+SixDogTeam Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 The term "Flame" is used in the forums to mean to disagree with somebody. I always thought it meant, like to shoot somebody's argument down in flames--but am I way off base? The reason I ask, is , the local radio DJ just used the term, the first time I've seen it outside these forums, and he used it twice to describe one political debate candidate's treatment of another-- But he pronounced it "Flammed" rhyming with "Spammed" --Is he wrong or am I not understanding the term? so, how do you pronounce it and what is the derivation? And PLEASE, don't flame me. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Flaming is much more than simple disagreement. Quote Link to comment
+SixDogTeam Posted October 22, 2004 Author Share Posted October 22, 2004 I know that, I want to know how to pronounce the word, and it's derivation. Quote Link to comment
+AuntieWeasel Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Flammed? Wot a banana! No, no...the flame has a long and venerable history online, and it's definitely "flamed." I should know, I've traded in them for years Quote Link to comment
+Team GPSaxophone Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 A "Flam" is a percussion rudiment where you play a grace note follwed immediately by an accented note. Maybe the DJ was talking about poking with a stick then swinging a baseball bat Quote Link to comment
+SixDogTeam Posted October 22, 2004 Author Share Posted October 22, 2004 OK, so you guys forced me to do something I didn't want to do: I looked it up in the dictionary and I found a reference , "to burst..into a rage" and it's under flame, the fire, so the DJ was just reading copy somebody else wrote and he hasn't a clue...good. Quote Link to comment
Jeremy Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 This is a pretty good definition: (n.) A searing e-mail or newsgroup message in which the writer attacks another participant in overly harsh, and often personal, terms. Flames are an unfortunate, but inevitable, element of unmoderated conferences. (v.) To post a flame. Quote Link to comment
+CompuCash Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Flam is also a desert - OH! NO! that's flan - I think you are right - and that disubs me no end here on our tv news - they are just reading - or misreading - and have no idea what they are saying or talking about. Quote Link to comment
+Byron & Anne Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Maybe the DJ was using the term Flam as is in "Flim Flam", or "Flim Flammed" meaning scam or sammed? Quote Link to comment
+sept1c_tank Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Maybe the DJ is a stupid jerk who shouldn't be allowed to talk (or flam)! Quote Link to comment
+woof n lulu Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 If you have ever been/feel scorched by someones reply to your post, you definately know what a flame/flaming is........ but then there are those who like to add fuel to the flame Quote Link to comment
+SixDogTeam Posted October 22, 2004 Author Share Posted October 22, 2004 Maybe the DJ was using the term Flam as is in "Flim Flam", or "Flim Flammed" meaning scam or sammed? nah, now I'm sure he was just mispronouncing our word--now come to think of it, they were mis-using it also, since Jeremy indicates the word refers to e-mails and forums...The whole thing was wierd, since the lady doing the flaming was flaming an incumbant congressman, then she got flustered and left the stage twice, from severe stage fright, and the TV station never aired the debate... But I think after that she went out to the woods to calm herself and went GEOCACHi NG!! Quote Link to comment
+amytincan Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 could it have been phlem? *hack hack* Quote Link to comment
+Team GPSaxophone Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Your DJ is an idiot These are flams: They go something like this: Quote Link to comment
+SixDogTeam Posted October 22, 2004 Author Share Posted October 22, 2004 My head is going to explode... Quote Link to comment
Jeremy Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 they were mis-using it also, since Jeremy indicates the word refers to e-mails and forums... Sort of. The origins come from newsgroups, but it has been adapted to mean attacking someone through words in other areas. Nowadays you can use the word flame in a political campaign, instead of, say, smear. Quote Link to comment
koz Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Flam is also a desert - OH! NO! that's flan - I think you are right - and that disubs me no end here on our tv news - they are just reading - or misreading - and have no idea what they are saying or talking about. also applies to the political debate as well! Quote Link to comment
+SixDogTeam Posted October 22, 2004 Author Share Posted October 22, 2004 Well, if geocaching has taught us anything, it is this: you don't have to know how to spell "cemetAry" in order to hide a micro in one. Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 they were mis-using it also, since Jeremy indicates the word refers to e-mails and forums... Sort of. The origins come from newsgroups, but it has been adapted to mean attacking someone through words in other areas. Nowadays you can use the word flame in a political campaign, instead of, say, smear. This is true. The word has grown beyond it's original roots as it has come into general usage. The latest word that has me scratching my head is bling bling. Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 (edited) nevermind Edited October 22, 2004 by Elf Danach Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 (edited) Swartchenegger flamed the senate today by calling them girly men in a move purported to be nothing more than political bling bling. I'm not sure if that works but I am sure I can't spell Arnolds last name Edit: Still can't spell. Edited October 22, 2004 by Renegade Knight Quote Link to comment
