote Link to comment
avroair Posted March 4, 2005 Author Share Posted March 4, 2005 http://www.cacheintrashout.org/ Has info on how to organize. Probably have to identify a location that really is in need, such as Garrett Mountain or Burnt Meadow section of Norvin Green. How about organiizing them Packanack? Quote Link to comment
+Team Perrito Blanco Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 (edited) I have a proposal in with Kitattinny State Park (located in Andover, NJ) but have not heard back. I'll pop in and see what's up. I'm hoping a CITO might encourage the Park Super to allow a couple additional placements in this great park. I'll keep you posted. That would be Kittatinny Valley State Park. We try to hike part of the Sussex Branch Trail on our way to KVSP. It's easy for the kids. I am working with my daughter's Girl Scout leader to have a geocaching outing with the troop. A CITO event would be a great experience for them in addition to the caching. We are very interested. Edited March 4, 2005 by Team Perrito Blanco Quote Link to comment
avroair Posted March 4, 2005 Author Share Posted March 4, 2005 I was thinking of Harriman or one of the New Jersey state parks, since my local park Superintendent refuses to return my phonecalls. Quote Link to comment
+Team Rampant Lion Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Someone suggested to me that May is kind of official CITO month, is that true? Quote Link to comment
+Quest1962 Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 According to the website, April 16th is the Official CITO day. Quote Link to comment
+junglehair Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 The Western New York group are planning to have a CITO event at Letchworth State Park. Our event page should be posted soon. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Norvin Green is a good idea. The Lake Sonoma and Burnt Meadow sections can accumulate trash, but the state does clean Lake Sonoma from time to time. I can contact the supervisor for the area and see if there are any areas that can use attention. Some other ideas: Kakeout Reservoir in Kinnelon Split Rock Reservoir (this really needs it. Would be a major endeavor) Garret Mtn (probably a lost cause) I can also contact one of the state rangers that I know and ask him for recommendations. Quote Link to comment
avroair Posted March 4, 2005 Author Share Posted March 4, 2005 (edited) Norvin Green is a good idea. The Lake Sonoma and Burnt Meadow sections can accumulate trash, but the state does clean Lake Sonoma from time to time. I can contact the supervisor for the area and see if there are any areas that can use attention. Some other ideas: Kakeout Reservoir in Kinnelon Split Rock Reservoir (this really needs it. Would be a major endeavor) Garret Mtn (probably a lost cause) I can also contact one of the state rangers that I know and ask him for recommendations. The national CITO day is April 16th, but that doesn't bar us from CITO events in more than one area on different dates. All the places you have stated Brian seem like good spots. Thanks for organizing. Edited March 4, 2005 by avroair Quote Link to comment
+peter0224 Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 The New York Capital Region Geocachers National CITO day event will be held at Schodack Island State park this year Here is the link to the Capital Region 2005 CITO Event Quote Link to comment
+MissJenn Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 The national CITO day is April 15th, but that doesn't bar us from CITO events in more than one area on different dates. All the places you have stated Brian seem like good spots. Thanks for organizing. Well, you're officially a day off, but it doesn't matter, really, since as you already pointed out: Events on other days would be JUST FINE, too! Quote Link to comment
avroair Posted March 4, 2005 Author Share Posted March 4, 2005 The national CITO day is April 15th, but that doesn't bar us from CITO events in more than one area on different dates. All the places you have stated Brian seem like good spots. Thanks for organizing. Well, you're officially a day off, but it doesn't matter, really, since as you already pointed out: Events on other days would be JUST FINE, too! Great way to forget about those taxes!!! The ANTI-TAX CITO Cleanup event!!! Quote Link to comment
+robert Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 In the approval queue: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?wp=GCN08H Where's mtn-man when you need him? Quote Link to comment
avroair Posted March 9, 2005 Author Share Posted March 9, 2005 Are there any planned for New York. A park manager at Harriman has expressed an interest in having one. What about Northern New Jersey? Norvin Green would look like a good spot. Quote Link to comment
