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I recently made the following online log:

 

This was #14 of 23 for the day.

[*** What follows is an OzGuff Editorial; the management takes no responsibility for any impact -- positive or negative -- OzGuff's views have on those who read it. ***]

 

You know what I hate? I hate it when cachers (individually or as a group) zoom through an area racking up huge numbers and they DON'T have the time or the inclination to enter a thoughtly and/or personalized log for each cache. I feel that it is a cacher's responsibility to thank the hiders of all the caches he/she finds. And a cut-and-paste job that is the same for every darn cache just doesn't cut it for me!

 

I have been on a number of cache outings where I have found 20+ caches, and every log entry is different from all the others. (And I am not just counting the fact that I number each cache as "different.") Some of my logs are shorter, and some are longer. If I like the hide or had a memorable experience I am much more likely to wax excessive, but I try to put something original in each log entry. Now maybe it is harder when you are doing 100s in a day; I can understand where another micro hidden under a park bench could seem awfully similar to many found earlier in the day. But tough! If the hider spends time placing the cache the finder should spend time letting them know about it! Maybe the cut-and-paste log entry is a function of caches found -- maybe I will be the same way after finding a few thousand caches -- but I don't think so! I like to let folks know a little about my experience; it is a small price to pay!

 

Warning -- you are about to read a paranthetical and rhetorical aside!

 

(I wonder if I can place text in each of my hidden cache pages that if I feel the finder has not left anything of originality in their log entry the log will be deleted?)

 

Back to my log entry! I admit that I used the hint for this cache, and I am glad that I did. This is a very, very inventive hide! When I finally figured out what the hint meant, and found the cache, I was very amazed at the manner of the hide! (I then spent five minutes trying to open the cache like a flip-top rather than as a screw-top...) I would like to thank Dear Dora and Atrus for a great hide! TNLNSL TFTC!

 

The impetus for the above was a group of high number cachers from middle TN visiting western NC, finding 160+ caches in 2-3 days, and logging the same generic log for each cache. I am sure that they are all great people, and I don't mean to pick on them specifically; I just wanted to see what the feeling was on cut and paste logs that are as original as porn film plotlines.

 

And to Monkeybrad, JoGPS, Southpaw, rippietoe and r0b -- thanks for visiting the area and sorry to drag your names into this. (And I can't believe you couldn't find the Liz's Favorite Restaurant and Cornerpost caches! :anibad: )

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I couldn't agree more. Getting a bunch of emails from gc.com saying people found a bunch of my caches (and I've got a good amount of them) and then finding out they all say the same this is annoying. It's like getting spam. However, they are logging the caches online, which I think is more important then giving an account of their experience. What really gets me is when the cut and paste log is "Thanks for the cache", and nothing else. To repeatedly say that is pretty sad. It makes me wonder why they even bother.

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You don't have to give anything away -- let the cache owner know about the weather, what music was on the radio as you parked the car, or that there is a funny sticker in the cache. Anything except, "Thank you for hiding the traditional/virtual/webcam cache. I/We enjoyed your area. Nothing can go wrong, go wrong, go wrong..."

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And I am not campaigning for paragraphs on the virtues of the K-mart lamp post hide, or "An Ode To A Micro." Some caches lend themselves to brevity, but given a small amount of time even a short sentence can be personalized, and would be preferable to the cut-and-paste jobs.

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And I am not campaigning for paragraphs on the virtues of the K-mart lamp post hide, or "An Ode To A Micro." Some caches lend themselves to brevity, but given a small amount of time even a short sentence can be personalized, and would be preferable to the cut-and-paste jobs.

I certainly agree! But I can also understand how after 150 finds in a weekend, you can't remember one from the other. My teammate and I try to make good notes, but by the time we're logging the finds 3 days later, I don't know the difference between lamp post A and lamp post B anymore.

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And I am not campaigning for paragraphs on the virtues of the K-mart lamp post hide, or "An Ode To A Micro." Some caches lend themselves to brevity, but given a small amount of time even a short sentence can be personalized, and would be preferable to the cut-and-paste jobs.

I certainly agree! But I can also understand how after 150 finds in a weekend, you can't remember one from the other. My teammate and I try to make good notes, but by the time we're logging the finds 3 days later, I don't know the difference between lamp post A and lamp post B anymore.

