+New England n00b Posted September 24, 2003 Share Posted September 24, 2003 In those instances where you do not find a cache, is it alright to email the owner, in addition to leaving a log? I did this today and I'm wondering if it was the right thing to do. My email described what I had done (where I had looked), and I didn't want to put that in a publicly-viewable log. Thanks for the guidance... <===That Guy --------------------- Don't hurt me. I'm new here. Quote Link to comment
+Stunod Posted September 24, 2003 Share Posted September 24, 2003 That is a great way to handle it. Without giving away details to other cachers, you have given the hider enough info to help him/her decide if there is a problem. "Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand." - Homer Simpson Eamus Catuli AC145895 Quote Link to comment
+Dave_W6DPS Posted September 24, 2003 Share Posted September 24, 2003 Sounds like a great idea to me! I prefer when cachers let me know if they have trouble finding one of my caches, and how they went about trying. Makes it more clear if I need to go check the cache, or maybe provide a more detailed hint. I have a couple of moderately challenging caches, and most of the DNF logs are people who simply give up easy or didn't get what I was trying to do (possibly because it wasn't explained clearly in the beginning). The more info I get, the better I can, hopefully, make my cache pages. You did the right thing! Welcome! Dave_W6DPS My two cents worth, refunds available on request. (US funds only) Quote Link to comment
+robert Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 Definitely a good idea. Sometimes you can get an extra clue on that tough-to-find cache. ~robert www.CacheGear.com Quote Link to comment
+New England n00b Posted September 25, 2003 Author Share Posted September 25, 2003 Heh, I just looked at the cache in question again and someone else came after me and found it. So now I'm on a mission. I *will* find that cache, or it'll kill me. Thanks for the replies, I appreciate the feedback. --------------------- Don't hurt me. I'm new here. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 It's a very good idea to do it that way. Too many people put specifics in their logs. E-mails are also a good way to handle it if you have concerns about the legality, safety, or environmental impact of the cache. If the cache is in bad shape however, it's good to mention that in the log so future visitors are prepared to fix it up if they are so inclined. "You can't make a man by standing a sheep on his hind legs. But by standing a flock of sheep in that position, you can make a crowd of men" - Max Beerbohm Quote Link to comment
+robert Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 quote:Originally posted by New England n00b:Heh, I just looked at the cache in question again and someone else came after me and found it. So now I'm on a mission. I *will* find that cache, or it'll kill me. That's the most likely thing to happen. make sure to tell us when you've found it! ~robert www.CacheGear.com Quote Link to comment
+Touchstone Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 I've contacted cache owners on two occassions: once to confirm the solution to a puzzle cache that was in a poison oak dense area (seems fair to me to ask ), and the other was also a puzzle cache, that turned up missing. Both exchanges were very courteous and helpful. On another occassion, I posted two NF on one multi that I couldn't find even on a repeat visit, and the cache owner contacted me to confirm that I was looking in the correct place. All in all, my experience with cachers has been very positive. Great bunch of people! Oh yeah. It really pulls my chain when someone finds a cache after I post a NF. Even worse when the person coming after has about two finds and says, "easy find". I'd go back and hunt that sucka down like a dog! Quote Link to comment
enfanta Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 quote: Heh, I just looked at the cache in question again and someone else came after me and found it. So now I'm on a mission. I *will* find that cache, or it'll kill me. One thing I've discovered: the second I believe the cache isn't there, I may as well write my NF log. As long as you believe it's there you WILL find it. Good luck! Ode to a Pigeon: Roses are Red, Violets are Blue, You Lookin' at Me? YOU LOOKIN' AT ME?! (b. katt, 7/14/03) Quote Link to comment
+WalruZ Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 What I usually do when I can't find a cache is to put a 'watch' on it. Either there will be more DNFs or more likely someone will find it and then rehide it slightly differently. Most of my 'second try' finds have come that way. Quote Link to comment