+Packanack Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Because you asked last week, I sent an E Mail to Ringwood State Park, the manager of Norvin Green and asked if it would pose a problem. I of course did not receive a response. I also sent and E Mail to the NYNJTC inquiring if there was a trail that might benefit from this type of attention. For many years the High Mountain Area was just such and area, it no longer falls into the NYNJTC maint. area. I suggested Norvin Green because of the Burnt Meadow Road Area , it is easily accessable and seemingly attracts a fair number of roadway trash dumpers, there seems to be a fair amount of roadside trash that can be bagged and taken out. There are a couple of caches present in the area. Burnt Meadow Brook is a very pleasant walk and a nice hide. It was a happy moment for me when I found it, as it was kind of a validating point that I could actually find one of these things in the woods. On Sunday last past, I drove up to see about the conditions, I went into Burnt Meadow Road from the South end and there was a huge, I mean huge muddy lake in the middle of the road. I could not get past. But I do think that would be a good subject area, with perhaps a carry your own lunch hike up to the overlook of Lake Sonoma. But that is just me. I really don't think anyone would object to a group cleaning up along the road. Quote Link to comment
+jonboy Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Pine Meadow Brook and Lake Skannatatti have been traditional sites for litter pick up. Long Mt/Turkey Lake and Silvermine would be other good candidates. Any of the lean-tos could use cleanup as well, but require longer walks. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 For many years the High Mountain Area was just such and area, it no longer falls into the NYNJTC maint. area. It still is under the TC. Burnt Meadow Rd needs attention, but there is a lot of big stuff there that may be beyond our capabilities. The area around Lake Somoma would be easier to handle. Quote Link to comment
+Quest1962 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 I have not hiked much since I was a kid. Grew up near Watchung Mountains in Union County. I loved it, and would be very happy to attend any CITO event. Well, not in Lower North Podunk. But anywhere else. I am glad there are so many of you who know the area so well. I've been a "city" kid for way too long. Quote Link to comment
+Packanack Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 but there is a lot of big stuff there that may be beyond our That was exactly why I thought it would be a good place, to call attention to the stuff that has to be left behind, and you are right, it is a big mess. It clearly is beyond the scope of a trash clean up day, but it might get someone to take another look at it. Also the road area is easily traversed by all ability levels. Just thinking out loud. I stand corrected on High Mountain, I thought the TC gave up mapping and trail maint on High Mtn. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 How about the stone living room in Norvin Green? That spot collects litter. Quote Link to comment
+Packanack Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 (edited) where doesn't matter as long as it happens, could always do it again in summer and again in fall. Edited March 10, 2005 by Packanack Quote Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Sigh. The major component of trail maintenance seems to be garbage pick up. I especially hate Corona beer bottles. Those things are heavy! And I haven't gotten around to removing the beer ball, yet. But that's 20' off the trail. Hmmm.... Wonder if I could throw an event and get my trail cleaned up!!! I sould ask Wawayanda State Park. Quote Link to comment
+trail hound Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 check out .....GCN1D7....... Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 I ran this idea by the NYNJTC's North Jersey Trails Chair and he suggested Garrett Mountian. The yellow trail behind the museum in particular. Quote Link to comment
+macatac1961 Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 I've been looking into having one at a NYS DEC area that's in need of a CITO here on Long Island but it might be that even volunteers need workers comp? No wonder the place is such a mess. Quote Link to comment
avroair Posted March 10, 2005 Author Share Posted March 10, 2005 (edited) I ran this idea by the NYNJTC's North Jersey Trails Chair and he suggested Garrett Mountian. The yellow trail behind the museum in particular. Can we set something up for Garret mountain. It needs it badly. Edit: I am organizing one in Harriman and don't want to be seen as a CITO event hog (since I already own the title of Picnic Event hog! ) Edited March 10, 2005 by avroair Quote Link to comment
+Packanack Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 I will look into something for Garrett Mtn. but I can fairly well assure that it would not be in April as the date does not allow me enough time. So if anyone else wants to jump in, fine. I know I can not get it together for mid April--Sorry. Quote Link to comment
+junglehair Posted March 11, 2005 Share Posted March 11, 2005 To encourage individuals to host and/or attend CITO events in New York, NYGO plans to have a raffle. Everyone that attends a CITO event in New York during the month of April will be entered into the draw. One name will be selected from the entries, and that person will be awarded a 2005 Empire Park Pass. I will notify the event organizers to request a list of attendees. - Junglehair President, New York Geocaching Organization Quote Link to comment