I completely agree with your complete agreement. However, I would prefer the following to a cut-and-paste job:

 

September 5 by Monkeybrad

 

Last night JoGPS won the award for the most flatulent middle TN cacher ever. If you are at Geo-Woodstock 3 I will tell you the complete story. TNLNSL TFTC!

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Excellent caches will produce long and interesting logs. Even people on a "cache machine", or a weeked geocacing extravaganza will remember the cache and write a little more about it.

As I was logging my meager 23 finds for that day I couldn't help but notice the plethora of "I'm with the Labor Day Adventure Team/I found your cache/Your area is beautiful" logs. However I also noticed that every once in a while a short sentence about a hide that almost eluded them would be added. And I am sure that the cache owner was grateful for that extra effort.

 

I am not advocating mandatory originality and effort for all logs, merely stating my disdain for the cut-and-paste. But I do remember a couple of caches where as part of the online logging process originality WAS required or your log would be deleted. Some examples were adding to an ongoing story (akin to the "add five words" thread in Off-Topic), logging in the form of a poem, and a completely over the top log a la John Lovitz's pathological liar character.

 

The online log is required for gc.com to keep track of your finds; an original and thoughtful log -- long or short -- is an easy and pleasant way to thank the cache hider for their effort.

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Uninspired light pole, guard rail, or newspaper stand micros usually get uninspired logs. That shouldn't be too surprising. If I had a high speed internet connection I might be more detailed in my log entries after an 80 cache run, but I do not generally have the time for it considering the length of time it takes, and considering the site performance at times over the last few months.

 

However as others have said, if a cache is extraordinary I will certainly take more time with the log even in the middle of 80 log entrys.

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I would just be happy that they bothered to log them online. :lol:

Last weekend, a group of three cachers from out of state swooped into this area and did over 80 caches in two days--they did over 40 of my cemetery caches. How did they log? One basically did a cut and paste; one had different, but short logs; and one hasn't even logged yet (after a week) . Do I care? The main thing here I think, is that they had FUN--that's why I place caches--so I can have fun hiding them, and people will enjoy them, and they tell me they did. However they want to play the game or post their logs is fine with me. THIS weekend, I had a group of two Lady cachers find one of my waterfall caches and they both posted VERY long and hilarious posts--and they had FUN, despite one of them falling off the waterfall , and one of them posted a note as well as their find-- so it goes both ways--Oh and another note on the three cachers who did the marathon weekend thing--They did maintenance work on three of my caches--even replaced the container on one! :lol::lol::laughing:

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Because I was mentioned in the first post as an example of copy and paste online cache logging.

 

Yes we did find a lot of caches and had a blast doing them, any cache owner that would like to delete my log for not saying what a great light pole hide it was, can do so, and will post a TNLNALP.

 

This is a game of finding caches not writing an essay.

 

I left a trade items in 40 of those caches and said so on the cache page, for the rest of them this was my copy and paste log :

 

“”The Labor Day Adventure Team ( Monkeybrad, Scoot The Frog, Southpaw, Rippietoe, r0b, and me ) where cache hunting in your area this beautiful weekend. took nothing but a smile, and memories Thank you for placing it…………. JOE””

 

As you can see I thanked every one placing the cache and let them know what beautiful weekend it was. We had six no finds and thanked those folks as well for placing them.

 

We did not see a single cache we had not seen placed like it before, if I had would have said so, one cache had an outstanding view and said so in my log.

 

It is true, this was a numbers run and sure we did not see or hunt some of the better caches in the area or did we. , But by telling everyone that we had a great time in the area even the ones we did not find were still fun and told them so.

 

If you want a long log about things in the area that’s cool, but has nothing to do about finding the cache. Would it be better to say WOW this light pole was green, and most are white the cover was stuck but it got it anyway thanks for placing such a creative hide, I don’t think so, but we did have fun finding it on a trip in the area .

 

If you want to read an essay join the book of the month club……………… JOE

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And to Monkeybrad, JoGPS, Southpaw, rippietoe and r0b -- thanks for visiting the area and sorry to drag your names into this.