Earthdog Patrick Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 [ The latest word that has me scratching my head is bling bling. Yeah, where did that come from? Is it your eyes blinking at the reflecting light? or what? Quote Link to comment
Earthdog Patrick Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Swartchenegger I can't spell Arnolds last name I think you need at least one "Z" in there somewhere. geocaching is fun. Quote Link to comment
+sept1c_tank Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Swartchenegger flamed the senate today by calling them girly men in a move purported to be nothing more than political bling bling. Heck, that ain't bling bling; that's fact. Quote Link to comment
+Stunod Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 We should replace the word swag in geo-speak with bling-bling "Did you find any good bling-bling in the cache" "No, just broken McToys. Why can't people leave good bling-bling?" Quote Link to comment
beebot Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 It's amazing how many of our English words have devolved and the original meaning is lost. I think it all starts out by mispronouncing the word. For example in my neck of the woods, people say “traffic jam, better take a different ROOT” instead of “rout”. So now do people visualize a route as the roots of a tree instead of a pathway that you travel through? And eventually a route dissolves and become a root. Another example is “moot”. I hear people say “the point is MUTE”, which can also make sense like roots instead of routes, but the word becomes lost and it's meaning changed all by mispronouncing probably from mishearing. Quote Link to comment
+sept1c_tank Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Yes, and some really good ideals actually do lead to a mute point! Quote Link to comment
+SixDogTeam Posted October 22, 2004 Author Share Posted October 22, 2004 Don't force me to FLAME you off-topic posters! I like to go Geocaching. Quote Link to comment
+Beta Test Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Perhaps the DJ said SLammed instead of FLammed? That was the first thing that came to mind with me. Quote Link to comment
Pto Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 We should replace the word swag in geo-speak with bling-bling Someone please take this rope off from around my neck..... Back in HS, we used to use the term "torched" for the same meaning as "Flamed" Does that mean we where ahead of our times, or behind them??? Quote Link to comment
Pipanella Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Maybe the DJ was using the term Flam as is in "Flim Flam", or "Flim Flammed" meaning scam or sammed? nah, now I'm sure he was just mispronouncing our word--now come to think of it, they were mis-using it also, since Jeremy indicates the word refers to e-mails and forums...The whole thing was wierd, since the lady doing the flaming was flaming an incumbant congressman, then she got flustered and left the stage twice, from severe stage fright, and the TV station never aired the debate... But I think after that she went out to the woods to calm herself and went GEOCACHi NG!! I saw that on the news. Not the flaming, the lady getting up and leaving the debate with Souder, twice. Quote Link to comment
+cachew nut Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 (edited) My radio has this round thing I can turn, and when I turn it someone else starts to talk. In my car there is a button that does the same thing. Maybe your radio has a button or round thing you can turn. Edit: you don't turn the button, you push it. Edited October 22, 2004 by cachew nut Quote Link to comment
+Metaphor Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Where was this DJ from? My brother in Upstate NY "FlAEYmes" me quite often. Here in the Mid Atlantic, I get "FlAYmed" as well as "FlAM'd". Further south, I get universally "FlAM'd." Quote Link to comment
+Maclir Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Wasn't there a crazy song years ago "The Flim Flam Floozy with the Floy, Floy"? Quote Link to comment
+Stunod Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Wasn't there a crazy song years ago "The Flim Flam Floozy with the Floy, Floy"? I like floozies I like them a lot Quote Link to comment
+Sissy-n-CR Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 In reply to BeeBot: I agree that the language we speak is changing. I see our language as a fluid thing, constantly mutating. We no longer use the same spelling rules as the writers of our Constitution did, and the meaning of words evolve through common usage. Most people write and speak what they hear. My mother has a hearing problem, and she has mispronounced some words for so long that it is kind of like knowing a second language for me. Vafume for vacuum, baining for bathing. No one told her that is was incorrect, for fear of hurting her feelings. Recently, she confided that she had spoken to someone else with a hearing loss, and she hoped that was not what she sounded like. We had a nice talk about it and she was surprisingly open to practicing some of her worst words. Mispronounciation also comes when a person reads a larger vocabulary than he hears. For years I thought it was 'guess-ture', not jesture (gesture) and in-E-vetible. CR still delights with my struggle for pal-ah-table (palatable). One hundred years from now, most of us will not recognize many parts of our own language. (if we are living to hear it! ) Sissy Quote Link to comment
