mike88 Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 I'm thinking of placing a multi/puzzle cache which gives you the clues to a combination padlocked cache at the end. Hopefully a lot of the stages will be quite interesting not just tupperware in a bush. Would many cachers be put off at all if there were no trades in any of the caches? Space could be a bit limited so would you put effort in just to sign the book and log the cache? Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 If they knew beforehand not to bother to bring trade items (having it posted on the cache page), I think most wouldn't mind. Quote Link to comment
+LthrWrk Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 I do like to trade. not very often though do I take something. I do leave my sig item as often as possible. Doing a puzzle/multi that in the end you open a padlock to find nothing.. well I wouldnt bother to do the cache. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 Multis generally have trade items in only the final stage, so I wouldn't worry about the other stages if I was you. Anyway, I rarely trade, but I make sure my caches are well stocked because there are a lot of families with kids who geocache and kids love to find stuff to trade. Also newbies often expect to find something interesting. But if you mention that its a log only cache on the page, then you're fine. That way families won't be disappointed to open it up and find only a pencil and logbook. Quote Link to comment
+Seay me Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 (edited) The stages would have no trade items or the final cache would have no trade items. To me, for a multi, the final cache should be something special to warrant the complexity of the hide (having to accomplish multiple stages or tasks). Just my opinion, but the end result of a multi should be something cool, either some great scenery or nice trade items, etc.... It's not all about the trade, but I think many would want to feel like they had a better 'payoff' than just signing the book. On that note there are those who just like the feeling of accomplishment. As far as the stages go, makes no difference to me. If they are just 'stepping stones' to get info for the final do those how you want. However you decide to do it is cool though, it's your cache, make it how you want. If you hide it, they will come. Others opinions may, and probably will differ. Edited February 10, 2005 by Seay me Quote Link to comment
+AtoZ Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 IF what you mean is multiple caches, each with it's own cache page then it can be listed there is no trade. If it is a single cache with multiple stages then the only really container to trade at is the final cache container. Is this as clear as mud???? I would suggest you also chain the final cache with the lock to some object as I have done simular to what your doing but my container has been stolen twice I a hoping by people find it and wondering what is in it so they just take it home to open the box. cheers Quote Link to comment
+Enspyer Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 I very rarely trade, and probably wouldn't notice the absence of trade items at all. My 'earlier geocaching self' who really enjoyed trading would have liked to see trading in the final stage. Limiting the trading to the final stage might be a way to keep the cache's content higher quality (less dilution). Quote Link to comment
+Thot Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 (edited) Would many cachers be put off at all if there were no trades in any of the caches? Space could be a bit limited so would you put effort in just to sign the book and log the cache? You say it's a problem of space, so is the main cache a micro? Micros don't normally have trade items. I've done multis to micros. Normally the early stages of a multi don't contain trade items, only the clues that lead on toward the main cache. If the main is a traditional cache it would normally have trade items, but I don't trade so it wouldn't mean anything to me if it didn't. As others have said, you can explain in the cache description that it's a log only cache and has no trade items. It may cause a few people to pass on it, but no one should be upset since you explained the situation. It isn’t clear to me why a person who hunts micro would pass on a traditional cache because there were no trade items, but people’s behavior frequently baffles me. edit typo Edited February 10, 2005 by Thot Quote Link to comment
+Divine Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 I trade very rarely, and wouldn't mind if I found only a logbook and a pen(cil) at the final stage. Like already stated, you may still want to include something in the final stage container for those who like to trade. Quote Link to comment
Dale_Lynn Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 I like trades if there is something in cache that appeals to me..... Just to find point "X/Y" seems kind of dull.......... Dale Quote Link to comment
+Nurse Dave Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 Unless it's a really interesting location, I don't understand people that make you go through steps or puzzles to just find another film can. But yes, just at the last location. Quote Link to comment
+AuntieWeasel Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 I rarely trade, either. But I'd be disappointed somehow if there were nothing at the very end. Even a multi with a micro on the end I shuffle to the back of my To Do list. It doesn't make a lot of sense, but there you go. You don't need to put "tupperware" at the earlier stages, though. Just something big enough to hold/write on the next coords. Quote Link to comment
+JohnnyCacheAz Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 I think the fun of the multi are the steps involved in finding the thing...The best multi's that I can remember are ones with a THEME or a themed puzzle....Then I think stocking the final cache with something that repersents the THEME.is neat.....Example: Phantom Menace Cache ihere in Mesa AZ Quote Link to comment
+Enspyer Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 Another comment- I have found some urban multis that only had micros. I found that suitable though because they were in historic districts/places with good views. If you are thinking along those lines I would encourage you. One, though, that was limited to things like shoved in a bush or lamppost type micros was a bit boring. Quote Link to comment
+winkydink Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 I'm doing this as a way to spend some quality time with my 5-yr old son. To him, it's all about the "treasure", so to answer the question, yes, trading is important to me. Quote Link to comment
+Ed & Julie Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 I rarely trade items at traditional caches. However, a multicache involves some work, and by working, anticipation builds about finind the final stage. I would gladly trade at the end of a milti-stage cache. I would be very let down if the final stage was a micro or non-trading container. If I knew ahead of time that the cache was a non-trading multi, you had better justify the reason for it or it's scratched off my list. Too much fork for aparently too little reward. Ed ps: I have hiden 1 multi cache, with many micro stages leading to a big cache that currently holds 22 trade items. Quote Link to comment
+kc8bdr Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 I very seldom ever trade, but I do enjoy seeing what is in a “trading” cache. So finding items for trade and/or an interesting area would be a big plus. But the satisfaction of completing the cache regardless of what is at the end would be enough for me to give it a go. Jim Kc8bdr Quote Link to comment
Madness522 Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 I have rarely traded. I enjoy the hunt much more than trading a pocket full of trinkets. I would rather do a multi than a single. Come on now how hard can one really make a single? I also enjoy the games. There is a series of them in my home area. I got one down and the rest to go. Check out zip 28027 for them if you're interested. Quote Link to comment
+danford1 Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 To me, the find and solving the puzzle would be worth it as long as I knew that ahead of time. I have enough "stuff" now, so signing a log book is fine by me. Danford1 Quote Link to comment
+JohnnyVegas Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 Julie and I have always traded items, in the past few months we have strated collecting sig items and putting the into a large binder. Quote Link to comment
+Team Wampus Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 For me, I enjoy the hunt and appreciate a good puzzle or mystery or history lesson or even a nice view. I can be perfectly happy with micros if they are challenging and well done.. But I take my 8 and 5 year old kids whenever possible, and they want that treasure box at the end! Quote Link to comment
+Robespierre Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 Multis generally have trade items in only the final stage, so I wouldn't worry about the other stages if I was you. Anyway, I rarely trade, but I make sure my caches are well stocked because there are a lot of families with kids who geocache and kids love to find stuff to trade. Also newbies often expect to find something interesting. But if you mention that its a log only cache on the page, then you're fine. That way families won't be disappointed to open it up and find only a pencil and logbook. That's a great answer (only, for me - after 16 months/122 caches-, change it to "I still like to trade." Also, I said this so many times - the harder the cache, the fewer the finders, so be prepared for that. Personally, I avoid multis that are over 3 stages, and I like trade items at the end (though I trade for the worthless items, usually). Quote Link to comment
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