I apologize again for dragging you (and the other four members of the Labor Day Adventure Team) into this; nothing personal, it just so happened that your collective posts were the most recent example I had read. This has also become a great example of how touchy folks are about forum posts -- I wasn't slamming anyone, just sharing my opinion. It is entirely possible that when I go on a day of 80+ caches I will re-think my "thoughtful and personalized" policy. (My current best is 47 in 24 hours and they all got individualized online logs.)

 

I am glad that the mid-TN folks hit our area, and that 6 caches went undiscovered. There are alot of 2/2 and under caches in the area so high-number days are very possible. But I wasn't trying to point fingers, just to make a point.

 

However, let me use this most recent incursion to western NC (and NW SC) as an example: 87 of JoGPS' finds were hidden by NC_Ron&Dianne (the area's most prolific hiders). I am sure they are appreciative of the many notification logs they received; I am also sure they appreciated the time and thought placed into those logs.

 

Again -- all I wanted to do was state my opinion. Folks can agree with me or not. We all "play" this differently! And to each their own...

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I agree with you Oz,

 

If I take time to find a cache I try to write something about my experience, the cache, the trip to the cache - anything but a lame cut/paste.

 

I've done this on the days I've found close to or over 30 caches (by myself, very rarely cache in a group). Even without writing down notes I can always remember something about every cache, event he plain/boring/sucky ones.

 

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QUOTE (Team PerkyPerks @ Sep 11 2004, 08:37 PM)

QUOTE (Will @ Bill+Sep 11 2004, 08:36 PM)

In this cache, long log entries never seem to show up.  Does anyone else have caches like that? 

 

That's still better than most of the log entries on this cache!! 

 

That is just weird

 

Not really read the name of the cache. It seems to me they were legit entries.

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QUOTE (Team PerkyPerks @ Sep 11 2004, 08:37 PM)

QUOTE (Will @ Bill+Sep 11 2004, 08:36 PM)

In this cache, long log entries never seem to show up.  Does anyone else have caches like that? 

 

That's still better than most of the log entries on this cache!! 

 

That is just weird

 

Not really read the name of the cache. It seems to me they were legit entries.

I agree they're legit; I had just come across that cache a few minutes before reading this thread and found it amusing. :laughing:

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I agree with JoGPS on this one. Sometimes, I am not moved to write a detailed log. Its not always about the cache, either. Sometime, I am just rushed and want to go ahead and get the finds logged, rather than wait to log another day.

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Even when I'm on a numbers run through an area, I always take the time to jot down a note or two about something specific to each cache (unless it's yet another lame lamppost/guardrail/roadside dump micro, of course). That way, when I get home or stop for the night to log them, I can write a unique log for each one. I do this even when I do 20 or 30 or more in a day.

 

The Middle TN gang did the same copy/paste on every one of my cache pages (as well as the cache pages of my fellow cachers in my area) that they found when they blew through the Miss. Gulf Coast area where I'm based a few months back. I wasn't offended, per se, I just chalked it up to the fact that their primary objective was to crank their numbers and not to offer any commentary, good or bad, on any of the caches they found. OK, maybe they WERE also really interested in visiting and experiencing a new part of the country for them; they just chose not to share any of that in their logs. No skin off my back, whatever floats your boat, guys. (I also didn't take the copy/pastes as code for "your caches sucked" because of all the other "Thanks for taking me to a great location I wouldn't have visited otherwise" logs that I routinely get from other searchers on my caches in general.)

 

I would comment, however, that the fact that cachers in multiple areas have made the same comment/observation about this group of cachers when they've blown through the areas, means that a reputation is indeed developing. Whether that reputation is "good", "bad", or "indifferent" is a matter for the beholder to decide (case in point, I'm "indifferent" about it). Whether this group of cachers even cares or not about said reputation is also up to them.

 

Personally, as a "visiting cacher" to many areas around the country myself, I prefer to have the reputation among the local cachers as someone who takes the time to write worthwhile logs with unique observations...I routinely get notes of thanks from these local cachers, who like to see a relatively-high-number cacher like me come through the area and still take the time to do that. Although it's not the reason I write these logs (I write them because I just feel it's a key part of the game to do it, is all), it IS still gratifying to me to get those notes of thanks from these folks. People DO notice the difference between a unique log and a copy/paste.