+SixDogTeam Posted October 22, 2004 Author Share Posted October 22, 2004 Wasn't there a crazy song years ago "The Flim Flam Floozy with the Floy, Floy"? She was the gal-pal of the"Ding Dong Daddy from Doomis" Quote Link to comment
+SixDogTeam Posted October 22, 2004 Author Share Posted October 22, 2004 I saw that on the news. Not the flaming, the lady getting up and leaving the debate with Souder, twice. Why would that be on an Ohio TV station? The novelty of it? Oh, and hey, Pip whats with the new tractor avatar? I like to cache hunt with my little dog. Quote Link to comment
Pipanella Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 I saw that on the news. Not the flaming, the lady getting up and leaving the debate with Souder, twice. Why would that be on an Ohio TV station? The novelty of it? Oh, and hey, Pip whats with the new tractor avatar? I like to cache hunt with my little dog. No, not an Ohio station. I live close enough to Fort Wayne, that those are the stations we get here. Ask me if I'm happy that they delay broadcasting by an hour, since Indiana doesn't observe DST? Go ahead, just ask me!!! The tractor avatar came about in Cheers, as a welcome back for tirediron. He's been out at sea for awhile and got back today. Quote Link to comment
+SixDogTeam Posted October 22, 2004 Author Share Posted October 22, 2004 Ask me if I'm happy that they delay broadcasting by an hour, since Indiana doesn't observe DST? Go ahead, just ask me!!! We don't need no stinkin' daylight savin'. Sides, the cows don't get it, and whine about being milked at a different time...It's too durn complicated!! Nice tractor. GEOcaching is fun. Quote Link to comment
+NightPilot Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 I think the flame connotation comes from the flamethrower, a weapon of little subtlety. If you attack someone with a flamethrower, (flaming them) then you intend to literally cook them, leaving no one and nothing alive. A flame is an all-out attack, not just a friendly jab. Quote Link to comment
+vree Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 Flamage = bad!! Are you going to call up and flame that DJ? I think bling bling is one my new favorite phrases, and I like the idea of calling swag bling bling. Or just singular bling. It's ridiculous. And now girls are wearing the phrase on the seats of their pants. Even more ridiculous. Quote Link to comment
+NightPilot Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 The Ding-Dong Daddy was from Dumas, a small town in the western Texas panhandle. Been there, made sure I left nothing worth going back for. Another corruption that irritates me is using there for their, as in "They left there stuff over here". Not to mention using it for they're. Same thing with your and you're. It's just a lack of education - my English teacher would have a hissy fit if she saw some of the ignorance displayed on the net these days. I'm slowly learning to ignore it. Quote Link to comment
Pipanella Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 The Ding-Dong Daddy was from Dumas, a small town in the western Texas panhandle. Been there, made sure I left nothing worth going back for. Another corruption that irritates me is using there for their, as in "They left there stuff over here". Not to mention using it for they're. Same thing with your and you're. It's just a lack of education - my English teacher would have a hissy fit if she saw some of the ignorance displayed on the net these days. I'm slowly learning to ignore it. It may not be a lack of education, just a lack of caring enough to truly learn what's been taught. I'm pretty sure there are some students that were in my English class that make those mistakes. Quote Link to comment
+sept1c_tank Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 You can flam me if you want; I still call clothes pins "close pins." Shucks, these days we just throw thanes in the warsher. Quote Link to comment
Pipanella Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 You can flam me if you want; I still call clothes pins "close pins."Shucks, these days we just throw thanes in the warsher. Quote Link to comment
+SixDogTeam Posted October 23, 2004 Author Share Posted October 23, 2004 Ahhh FLAMETHROWERS--I get it. In my war we just dropped napalm from the sky... Quote Link to comment
+NightPilot Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 I still maintain it's a lack of education - either through laziness, lack of intelligence, or poor teaching. Most often the first, but I've seen my kids bring home notes from teachers and principals that embarrassed me. The grammar and spelling can be atrocious, and if that's coming from the school, then the kids probably aren't getting proper instruction. Combine all three, and you get some doozies. Quote Link to comment
+okpondlady/N5PNE Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 This is true. The word has grown beyond it's original roots as it has come into general usage. The latest word that has me scratching my head is bling bling. I bought some new glasses with blue frames and rhinestones on the top that have magnetic sunglasses attached. They care called Bling Bling Clips and come with a Pink glass case and they are COOL!!!! Karen Quote Link to comment
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