+woggs1 Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Ammo can full of explosives found 20 feet off of a trail http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c...BAG0DAECMA1.DTL Quote Link to comment
+sept1c_tank Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Very scary! Quote Link to comment
+Team GPSaxophone Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Yet another reason they don't allow "tripwire" caches Quote Link to comment
+Anonymous' Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Yet another reason they don't allow "tripwire" caches Quote Link to comment
Jeremy Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Yes. And old TNT is very scary: Dynamite (also called TNT) is nitroglycerin stabilized in charcoal or another absorbent. Dynamite that goes through changes of temperature over a fairly long period of time "sweats" pure nitroglycerine crystals. Dynamite in this state appears shiny, not waxy as is normal. Quote Link to comment
+bigredmed Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Yes. And old TNT is very scary: Dynamite (also called TNT) is nitroglycerin stabilized in charcoal or another absorbent. Dynamite that goes through changes of temperature over a fairly long period of time "sweats" pure nitroglycerine crystals. Dynamite in this state appears shiny, not waxy as is normal. If you are close enough to see crystals on the surface, you are WAY TOO CLOSE! Disturbing. Glad no one was hurt. Quote Link to comment
+Doc-Dean Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Yikes!!! Left McToy, took cool crystalized travel bug! Boom! Quote Link to comment
+wimseyguy Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 My guess is that it probably goes back to the radical times we had in the '70s," said Weiss, who has lived in his house since 1976 and remembers how hippies and radicals used to commune around the nearby Panoramic Highway. "It's an isolated, woodsy area. Maybe somebody buried it with the intent to use it later." Oh sure blame it on the hippies! He was probably a "living under the glitter dome, wipin his upper lip wearin' a leisure suit" in his 70's. It is OK to personally attack someone who isn't a forum participant, right? Quote Link to comment
+AMMOMAN Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 I have been in the munitions career field for almost 12 years. I have had the misfortune of opening up a container of this stuff when it was crystalized. You realize very quickly that this is a bad place to be Just the odor is enough to make you very ill. If it touches bare skin your heart begins to race and instant headache. Good thing the finder left it alone. There was endless list of bad outcomes.. Quote Link to comment
+SamLowrey Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 I was thinking dynamite and TNT were two different things...... Quote Link to comment
+YuccaPatrol Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 I remember a place in Wyoming where an old timer found an equally old crate of dynamite. They found his thumb! Quote Link to comment
+Doc-Dean Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 I have been in the munitions career field for almost 12 years. I have had the misfortune of opening up a container of this stuff when it was crystalized. You realize very quickly that this is a bad place to be Just the odor is enough to make you very ill. If it touches bare skin your heart begins to race and instant headache. However if you were having chest pains, they would have gone away within seconds... But those nitro headaches are something!! Quote Link to comment
+Blue Bomb Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 It seems people are mixing up dynamite (nitroglycerin mixed with an absorbent) and trinitrotoluene (TNT). Besides the fact they are both explosives, they are completely diferent beasts. Quote Link to comment
ThePup Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 " a hiker found a World War II-era bazooka shell and brought it into a ranger station." What sort of fool picks the thing up and takes it to a ranger station?! Quote Link to comment
davwil Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 A few years ago at a town down the road from the the local Army base, they (not sure if the squad was from the base or the RCMP) removed a live 105mm round from someones home. They had painted it blue and had been using it as a door-stop for years. Anyone in the Army knows the rules about removing "brass" or munitions from base, but still civilians sometimes don't see the dangers. That stuff can "cook-off" on it's own! Be careful when finding anything that looks old and it just reinforces the idea that we should label any game pieces we leave in the woods for our own sake as well as everyone else's. Quote Link to comment