 

-Dave R. in Biloxi

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Yes we did find a lot of caches and had a blast doing them, any cache owner that would like to delete my log for not saying what a great light pole hide it was, can do so, and will post a TNLNALP.

 

This is a game of finding caches not writing an essay.

 

I gota go wit JoGPS on this. You need to understand they were on a specific mission of gun-n-go. I would accept it under those circumstances.

 

What get me is the one's like:

"Found it "

"TN/LN"

"was here"

and so on!

These are from local/cachers who meander thru at a slower pace and can't even state something like " nice park" , "nice view T/pics" " enjoyed the park" yet they take 3-4 nice items from the cache and leave junk/McD's toys or nothing at all, and so on.

 

If JoGPS and came here and hit my 7 caches, I would be proud that they chose mine to do above others!

 

Going OT for a quick bit!

BTW: GREAT JOB! JoGPS and the rest of the crew for pulling off such a successful event! Wish we could have come down! Next time. SF1

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I enjoy reading and writing thought out cache logs myself.

 

If you're having trouble coming up with stuff to say about the caches you visit, become a birdwatcher. I nearly always spot some interesting bird on the way to a cache, so I simply report what species of birds I see and what they're doing.

 

Other things I often write about when "nice view" or "nice hike" are all that come to mind:

 

-funny or cute things my son does when he accompanies me

-benchmarks I looked for on the way to the cache

-the weather

 

If you're creative, you'll find a million things to write about on nearly every hunt.

 

(You can tell there aren't micros in my neck of the woods. :blink: )

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I left a trade items in 40 of those caches and said so on the cache page, for the rest of them this was my copy and paste log :

 

“”The Labor Day Adventure Team ( Monkeybrad, Scoot The Frog, Southpaw, Rippietoe, r0b, and me ) where cache hunting in your area this beautiful weekend. took nothing but a smile, and memories Thank you for placing it…………. JOE””

 

As you can see I thanked every one placing the cache and let them know what beautiful weekend it was.

So what are your specific memories from finds #s 7, 63, and 142 from that weekend?

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I will always have memories of our run in NC where I broke my one day record of 42 finds in one day to 102, the weather was great as far as 7, 63 and 142 go I have no idea which ones those were but I can tell you this , it was a Blast finding them……….. JOE

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I just want to remind folks that all I did was post my opinion of cut-and-paste logs. It is unlikely that I will ever resort to that method of logging my finds on gc.com. If other cachers use that method, fine by me.

 

(However, I did smile when reading the post two above this one.. :blink: )

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Hey, at least Joe and the others logged online, letting the cache owner's of #s 7, 63, and 142 know their cache is there, in good shape, and thanking them for contibuting to an enjoyable day. That's a lot more then the cache owner gets from someone who doesn't even log online. I'm sure it's also a lot more then just the date and initials/name people wrote in the physical logs of most of those micros.

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Excellent caches will produce long and interesting logs. Even people on a "cache machine", or a weeked geocacing extravaganza will remember the cache and write a little more about it.

You hit the nail on the head. I try to write longer, specific logs for caches, but after a day of doing caches like this:

The twenty-seventh in the series of xxxxx's Micros

 

This micro is hidden somewhere between a main road and a strip mall. You do NOT have to go past the sidewalk to find this one. Not enough room for anything except the logbook, so bring your own writing implement.

 

You're probably gonna get a log like this from me:

 

:blink: September 13 by Mopar (a bunch found)

27th strip mall I've visited today. Nice yellow parking lot stripes in this one.

TNLNSL. Thanks for bringing me to your special place.

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That's a lot more then the cache owner gets from someone who doesn't even log online.

Is it? You presume too much. I think it's more important for cache owners to be alerted to problems with their caches; they can peruse all those "TFTC" notes in the logbook during their regularly scheduled maintenance visits.

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OzGuff looks like you don’t like anyone doing it that’s why you started this thread , but that’s OK I like whiners to……. JOE

Whiners? Hey, I've behaved myself recently!