Jr Viper Team Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 We went to a cache and didn't find it. After I logged it on geocache.com as a "not found" the cache owner contacted me. He asked for details where I looked. When I gave very specific details on where I searched he said "That's it!". He archived the cache so it could be relocated to a less publicly probed location. It's a good idea to keep spoilers off the log page. Jr Viper Team Quote Link to comment
+New England n00b Posted September 26, 2003 Author Share Posted September 26, 2003 Thanks for the tip, BrianSnat, that is a good point. Enfanta, what happened to the pankcake?!?! Jr Viper Team - that is a good idea too. In the future I'll have to do that to my DNF's. --------------------- Don't hurt me. I'm new here. Quote Link to comment
+flask Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 i enjoy detailed notes from cachers describing where they looked, and often have lovely conversations with them about the cache and things in general. there's a lot of the story that a cache owner might like to hear, but should not be put in the online log. conversely, when there's a lot to the story, i email the cache owner to let them know. mostly they like to hear it. -====)) -)))))))))))) presta schrader Quote Link to comment
+New England n00b Posted September 27, 2003 Author Share Posted September 27, 2003 Well, I can finally get back onto the forums so... I found it! *whew* It was easy, once I saw it, but man, my eyes are still popped out of my head from looking... It was a great, little cache, and there was a lot of good stuff in it. See GCG6MR for the cache site. This place is a great visit, by the way. Bring a camera is you go... --------------------- Don't hurt me. I'm new here. Quote Link to comment
+robert Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 NICE JOB!!! Full speed ahead, cap'n! ~robert www.CacheGear.com Quote Link to comment
enfanta Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 what pancake?? Ode to a Pigeon: Roses are Red, Violets are Blue, You Lookin' at Me? YOU LOOKIN' AT ME?! (b. katt, 7/14/03) Quote Link to comment
+The Leprechauns Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 Congrats New England n00b! Ain't that the greatest feeling, to clear up a "not found?" Actually, having one early on will make you a better geocacher. I bet you learned a lot about searching thoroughly, not making any assumptions about the hiding spot, reapproaching a problem from a fresh angle, thinking like a hider, and all the other tricks that are learned through experience. My fourth hunt was a not-found, three hours over three trips. The cache turned out to be missing. Best training I could've had. x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x Next time, instead of getting married, I think I'll just find a woman I don't like and buy her a house. Quote Link to comment
opie744 Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 Almost everyone wants you to find thier cache' or wants to be notified if you think it might be MIA. BUT, there are a small few sore pickles that won't answer you at all or are short with you when you ask questions or try to confirm. Thank goodness the majority are right there to help. I guess if you don't recieve an answer, that tells you what kind of owner you are dealing with. Quote Link to comment
+New England n00b Posted October 1, 2003 Author Share Posted October 1, 2003 opie744 - the owner of the cache was great. I posted this question immediately after just to make sure I was doing the right thing. The Leprechauns - Wow, that would have driven me insane... enfanta - THIS pancake: --------------------- Don't hurt me. I'm new here. Quote Link to comment
opie744 Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 Your right, that is great, they are ones that make this game FUN! Quote Link to comment
enfanta Posted October 7, 2003 Share Posted October 7, 2003 Oh, that's so cool!! You put a pancake on her head! Did you photoshop that?? Wearer of duplicative protective headgear. Quote Link to comment
+New England n00b Posted October 7, 2003 Author Share Posted October 7, 2003 Me? Photoshop? I wish... I found it somewhere online - I thought it was the original... That silly internet, you just never know! I was gonna ask if you photoshopped the rabbit to put a GPS on it...? Hehehehehe --------------------- Don't hurt me. I'm new here. Quote Link to comment
enfanta Posted October 7, 2003 Share Posted October 7, 2003 Me?? Photoshop?? I wish. rgbisme and True Indigo, however... Wearer of duplicative protective headgear. Quote Link to comment
+ed629 Posted October 7, 2003 Share Posted October 7, 2003 I usually start a forest fire and run like hell. JK, it's perfectly ok to email the owner of the cache, usually if it's actually there, they can help you or give you better clues. Quote Link to comment
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