avroair Posted March 11, 2005 Author Share Posted March 11, 2005 Sebago Beach CITO event - April 17th Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted March 11, 2005 Share Posted March 11, 2005 I will look into something for Garrett Mtn. but I can fairly well assure that it would not be in April as the date does not allow me enough time. So if anyone else wants to jump in, fine. I know I can not get it together for mid April--Sorry. They don't all have to be in April. We can spread them out and probably get better attendance that way because there won't be competing events. Quote Link to comment
+Packanack Posted March 11, 2005 Share Posted March 11, 2005 (edited) Any thoughts re: A CITO listing for a little friendly competition that would be restricted to our North Jersey area which would involve the cacher identifying and going to and logging in at the oldest caches, rarely visited or actually finding an abandoned cache. Would involve scrutinizing the list, looking for old ones, ones you haven't visited or don't own. Winner of the competition would be the one who finds to oldest, or the one that was last visited 2 or 3 years back. The object being to kind of self police our hobby and sport. A well respected voice in the community suggested that I seek some feedback , but does not think it will fly as a CITO as it does not have a gathering. AT lunch I went to one that was last visited 4 months back, so as a threshold you would have to beat that. This springs out of the forum talks re; caches abandoned. Suggestions ? Point system ? Edited March 11, 2005 by Packanack Quote Link to comment
avroair Posted March 11, 2005 Author Share Posted March 11, 2005 Any thoughts re: A CITO listing for a little friendly competition that would be restricted to our North Jersey area which would involve the cacher identifying and going to and logging in at the oldest caches, rarely visited or actually finding an abandoned cache. Would involve scrutinizing the list, looking for old ones, ones you haven't visited or don't own. Winner of the competition would be the one who finds to oldest, or the one that was last visited 2 or 3 years back. The object being to kind of self police our hobby and sport. A well respected voice in the community suggested that I seek some feedback , but does not think it will fly as a CITO as it does not have a gathering. AT lunch I went to one that was last visited 4 months back, so as a threshold you would have to beat that. This springs out of the forum talks re; caches abandoned. Suggestions ? Point system ? You could host it a breakfast event ... then have an optional group hike or teams go out to look for archived or abandoned caches after. Quote Link to comment
+Packanack Posted March 11, 2005 Share Posted March 11, 2005 (edited) Cache In Trash Out doesn't just happen once a year. It can happen on every cache hunt! Just bring a trash bag along with you on your walks in the woods and pick up the occasional piece of trash you see on the trail. I read the CITO again. It doesn't say that it has to be a place in time gathering. Maybe at the end of the line we could get to gether and offer the prize, which as it stands now is 1 Avroair Geo Coin. Points awarded, 10 points for each month of age, so a 6 month cache gets you 60 points, a 12 month cache gets 120 points, am I going anywhere with this or just spinning. Have a good weekend. Edited March 11, 2005 by Packanack Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted March 11, 2005 Share Posted March 11, 2005 Points awarded, 10 points for each month of age, so a 6 month cache gets you 60 points, a 12 month cache gets 120 points, am I going anywhere with this or just spinning. This is an ongoing competetion in some areas. People are ranked, etc... A good way to drum up some interest in the tougher, rarely visited caches. Quote Link to comment
avroair Posted March 11, 2005 Author Share Posted March 11, 2005 Cache In Trash Out doesn't just happen once a year. It can happen on every cache hunt! Just bring a trash bag along with you on your walks in the woods and pick up the occasional piece of trash you see on the trail. I read the CITO again. It doesn't say that it has to be a place in time gathering. Maybe at the end of the line we could get to gether and offer the prize, which as it stands now is 1 Avroair Geo Coin. Points awarded, 10 points for each month of age, so a 6 month cache gets you 60 points, a 12 month cache gets 120 points, am I going anywhere with this or just spinning. Have a good weekend. I read the CITO again. It doesn't say that it has to be a place in time gathering. Maybe at the end of the line we could get to gether and offer the prize, which as it stands now is 1 Avroair Geo Coin. What if we already got one of those? You coudl always buy me a beer and we'll call it even. Ask people what they would like as a prize, many people like to do long neglected caches as a challenge... archived ones, that might still be there are a harder pull. Quote Link to comment
+Packanack Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 I received a reply from the Trail Conference, they will check and see if there is a particular location that they would like to have get some attention. This does not alter or amend previous Garrett Mountain discussion. Quote Link to comment