 

 

You know, I have to say that this entire thread is just a little off... I mean, you're talking about the people who do 100+ at once, not the people that are going out and have four caches to log. Generally, if you're doing 100+ you're on a pure numbers run and just about everything you're looking for are lightpoles, park and grabs, etc..

 

When I did Geo-Woodstock, I did the same cut and paste message for most of the caches I went to, too, because what am I going to say? "Drove 528 feet to the next parking lot, thanks for the light pole cache"? So instead, for the average park and grab, I chose to cut and paste a message to all those caches.

 

On that same note, hides that had a particularly good story associated with them, were rather clever, went to a nice spot, etc, I marked when I was keeping track of the caches on paper, and those I did leave a note for.

 

But if all you're finding is a guard rail/light pole/park and grab micro, then the cache owner probably shouldn't expect long detailed novellas describing how someone got out of their car, walked four steps, grabbed the cache, signed the log (and by the way, would you like to know what kind of pen they used?) and did or didn't get spotted by muggles.

 

At least most of the time when you cut and paste something, it's more informative than TNLNSL TFTC would be.

 

One of 140 for the day with the cache caravan led by Southpaw. Momma DirtClod, Serenity Now and Destitute were with us, too. Thanks for the cache!

 

But hey, if you'd rather just have a bunch of letters (lets not actually type the word thanks) I'll go change all my logs that look like this one.

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As one of the mentioned poor loggers, I guess I should respond.

 

Our run to NC was not meant to be a big numbers run anymore than any of our runs are. We chose NC and SC because most of us had not hunted there before and it was close enough to allow us to loeave after work on Friday and to be back in Nashville by midday monday, becasue a couple of us had tickets to the Sting/Annie Lennox concert Monday night. When we got there we were amazed at the cache density and had a ball hunting. We ended up in SC because Spartanburg was the closest hotel room we could find to Hendersonville NC when we started looking for one around 10PM. When we left we pulled several pocket queries of all types of caches with a terrain of 2 or less. That way we could pretty much wander any direction we wanted without running out of caches and we generally pull terrains of 2 or less when we are on the road, because we would raqther see a large area than just do one or two in a single park. Also if you get 300 miles from home there is no point having 5's in your query since we probably wouldn't have the proper equipment with us anyway. We did fifty something on Saturday just wandering around the Asheville-Hendersonville area, grabbed dinner and then tried to find a room. When we got up Sunday morning we started back north and found two incredible strings of caches. They were close together and allowed us to take a scenic route back towards Hendersonville, up through Tryon. We saw lots of great sights, did a little shopping and even met some particularly interesting people. We made it back to Asheville late, spent the night and got up early to head back to Nashville on Monday morning.

 

We really had a great trip, finding lots of caches was just a bonus for us. The thing you have to understand is that we are not just fellow cachers riding together. The labor day adventure team was a group of close friends. We take these trips not to "up our numbers" but to spend time together doing something we all enjoy. My greatest memories of these trips rarely involve caching at all. I remember Southpaw and Angelflye at Hook, Line and Sinker kicked back with a drunken pirate, or Rippietoe wanting to stop to talk to every "Dunky" she saw, or JoGps mooning us from the top of a cliff, etc. These trips are about the experience, we make side trips if we see something interesting, whether there are caches there or not. Don't look at us as a group of power-cachers out to sweep an area clean, look at us as a group of friends out enjoying themselves.

 

With that said, you do also have to remember that when my truck left home with the six of us in it we represent around 15,000 combined cache finds from all over the country and a couple of other countries to boot. If the cache is there, we generally will find it pretty quickly, and it is getting to be pretty rare for us to find something hidden in a new style. I would also like to add, that we sometimes get hung up on the simplest caches and just cannot find them. We also are running six gpsr's and two laptops, so navigation is rarely a problem.

 

I was surprised that we found as many as we did, but it is a testimony to the cache density in the area. We did find lots of clever hides and we enjoyed them all. I did not find anything that I would call a lame cache. We did find a couple that were in need of maintenance and you will see that reflected in our logs. If something was particularly clever I noted it in my logs, before i pasted my generic "who we are, why we were here" tag. I figure that the information in my "paste" was important for anyone who looked at the page and I added anything else that I thought was important either before or after it. If nothing particularly interesting happened at a cache site and the hide wasn't particularly clever, i just posted my "paste". If something did happen, I mentioned it, for the most part.