+Logscaler and Red Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Way back when, I was working a cat side with my dad in the McKenzie River drainage when we found an old yarder sled with a powder shack sitting on it. This funny yellow stuff was leaking out the side of the flooring. Looking inside, there where a several dozen old powder boxes stacked inside. Seeing as we where making slash piles, we just heaped a bunch of brush alongside it and lit a fire and watched all the pretty colors. It seems as there where a lot of those old sheds scattered through out the hills. Some empty, some not. Logscaler. Quote Link to comment
+Beta Test Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 I was thinking dynamite and TNT were two different things...... They are. I am not sure of the actual chemical name for dynamite, but TNT stands for TriNitroTolomine and it won't sweat the nitro like dynamite will. Quote Link to comment
+AMMOMAN Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 They had painted it blue and had been using it as a door-stop for years. Different munitions are color coded for diffrent reasons. Blue is normally inert or empty. However, anyone with a can of paint can change the colors. If you are not fimiliar with the items you find get a waypoint and notify the police. Be sure not to be standing close by when you try using a cell phone or radio. They can cause things to go BOOM! best advice I can give is get away.... Far far away. Quote Link to comment
+JohnnyVegas Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 This was in my neck of the woods, as a mater of fact I was doing maintance on a cache of mile a few miles away when I heard some of the police traffic on my scanner, then the bomb squad truck passed me a few minutes later. BTW Nitroglycerin and TNT (Trinitroluene)are not the same thing and comercial Dynomite and Military Dynomite are not the same TNT less sensitive to than Nitroglycerin Nitroglycerin will detonate by droping a 2 kilogram weight from 10-12 centimeters (4-5 inches) TNT will detonate by droping a 2 kilogram weight from 14 inches Quote Link to comment
+JohnnyVegas Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 My guess is that it probably goes back to the radical times we had in the '70s," said Weiss, who has lived in his house since 1976 and remembers how hippies and radicals used to commune around the nearby Panoramic Highway. "It's an isolated, woodsy area. Maybe somebody buried it with the intent to use it later." Oh sure blame it on the hippies! He was probably a "living under the glitter dome, wipin his upper lip wearin' a leisure suit" in his 70's. It is OK to personally attack someone who isn't a forum participant, right? The hippies were long gone by 1976, I have lived in the area for 50 years. Quote Link to comment
+Byron & Anne Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 My guess is that it probably goes back to the radical times we had in the '70s," said Weiss, who has lived in his house since 1976 and remembers how hippies and radicals used to commune around the nearby Panoramic Highway. "It's an isolated, woodsy area. Maybe somebody buried it with the intent to use it later." Oh sure blame it on the hippies! He was probably a "living under the glitter dome, wipin his upper lip wearin' a leisure suit" in his 70's. It is OK to personally attack someone who isn't a forum participant, right? The hippies were long gone by 1976, I have lived in the area for 50 years. The hippies just kind of melted into the economy, but be careful, we're still here watching. Quote Link to comment
+PC Painter Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Yikes....took TB, left arm and a leg. Quote Link to comment
+MickEMT Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Yes. And old TNT is very scary: Dynamite (also called TNT) is nitroglycerin stabilized in charcoal or another absorbent. Dynamite that goes through changes of temperature over a fairly long period of time "sweats" pure nitroglycerine crystals. Dynamite in this state appears shiny, not waxy as is normal. You arent kidding, when I was still a paramedic, we had a call where someone had blown off most of her hand. Apparently she thought it was a candle. Her words when we came in " I lit a candle & it blew up!" After the usual "WHAT" questions, my partner and I started bandaguing her up and packing the fingers we found for transport. One of the police officers asked her if hse had any more of theese "candles". She points into the next room, he goes in, comes out about 1 minute later, white as a sheet and tells us "I don't care what youre doing or if she's bleeding to death, theres a box with about 10 sticks of sweaty dynamite in there and everyone needs to leave NOW". Needless to say, we grabbed the patient and left as fast as we could. The hospital did not manage to save any of the fingers, and let us know that she was definately a conissour of several drugs. Quote Link to comment
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