+chstress53 Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 This event is a CITO in NJ http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...2e-45fda4597ec3 Quote Link to comment
magellan315 Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 This CITO will be held in Chester County, PA Quote Link to comment
+JMBella Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 LIGO's Edgewood Preserve CITO Quote Link to comment
+Team Bam Bam Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 From a fall visit to High Mountain: Quote Link to comment
avroair Posted March 17, 2005 Author Share Posted March 17, 2005 Pocono Geocachers' CITO on 191 april 16 LIGO's Edgewood Preserve CITO april 16 CITO - Dan's Rock april 16 Capital Region 2005 CITO Event april 16 Sebago Beach CITO april 17 SEPAG CITO at Black Rock Sanctuary april 17 Crossley CITO 2 june 4 Quote Link to comment
+nikcap Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 Any thoughts re: A CITO listing for a little friendly competition that would be restricted to our North Jersey area which would involve the cacher identifying and going to and logging in at the oldest caches, rarely visited or actually finding an abandoned cache. Would involve scrutinizing the list, looking for old ones, ones you haven't visited or don't own. Winner of the competition would be the one who finds to oldest, or the one that was last visited 2 or 3 years back. The object being to kind of self police our hobby and sport. A well respected voice in the community suggested that I seek some feedback , but does not think it will fly as a CITO as it does not have a gathering. AT lunch I went to one that was last visited 4 months back, so as a threshold you would have to beat that. This springs out of the forum talks re; caches abandoned. Suggestions ? Point system ? This is a great idea. I brought up something like this in the Geo-litter - Archived SBUX cachers thread. Let's put our heads together and see if we can get this ball rolling and get our playground in order. Quote Link to comment
+MissJenn Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 2005 Cito T-shirts Now Available Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 Any thoughts re: A CITO listing for a little friendly competition that would be restricted to our North Jersey area which would involve the cacher identifying and going to and logging in at the oldest caches, rarely visited or actually finding an abandoned cache. Would involve scrutinizing the list, looking for old ones, ones you haven't visited or don't own. Winner of the competition would be the one who finds to oldest, or the one that was last visited 2 or 3 years back. The object being to kind of self police our hobby and sport. A well respected voice in the community suggested that I seek some feedback , but does not think it will fly as a CITO as it does not have a gathering. AT lunch I went to one that was last visited 4 months back, so as a threshold you would have to beat that. This springs out of the forum talks re; caches abandoned. Suggestions ? Point system ? This is a great idea. I brought up something like this in the Geo-litter - Archived SBUX cachers thread. Let's put our heads together and see if we can get this ball rolling and get our playground in order. As I mentioned this is a competetion in some areas. It could be fun. Maybe you can get 10 points for every month a cache has gone unfound, or something along those lines. Quote Link to comment
+Packanack Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 Northern New Jersey- Which is above the Raritan. Object trying to find the oldest, mangiest or abandoned caches. Purpose mitigation of Geolitter. Forum readers know that there have been problems with a few abandoned caches. The object of this event (Competition) is to find the oldest cache or the one last visited in antiquity, go to it check it, log it and report its condition to the owner. If the cache needs to be archived, report it. If the cache is in need of replacement or removal report it. Log your results at the cache page and then report your totals and or results here. On July 1, 2005 , we announce the winner in our categories. Oldest Cache Visited. Longest time since Last Find. Finder of an actual abandoned cache. Inspiration comes being lead to a wonderful spot that was last cache logged in August 04, and the idea that pressure is building against public land being used for caching in any largely self regulating fashion. And it might just be fun. Rules--Gotta have em. Can't relog a cache,and can't be your own.10 points for each month since last find x's terrain difficulty gives you the cache score. Add 20 points for trash out. Add 20 points for picture of trash out. Add 20 points for picture of you in a hat other than a baseball cap. So if you have been there before, don't go back. This is listed as a CITO Event, so bring a plastic bag with you. I had submitted the above for approval, but in checking our cache pages I wasn't convinced it was a go, so I disabled it, then archived it, it did not get approved, it was out there for awhile 4 or 5 days waiting approval, I called it Everything Old is new again. Quote Link to comment
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