 

However there were things that I chose not to mention. There was a wasps nest at one location that had not been mentioned in previous logs, I was feeling around for the cache in the dark and found the nest instead, got stung on my hand a couple of times and cursed loudly. Instead of mentioning it on the page and perhaps scaring people away, I disposed oif the nest and moved on. There were caches where the logs mentioned how tough they were or how clever the hide was, I chose not to mention it when we found them within thirty seconds of stopping or that I had seen that type of hide hundreds of times, or that I owned one like that. We also found a nanocahce where everyone talked about how small it was and how long it took to find. We found it at 11PM in the dark in less than a minute and when we did , I checked and found that three of my new nanocaches would fit comfortably inside it, I did not mention this because it was a good hide and the owner was obviously proud of it, so there was no point bursting their bubble. It seems to me that it is only polite to be appreciative of the caches that people have hidden for us to find and to not take potshots at the locals. With the nanocache mentioned above we did enjoy it immensely, and we were proud of ourselves for finding it so quickly, but i did not thinik that it would be a good thing to point this out to the owner. We found some caches where the coords were off significantly, but we did not mention it, because, we found the cache, so they got us to the right area. We found caches of questionable placement, but we did not mention it, because who am I to say they did not get permission.

 

We were all truly appreciative of every cache we found and I think that even our "pasted" logs show that. I am sorry if it seems hard for us to be sincere when we cut and pasted many of the logs, but I was there and I know it to be true. I try to be complimentary when we go through an area, while still being honest. I will say for myself, that I copy-pasted most of my logs because I was leaving town again on Wednesday and i did not want to get behind on my logging, I figured it would be better to copy paste the log, than to get behind and not get it logged at all. Even pasting my logs with a couple of short personalizing things on some of them it took me over four hours on DSL to get the weekend logged up. So I apologize if anyone was offended that i did not take the time to write a personalized log for each and every one of the 168 caches, but at least i did take the time to come and hunt them and to make sure that they were rehidden as well as we had found them. I enjoyed your caches.

 

P.S. OzGuff, I really enjoyed hunting your caches since we had exchanged emails while i was planning my London trip. If I had realized we were going to be in you neighborhood, I would have invited you to join us for dinner one night.

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I have a few caches that are tagged by visitors through town. they all say the same thing on most of them, and I just appreciate that they stopped and hunted.

 

I also have an unknown mystery cache RIGHT BY THE FWY that has gotten it's share of out of towners. I have yet to recieve a cookie cutter log on it... Dont drink the water

 

I have another slightly less popular one that gets the same results... Goosebumps OR blind mans bluff

 

My opinion is that quality caches get quality logs, normal caches get 'normal' logs.

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I forgot to mention that in my personal memory log I have detailed notes about all of the caches that we have ever found. I may not remember the name right off hand (since we hunt using the GC #'s and sometimes I never know what a cache is named) but I would be willing to bet that if you gave me a minute and let me ask a couple of questions about the cache so I could get it right in my mind which one it was, I could tell you how just about every one of them was hidden and probably something else about it. Even if it is just something silly like, " I peed behind the pine tree to the left of the cache". Like I said, for me it is about the experience. RobertLipe sometimes calls me the Rain Man cacher because of this.

 

As the owner of 70 hidden caches, it has never bothered me when someone posts a copy pasted log on one of mine. Of course, I love the ones where people go on and on about how great a cache mine is, but I also understand when people do not. I figure I placed the caches for them to find not so they could provide entertainment for me when they log them. With that said, I agree that it is better when their logs entertain me, but I do not have any hard feelings when they do not.

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You're probably gonna get a log like this from me:

 

:D September 13 by Mopar (a bunch found)

27th strip mall I've visited today. Nice yellow parking lot stripes in this one.

TNLNSL. Thanks for bringing me to your special place.

 

Hey MOPAR,

I really wanted to know two things about your log.

A ) Were the lights on or off.

B ) Did you park between the yellow lines.

 

OK I'll add one more: :blink:

C ) When you parked, did you pull-in, or back-in.

