+avroair Posted September 6, 2004 Posted September 6, 2004 Lake Welch Hiking Loop - Eight caches total, in no particular order Saturday - September 11th. 1. brokedown palace 2. freedom fighters 3. Beech trail 4. Mac-28 Irish Mountain 5. Nickel Mine Cache 6. Tiorati Brook Road 7. Shelters of Harriman: Big Hill 8. The Mystery Cache 1 Or a hike at Bear mountian where there are 18-20 caches, the terrain is ruggard. More info tk. Hey Pete, is there a parking lot nearby?
+Quoddy Posted September 6, 2004 Posted September 6, 2004 Went to that area again today with the REAL Quoddy and did 7 before noon; none of them are on your list. I'll be gone for the next two weekends. There are about 30 caches on Prince Edward Island, Canada....I plan to hit them all in the 8 days I'm there. See you all when I get back.
+Squealy Posted September 6, 2004 Posted September 6, 2004 I should be in - Nancy too as long as there is no bushwacking involved. Still not happy with the yellow-jacks.
+macatac1961 Posted September 6, 2004 Posted September 6, 2004 Hey Pete, is there a parking lot nearby? Yeah, there's a good sized lot where Beech trail crosses Tiorati Brook Road (no parking fee), or at Lake Welch, but I don't know if they charge to park there.
+Team Rampant Lion Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 While I'd love to join a third Harriman group hunt, I'm not sure the walker I've acquired following the Silver Mine Lake hike will allow me to keep pace... Unfortunately, the 11th coincides with my son's BDay party which, given the fact that my wife gave the last few weekends to participate in other hunts, I agreed to host. If it were the 12th I would have a better chance. Although it looks like the remains of Frances will be here to ruin next weekend.
+Skully & Mulder et al. Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 I'm in - it will be just Autumn & I for this one.
+JMBella Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 (edited) I'm not even going to say yes or no anymore. Seems something always comes up. I'll just say... I'll let you know. Edited September 7, 2004 by JMBella
+IntotheWoods Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 Very tempting...will see if I can get away!
+briansnat Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 Gah, my daughter's first high school soccer game is the 11th. 10:30. Maybe I can catch up, but by the time I can get there you'll all be done probably.
+JMBella Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 Gah, my daughter's first high school soccer game is the 11th. 10:30. Maybe I can catch up, but by the time I can get there you'll all be done probably. Run really fast!
+Team DEMP Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 Gah, my daughter's first high school soccer game is the 11th. 10:30. Maybe I can catch up, but by the time I can get there you'll all be done probably. When do you think you'll get to Harriman? Maybe we can plan an afternoon loop too.
+avroair Posted September 7, 2004 Author Posted September 7, 2004 The Welch Lake area is definately easier than the last one at Silvermine. We could hit the two below then meet at one to do the others. There will be no rush, since this isn't as far.
+Squealy Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 I need trail info - will we mostly be on trails? Nancy is still a bit gun-shy about the yj's - and rightly so. The less bushwacking the better -
+Team DEMP Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 Here's my take. 1st the 2 "easy" ones since I did them. 7 & 8 in the original list I did by parking at a nearby church and going in which is a different way then we'd likely do them with the others, but the Shelter is obviously on the trail and the Mystery cache isn't far off the trail - maybe 50 ft or so. For the others, they look to me to be near trails though I'm not sure of the optimal route. Granted, I only looked just now at the map so I haven't checked all the options, but if you're going North for some and South for 7 & 8, I think the optimal way is parking, getting some caches, moving to another lot and getting the final 3 (Mac and the Shelter and Mystery caches). Just looking at these caches I'd guess maybe 3 hours to do them all if we moved cars after getting the 1st bunch.
+IntotheWoods Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 If the above are that easy, why not hit them all in the morning and then Bear Mt. in the afternoon? Feeling hardcore after last weekend, I guess!
+Team DEMP Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 If the above are that easy, why not hit them all in the morning and then Bear Mt. in the afternoon? Feeling hardcore after last weekend, I guess! That was my thought too and maybe how BrianSnat can hook up with us.
+Team Rampant Lion Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 I may be able to squeek in participation after all, at least until noon. Do you think you could complete the first loop by then? Weather update: Hurricane Frances appears to poop out by Friday, could be a nice weekend after all. This is good as I plan to drop another couple caches in the Sparta Edison WMA this weekend so Avroair can set up his group hunt there.
+fosterbass Posted September 8, 2004 Posted September 8, 2004 I'm not even going to say yes or no anymore. I stopped RSVP'ing too. Seems like every time I said I'd be at an event or group hike, something came up. When I keep quet, I usually show up.
mortonfox Posted September 8, 2004 Posted September 8, 2004 I stopped RSVP'ing too. Seems like every time I said I'd be at an event or group hike, something came up. When I keep quet, I usually show up. I don't even show up. I just time it correctly to run into you guys on the trail.
