+Team Ullium Posted October 27, 2004 Posted October 27, 2004 I have a Palm M505 and I also have Fugawi on my computer...but try as I may I have yet to successfully download a map from my computer onto the Palm!? I've downloaded the Fugawi progam bit that the Palm needs and I have been careful not to attempt to download too big a map file as my SD card is just 64MB (mark you the Palm tells me it is only 60.5 MB of which 59.0 MB is free). Also, I use GSAK and Cachemate to download the cache details and that works great...it's just this map procedure that has me stumped! Has anyone else had this problem ... and if so ... how did they overcome it?? Ullium. Quote
+wildlifewriter Posted October 27, 2004 Posted October 27, 2004 I have a Palm M505 and I also have Fugawi on my computer...but try as I may I have yet to successfully download a map from my computer onto the Palm!? The obvious option - "Download to GPS" does not work with a Palm device. One of the many bonkers 'features' in Fugawi is that the option to install a map to a PDA is hidden. No kidding - it really is! To make the menu option appear, you first have to highlight a section of the map - or all of it - on your PC screen. At that point (and not before) you can then go: Menu "Edit" > "Export selection to PDA". This will bring up a dialog which shows the map (and any others already chosen) in a queue for the next hotsync. Close all Fugawi and do a hotsync to the Palm. (If the map segment is any appreciable size, you can go and have your dinner at this point.) It seems that the map cannot be loaded directly to a memory card - it loads into main memory and then can be "moved" from within Fugawi on the Palm. (Note: All of this applies to Fugawi Mapping V3. Menu text may vary in other versions, but the principle should be valid.) Hth Quote
+Team Ullium Posted October 27, 2004 Author Posted October 27, 2004 Thanks Wildlifewriter like yourself I managed to stumble across the recognised way to download a portion of map....however I thought you might be on to something there when you said to shut down Fugawi before performing the HotSync....so I gave it a go....but unfortunately no luck....it still stubornly refuses to download a map! And as I said I have plenty of memory on my SD card! The only other thing that I can think of was that I had trouble getting the Mathslib.prc to download !? What I would like to do is delete everything and start again...but although I can certainly reformat the SD card....I can't seem to be able to delete anything from the Palm memory itself....so other than just overwriting everything I seem to be at an impasse with this map loading facitlity Ullium. Quote
+Learned Gerbil Posted October 27, 2004 Posted October 27, 2004 I am very confused as to what you are trying to do. My experience is with Fugawi UK which ois, as far as i can tell, about the same as Fugawi 3. There is no way you can transfer maps to a memory card. What you do is select areas of maps, then click on the menu item that exports to the PDA. On the next hotsync, the maps will move to the RAM in the palm. Once in memory you can then transfer maps to the memory card for later access. 64Mb is a huge amount for maps, but at any time only enough to go in the free RAM on the PDA can be transfered at any time. Quote
+wildlifewriter Posted October 27, 2004 Posted October 27, 2004 The only other thing that I can think of was that I had trouble getting the Mathslib.prc to download !? No, that's not it. I even deleted Mathlib on my iQue, then synched a new map segment - and it still worked. It could be lack of main memory on the Palm. I dunno what happens if you try to load a map that's too large - never tried it. Why can't you delete anything from the Palm memory? Does deleting produce any error message? Quote
+Team Ullium Posted October 27, 2004 Author Posted October 27, 2004 Firstly let me say that a reformat of my SD and a re-install of my Fugawi Palm files has done the trick Now I am doing nothing different to what I was doing before but I can now download my map selections and in glorious colour no less (well colour .. I don't know so much about glorious LOL). Ah Learned Gerbil....I fully realise one can only view what has been transferred to the operating system's ram at any one point in time....it's exactly the same with computers....so you get no argument from me there All I was trying to do was download a portion of the UK map to the Palm...and that I have now managed to accomplish....but thanks for the assistance Ullium. Quote
+wildlifewriter Posted October 27, 2004 Posted October 27, 2004 All's well that ends well. These adventures come included with any Fugawi product, at no extra cost... One thing I've managed to do, recently:- an aerial photograph of my local area, ortho-rectified on PaintShop, and calibrated with Fugawi, then loaded into the iQue and used instead of a map with my GPS position (and a few caches) displayed on it. Now that IS cool.... Quote