 

Inquiring minds need to know.

You could give us more details , too ya know. :)

SF1

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One word to all of you cut and pasters....

 

"oregon"

 

Now he knows how to write a dang log..

 

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"February 9 by oregone (505 found)

How frustrating it is to be within 200 feet of the cache and have a busy freeway in your path. Luckily for me, i've lived in three different places in Salem so i remembered the park this cache is located in after looking across Hwy 22 for about thirty seconds.

 

I don't remember being able to park so close to that part of the park, so i ended up parking way on the other side of the railroad tracks next to the Marion County Correctional Facility chain-gang. Too bad i'm not a sexy voluptous blonde girl, otherwise I would have had an impromptu car-washing.

 

after i found the cache and made the trade i had a few hours to kill, so i decided to go visit one of the many colleges i've gone to, Chemeketa Community. Now that was depressing. A whole parking lot full of cars and nobody in the halls but maintenance personell and remodelling contractors. Where is Elaine Konovolov? Shannon Stanley? Where was Jocelyn, that cute girl from Saipan? And that hot teachers aide from the statistics class that I got kicked out of? I missed these girls sorely as I wandered aimlessly through Building 3 like a ghost haunting an old haunt. There was this one girl in my Chemistry class that was 27-years-old. She was an old lady to me back then."

 

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I just reread this thread to make sure that I was not over-reacintg and wanted to answer a couple of things. Like I said we were not really on a numbers run, it just worked out that way. If you will look at the caches we did the only thing you will find is that the terrains were all 2 or less. We did not focus on micros or guard rails etc. we just pulled a query of terrain 2 or less and then went and hunted whatever was nearest, whether that meant a hike in the woods for an ammo can or a micro in a light post. The only caches that we intentionally skipped were ones that were in a park (and a walking trail in Hendersonville) after the park was closed, one in a library that was closed, on in a rock garden that was closed and a couple on Hendersonville's main street because the Apple Festival was in full swing. Outside of that we tried pretty much everything else, if you will look you will see that we did puzzle caches, multi's, whatever was closest when we headed to the next cache.

 

To answer the above, Number seven was under a bridge under an interstate, near the Farmer's market, there were stinging nettles there and I had to show everyone what they looked like since we do not have them in nashville. I got stung by them in London and I told everyone the story on the way to the next cache which was by a stop sign on an exit ramp.

Number 63 was really number 5 of day two, it was at the NC SC border and a couple of people stopped to ask us what we were doing, we told them that we were just checking the line and that we might have to move it over 18 inches, they were driving a bronze lexus suv, after we found the cache we checked both side of the road for a border marker, I peed behind a tree off the south side of the road, because I had too much coffee at the Waffle House earlier. The one before this was at an old country church, the mulch was fresh in the flower bed so we thought it might be missing, but we found it. As we were leaving it an old restored model T drove by and blew his OOO-GAH horn at us and waved.

Number 142 which in my mind is 16 from the last on day two, was back near Hendersonville, I do not remember the name, but it was at a farm where there were two large, i mean huge, fiberglass bulls standing on the corner inside a really great fence. I put my hand on the cache and did not feel it, but r0b came behind me and did. We messed up and left the doors open and ended up with an excursion full of gnats, who were drawn to the lights. It was at the end of a run so we back tracked from here to Hendersonville, we drove through many apple orchards and were sorely tempted to stop and steal some apples, but we did not do it. I played Harry Connick Jr's The Jitterbug, to remind them what might happen to us if we tried to steal apples. It was really late and beginning to mist.

 

So there you go, I remember them, and I am sure that Joe would too, if I reminded him which one was which. I could pretty much give you the same level of detail for every cache. Unfortunately, it took me about three minutes per cache to remember and type up hwat happened there, let's see 3 times 168 equals 504 divided by 60 equals 91.73.

 

That is 91 hours and 42 minutes to log a trip that lasted 68 hours. While I do appreciate people placing caches for me to find, I sure do enjoy hunting them and I would rather spend my time hunting than logging. So once again I hope I did not offend anyone by pasting some my logs, and I hope you can understand why.

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... and I hope you can understand why.