+Squealy Posted September 9, 2004 Posted September 9, 2004 What are the plans for the second loop up at Bear Mtn - looks like Cz is in - barring any major rain - then I am out too. I need to start looking at cache sheets and whatnot. Hey Avro, is Mrs. Avro coming?
+avroair Posted September 9, 2004 Author Posted September 9, 2004 Mrs Avro is trying to skip out. Not sure about the second loop, I will figure out both with trail guides tonight. But there looks to be some nice trails around Bear Mtn. Hey Squealy, You're the one with the Harriman book!!!
+avroair Posted September 9, 2004 Author Posted September 9, 2004 Okay, I have mapped out a route with little bushwhacking for the morning loop. Afternoon loop tk. Parking at Tiorati Brook Road * Red cross (Red blaze) trail, north 1. cassidy * Continue along Red Cross trail to Beech (Blue blaze) 2. Tiorati Brook Road * Continue down Ranger road to Nickel Mine 3. Nickel Mine * Backtrack along ranger road, take Beech southwest (Blue blaze) 4. Beech Trail 5. brokedown palace 6. freedom fighters * Continue along Rockhouse Mtn ranger road to an unmarked ranger road * Pick up the Red Cross trail, past Hasenclever Mine and back to the lot To do: 1. Mac-28 Irish Mountain 2. Shelters of Harriman: Big Hill 3. The Mystery Cache 1 We will have to park at alternate lots. * Total trip should be about: 4.5 miles, if we start at 9 a.m. grab the other 3 then head up to Bear Mountain for afternoon trek by 12:30 - 1 p.m.
+avroair Posted September 10, 2004 Author Posted September 10, 2004 Afternoon Hike. Parking at: N 41 17.318 W 074 01.404 * Hike down bike trail to Appalachian trail 1. Bike Trail number 2 2. Anthony Wayne Trails no. 2 3. Beechy Bottom Road 4. Cat's Elbow * Take Ramapo Dunderberg (red blaze) 5. Lost in the Ozone 6. Trepidation * Continue on Ramapo Dunderberg (red blaze) 7. The Pavement Ends 8. Break dem Bones - this is going to suck! * Come back down to pleasant valley road 9. Herbert Mine 10. Shelters of Harriman: West Mountain * Backtrack and take Timp Tourne to White blaze back to the car.
+Team DEMP Posted September 10, 2004 Posted September 10, 2004 Looking at the afternoon hike in Topo with a Harriman overlay and the caches, I think we might be better doing them in the following order: * Hike down bike trail to Appalachian trail 1. Bike Trail number 2 (saving the other nearby ones that appear to be off woods roads for the end as they are easier). 2. Cat's Elbow 3. Lost in the Ozone 4. Trepidation 5. Break dem Bones So far it's just a straight out hike with no backtracking. Backtrack a bit and take a woods road shortcut to the next trail 6. The Pavement Ends Backtrack a bit and again take a woods road shortcut to 7. Herbert Mine Then either a pretty good backtrack and out again (or a significant bushwhack) to 8. Shelters of Harriman: West Mountain Then from there it might make the most sense to follow the Blue trail north and catch the AT back toward the lot and pick up the 2 remaining caches that are off woods roads 9. Beechy Bottom Road 10. Anthony Wayne Trails no. 2 Here's a picture of how it looks in Topo with the trail overlay I found on the web:
+Skully & Mulder et al. Posted September 10, 2004 Posted September 10, 2004 Regarding Saturday's hike - my head is spinning from all the options - is there a morning hike then an afternoon hike planned?. I could be there from the crack of dawn, but only till 1:30 PM - even if it was from 9-1ish that would be 4 hours. Let me know if anyone is planning on going out in the AM.
+Team Rampant Lion Posted September 10, 2004 Posted September 10, 2004 Regarding Saturday's hike - my head is spinning from all the options - is there a morning hike then an afternoon hike planned?. I could be there from the crack of dawn, but only till 1:30 PM - even if it was from 9-1ish that would be 4 hours. Let me know if anyone is planning on going out in the AM. We're out only in the AM as well. 9-12:30 is my limit. Clarify which set is that time period and we're there!
+Rattlehead Posted September 10, 2004 Posted September 10, 2004 My son's first soccer game is Sat. afternoon, so I'd only be able to hike in the AM.
+IntotheWoods Posted September 10, 2004 Posted September 10, 2004 Wow...19 in a day!??! I hope I can make the trip...
+avroair Posted September 10, 2004 Author Posted September 10, 2004 The Lake Welch would be a morning hike meeting at 9 a.m. in the Parking area at Tiorati Brook Road. (The more northerly parking lot). I just threw the other out as an afternoon option.