+Team Ullium Posted October 27, 2004 Author Posted October 27, 2004 One thing I've managed to do, recently:- an aerial photograph of my local area, ortho-rectified on PaintShop, and calibrated with Fugawi, then loaded into the iQue and used instead of a map with my GPS position (and a few caches) displayed on it. Hahahaha.....if I could have managed all that Wildlifewriter I would consider myself 'arrived' in handheld knowledge terms .... at the moment I haven't even started on the journey My next problem is getting the blighter to talk to my mobile and my GPSr (hint..hint ) Ullium. Quote
+Kitty Hawk Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 This does sound cool - I get the gist of what you have done, but what is Ortho-rectified? Quote
+Pharisee Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 This does sound cool - I get the gist of what you have done, but what is Ortho-rectified? Not exactly sure but I think it means that someone has drawn straight lines across your bum Quote
+wildlifewriter Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 This does sound cool - I get the gist of what you have done, but what is Ortho-rectified? It would take too long to explain. You'll know when it happens to you.... Quote
+Kitty Hawk Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 (edited) Just looked up Ortho on Dictionary.com - I see it means Vertical Line. Not exactly sure but I think it means that someone has drawn straight lines across your bum . You'll know when it happens to you.... Edited October 28, 2004 by Kitty Hawk Quote
+Team Ullium Posted October 28, 2004 Author Posted October 28, 2004 The only thing I know what has happened to me.... is I've lost my photo application from the Palm and although I thought it would be no problem to re-install....I can't see a download anywhere....this means I can't now download a copy of cache photographs now !! Any suggestions anybody?? Ullium. Quote
+wildlifewriter Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 I get the gist of what you have done, but what is Ortho-rectified? Right. Sensible answer now, in case anyone's interested.... Unless I want to pay out a small fortune, it's almost certain any sky image I get hold of, won't have been taken with the vehicle (satellite, aircraft, balloon, whatever) directly above the area I'm interested in. This means that the part of the image I want to use will be subject to a form of visual perspective effect. To correct this, we can use digital manipulation to apply a distortion to make it look as if the picture was taken from directly above. Having done that, further tweaking has to be applied (mainly at the edges of the view) to make it look right. This process is a form of "ortho-rectification". Highly-skewed images are difficult to correct - in fact, past an angle of about 15º, things start getting very ugly very fast. Quote
+Lance Ambu Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 in fact, past an angle of about 15º, things start getting very ugly very fast. That confirms it I was born on a slope Quote
+Team Ullium Posted October 28, 2004 Author Posted October 28, 2004 Learned Gerbil: I think it was called (funnily enough) 'Photo..something' And I think there might have been a couple of applications ... one to store your images in (not maps) and what the other one did I haven't a clue because up until yesterday I could even download maps nevertheless pictures...so I never got to use either of them! When I wiped everything and installed them again....these applications were gone....but I remembered trying (unsuccessfully) to download pictures to them at one point! Ullium. Quote
+Learned Gerbil Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 If you don't know what it was called, and have no idea where it originally came from, things look bleak. Options for viewing photos on OS4 and earler devices are not good. My Clie came with PictureGear, which is not ideal, but is better than any of the alternatives I have tried. It is possible the application is on your install disk, if you have one. Quote
+Team Ullium Posted October 28, 2004 Author Posted October 28, 2004 Learned Gerbil....I owe you a drink mate Mark you I got two CD disks with the Palm M505 ... one for the Palm operating system and one for bonus applications for the Palm....now this is the disk I used to re-install the rest of my applications....so I didn't think to open it up in Windows Explorer to read what else was on that disk....until I read your post...and bingo....PhotoSuite....the little sucker was hidden there!? This application also does video btw....though I don't think I will be taking advantage of that option Alls well that ends well eh? Ullium. Quote
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