I DO understand why, Brad and Joe (et al), but I just respectfully disagree with you on this (go figure!). I think if something memorable happened on the cache hunt, at the location, or if the location was memorable and thus comment-worthy, part of the game is to include that in your log...even if it means logging your caches from a high-number hunt will be that much more time consuming.

 

You see it differently. To each their own, then.

-Dave R.

 

P.S. Would you have written these logs? As much "no fun" as these experiences were at the time, I MADE THEM FUN by jotting down good notes each time at the car, and by making sure I wrote entertaining logs when I got on-line. Again, to me it's part of the game:

 

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...&log=y&decrypt=

 

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...&log=y&decrypt=

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QUOTE (Team PerkyPerks @ Sep 11 2004, 08:37 PM)

QUOTE (Will @ Bill+Sep 11 2004, 08:36 PM)

In this cache, long log entries never seem to show up.  Does anyone else have caches like that? 

 

That's still better than most of the log entries on this cache!! 

 

That is just weird

 

Not really read the name of the cache. It seems to me they were legit entries.

I agree they're legit; I had just come across that cache a few minutes before reading this thread and found it amusing. :blink:

How funny is that...

 

I just realized I own the cache they are talking about.

 

For the record, the logs are legit, except for the ones that actually say something, I just haven't gotten aroun to emailing them yet.

 

For the record, there is nothing on the cache page, whe you find the cache there are special logging instructions. It instructs you to log only a punctuation mark or less. The name of the cache is Minimalist, and it has the minimum amount of information possible, people seem to have really enjoyed it and it really frustrates people like myself who rarely look at cache pages and only hunt from the pda or laptop. I especially like the log where someone posted a picture of nothing. It is temp disabled because of condtruction in the area and should be back up in a couple of weeks.

 

As the owner of this cache, I have not been offended that most people seem to have copy pasted their logs to it and that they have not said anything nice.

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... and I hope you can understand why.

I DO understand why, Brad and Joe (et al), but I just respectfully disagree with you on this (go figure!). I think if something memorable happened on the cache hunt, at the location, or if the location was memorable and thus comment-worthy, part of the game is to include that in your log...even if it means logging your caches from a high-number hunt will be that much more time consuming.

 

You see it differently. To each their own, then.

-Dave R.

 

P.S. Would you have written these logs? As much "no fun" as these experiences were at the time, I MADE THEM FUN by jotting down good notes each time at the car, and by making sure I wrote entertaining logs when I got on-line. Again, to me it's part of the game:

 

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...&log=y&decrypt=

 

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...&log=y&decrypt=

For the record folks, I fully admit that Dave is a better logger than I am. :blink:

 

His logs certainly do seem to be bigger than mine.

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let's see 3 times 168 equals 504 divided by 60 equals 91.73.

 

Note to self: When caching with Monkeybrad, put someone else in charge of solving the math puzzles.

 

Note to everyone else: I've had the privilege of meeting this group and caching with some of them. I spent 24 consecutive hours in a car with JoGPS driving and Scoot the Frog navigating, not a cross word was said by anyone, and I cannot remember when I have laughed and smiled as much, even though many of the caches involved guard rails or lamp posts. If you want to learn how to maximize having FUN during your cache hunts, spend a day with this group.

 

This *is* supposed to be about having fun, isn't it? Maybe I missed a memo.

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let's see 3 times 168 equals 504 divided by 60 equals 91.73.

 

Note to self: When caching with Monkeybrad, put someone else in charge of solving the math puzzles.

 

Note to everyone else: I've had the privilege of meeting this group and caching with some of them. I spent 24 consecutive hours in a car with JoGPS driving and Scoot the Frog navigating, not a cross word was said by anyone, and I cannot remember when I have laughed and smiled as much, even though many of the caches involved guard rails or lamp posts. If you want to learn how to maximize having FUN during your cache hunts, spend a day with this group.

 

This *is* supposed to be about having fun, isn't it? Maybe I missed a memo.

Wow you are right!

 

SERIOUS MONKEYMATH ERROR

 

The correct answer is 8.4 which is still a devil of a long time to sit and log caches, particularly at work.

 

But seriously, thank you for the kind words, we try to have fun, and rarely try to anger anyone on purpose.

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