+Renegade Knight Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 There used to be a cache called Iron to the Island where you walked an iron beam to get to the cache. The beam is gone and the island stands alone now. If I put a cache on the island It would be more of a challenge now. The river here is swift, there is no boat ramp you would have to carry in a raft and solve the problem of not being able to paddle upstream. Maybe some people could paddle upstream. A rope with a grapple hook would work. The river is only 20' wide here. That's one way. A life jacket would be mandatory. The river would probably bounce you off a few rocks before it smoothed out again should you fall in. I bounced this idea off of my wife who didn't appreciate the challenge. She's all for caches in parks with a short hike and an easy find. Back to the drawing board. Then I realized that I could use gorilla glue and put metal plates on a Decon paint it camo colors and also glow in the dark, then leave it in the open on the island. Now you can use a fishing pole with a magnet on the end to cast the 30' and try to snag the cache. Once you catch the cache you just toss it back on the island when it's done. Or you can get that raft and grappling hook. My wife still wasn't impressed. The more I thought about it though, the more I like the idea to keep our local power cachers busy for a day or two. The caches ultimate fate is that sooner or later someone will miss the return toss. But it will be marked geocache and a waypoint number put in it so they will know what they found. Good? Bad? Ugly? Quote Link to comment
+Team GPSaxophone Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 No cache is too difficult, as long as it's rated properly. Quote Link to comment
+Skyman Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 Like Sax said rate it high and go for it. I love the Idea about the fishing Pole and Magent. Quote Link to comment
dead_white_man Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 No cache is too difficult, as long as it's rated properly. I fully agree. Just PLEASE make sure you rate it appropriately. Quote Link to comment
+DiskDevil Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 Sounds good, but not evil enough. I am biased though... Quote Link to comment
+Marky Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 Sounds great! (But I'm glad I don't live anywhere near it! ) --Marky Quote Link to comment
+Team Perks Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 Like Marky said--I'd curse your name if I lived near you, but since I don't--I think it's an awesome idea! Quote Link to comment
+Spzzmoose Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 I likey evil! I say go for it! Quote Link to comment
+mrking Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 (edited) There used to be a cache called Iron to the Island where you walked an iron beam to get to the cache. The beam is gone and the island stands alone now. If I put a cache on the island It would be more of a challenge now. The river here is swift, there is no boat ramp you would have to carry in a raft and solve the problem of not being able to paddle upstream. Maybe some people could paddle upstream. A rope with a grapple hook would work. The river is only 20' wide here. That's one way. A life jacket would be mandatory. The river would probably bounce you off a few rocks before it smoothed out again should you fall in. I bounced this idea off of my wife who didn't appreciate the challenge. She's all for caches in parks with a short hike and an easy find. Back to the drawing board. Then I realized that I could use gorilla glue and put metal plates on a Decon paint it camo colors and also glow in the dark, then leave it in the open on the island. Now you can use a fishing pole with a magnet on the end to cast the 30' and try to snag the cache. Once you catch the cache you just toss it back on the island when it's done. Or you can get that raft and grappling hook. My wife still wasn't impressed. The more I thought about it though, the more I like the idea to keep our local power cachers busy for a day or two. The caches ultimate fate is that sooner or later someone will miss the return toss. But it will be marked geocache and a waypoint number put in it so they will know what they found. Good? Bad? Ugly? Sending the cache over by casting it with a fishing rod - you are dreaming with the best of them. Try this yourself before you put it into action. Tell me how you expect them to remove the magnet after casting it over? If the river is swift are you ok with living with the guilt if some eager cacher drowns while trying to get your cache? I am all for challenging caches, however there are always good solutions to them as well. Sounds like your's is a crap shoot at best, since you are not even sure how to do it. IMO Edited February 19, 2005 by mrking Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted February 19, 2005 Author Share Posted February 19, 2005 (edited) Your retrieve the cache with a fishing pole. You toss it back. The return toss is what gives the cache it's limited life span. Not being the person who looses the cache is part of the challenge. Safety is always up to the seeker. I'd warn about the river here, suggest the fishing pole solution and then it would be up to the seeker. mrking: there is a crapshoot aspect. I'm not sure how good I am with a pole it would take more than a few tries to get the magnet to snag the cache. Edited February 19, 2005 by Renegade Knight Quote Link to comment
+mrking Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 (edited) Your retrieve the cache with a fishing pole. You toss it back. The return toss is what gives the cache it's limited life span. Not being the person who looses the cache is part of the challenge. Safety is always up to the seeker. I'd warn about the river here, suggest the fishing pole solution and then it would be up to the seeker. mrking: there is a crapshoot aspect. I'm not sure how good I am with a pole it would take more than a few tries to get the magnet to snag the cache. Then I would say go for! Especially since there is the extra responsibility of not losing the cache. Imagine if you had to log that? hehehe Edited February 19, 2005 by mrking Quote Link to comment
+BigHank Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 I like the idea. Is the island flat enough in the area the cache will be in so that missing the cache with the first or subsequent casts will not get the fishing line tangled in underbrush, trees, rocks, etc., and either be unretrievable or break when being reeled back in for another try? How heavy of a magnet will be needed? Will you have a fishing pole (the telescoping kind, perhaps?) available? Maybe you could use finding the fishing pole as the first stage of a multi? That would be evil, having the cache on the island in full view, and the pole hidden well as the first stage. Just some thoughts. Hank Quote Link to comment
+Konnarock Kid & Marge Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 Renegade Knight, you are the greatest. Go for it and keep up the good work. Before posting the new cache you might want to let your wife try it out. After she does, just think of all of that additional free time you will have. Take care. Quote Link to comment
+cache_test_dummies Posted May 7, 2005 Share Posted May 7, 2005 RK - I liked this idea when you first brought it up. Any progress? Quote Link to comment
+Team Cotati Posted May 7, 2005 Share Posted May 7, 2005 "Good? Bad? Ugly?"...No, it is precious. Let us know how it works out. Quote Link to comment
The Junkyard Dogs Posted May 7, 2005 Share Posted May 7, 2005 I thnk it sounds great, as log as you post the needed equipment and difficulty rating only people up for the challenge will go. And there are some crazy geocachers out there who would love it! let us know how it goes. Quote Link to comment
+Beta Test Posted May 7, 2005 Share Posted May 7, 2005 With the raft idea, a person could pole across the river. Or paddle in upstream, and get on shore again downstream? Quote Link to comment
+evergreenhiker! Posted May 7, 2005 Share Posted May 7, 2005 Great idea! Love the fishing aspect of it. Unique! Go for it! Quote Link to comment
+Team GPSaxophone Posted May 7, 2005 Share Posted May 7, 2005 No cache is too difficult, as long as it's rated properly. I fully agree. Just PLEASE make sure you rate it appropriately. Properly rated Quote Link to comment
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