+Squealy Posted September 10, 2004 Posted September 10, 2004 I'm in and so are Nancy and Mugsy - don't know if she will want to do the afternoon as well - maybe the following weekend if a lot aren't? Mugsy would definitely do the afternoon!!! See you at 9.
+Squealy Posted September 11, 2004 Posted September 11, 2004 Oh yeah, Dave - bring me one of those nice pills again (if ya have)...I am supposed to see the sports med guy in two weeks. Till then, you're my pharmacist!!!
+Tick Magnets Posted September 11, 2004 Posted September 11, 2004 Ok I finally can walk again after last week. see you at 9 for 1/2 day
Three Simple Words Posted September 11, 2004 Posted September 11, 2004 I'm game for the AM & PM loops...
+Skully & Mulder et al. Posted September 11, 2004 Posted September 11, 2004 I'll be there at 9 (with just Autumn) - but won't be able to make the afternoon hike. Squealy - if you want company on the afternoon hike for next week, on Sunday (9/19) we could join you. Saturdays will be NG for us for the next few weeks.
+macatac1961 Posted September 11, 2004 Posted September 11, 2004 Have fun folks, there are some cool caches on that list. If you hit them all you'll sleep well tomorrow night. I'm gonna hit the other side of the river for some then maybe catch up to you via radio in the afternoon. Neil, let's try that again... keep your radio on if you can. Mines in my pack already so I won't forget it this time. Just towards the end of the AM jaunt anyway. If not, I'll catch up to you another time. Thanks for the open invite Avro.
+ergo46 Posted September 11, 2004 Posted September 11, 2004 What are the parking coordinates of the start point.
+JMBella Posted September 11, 2004 Posted September 11, 2004 OK, I'm definately in for at least the AM hike and probably the afternoon as well. See ya at 9!
+JMBella Posted September 11, 2004 Posted September 11, 2004 (edited) Yeah, parking coords would be good or at least the street were starting on. Anyone? edit: Parking at Tiorati Brook Road* Red cross (Red blaze) trail, north 1. cassidy There it was the whole time... Looks like Pallisades to Exit 16, correct? BTW, is that cassidy as in FAT Cassidy from the Ribs event? Edited September 11, 2004 by JMBella
Three Simple Words Posted September 11, 2004 Posted September 11, 2004 What are the parking coordinates for the 0900 group hike????
+Team DEMP Posted September 11, 2004 Posted September 11, 2004 What are the parking coordinates for the 0900 group hike???? Loking at the cache page for the nearby cache, the coords posted are: Go to the trail head parking at N 41 15.192 W 074 03.982 See ya all at 9 or before (or after for Avroair )
+avroair Posted September 11, 2004 Author Posted September 11, 2004 Well, we all parked at the wrong lot, but we managed a decent 8.3 miles and 7 caches today... (I am talking about me and Dave!). Thanks for attending! Next weeks group hike will be in Rome.
+Team DEMP Posted September 11, 2004 Posted September 11, 2004 Actually, my tracks show 8.75 mi including the Mac-28 cache we did at the end (which added 1.15 mi). Nice seeing everyone again and meeting Allez Comp for the first time. The weather was beautiful though the bugs really started to get nasty at the Cassidy cache. At least we could get out of there quick. Oh, no, we needed to search for something someone lost At least it was found, like most caches, with "just one more look". Since we didn't get to do the caches in Bear Mtn we picked for the afternoon, we'll have to twist everyone's arm again to get back out there at a later date. Enjoy the rest of your weekend all!
+JMBella Posted September 11, 2004 Posted September 11, 2004 Had a blast today as usual. It was fun making fun of everyone's "favorite" cacher. See everyone next time. Thanks Avro for getting it started.
+Tick Magnets Posted September 11, 2004 Posted September 11, 2004 Thanks again Avro for setting up another great hike! We had a blast! I loaned someone a dog leash??? I forgot which dog
+Skully & Mulder et al. Posted September 12, 2004 Posted September 12, 2004 (edited) Nice to see everyone again as well as meeting some new cachers. As always, it was great hiking as a group - there is plenty of stuff to talk about - it makes the time (and distance) fly by. Thanks Avroair for suggesting this hike and thanks to Team DEMP for mapping out this whole thing. Edited September 12, 2004 by Skully & Mulder et al.
+Rattlehead Posted September 12, 2004 Posted September 12, 2004 Had a good time traipsing about the woods with the group today.
+JMBella Posted September 12, 2004 Posted September 12, 2004 Thanks again Avro for setting up another great hike! We had a blast! I loaned someone a dog leash??? I forgot which dog Mugsy. (Squealy and Cz) Don't worry, Mugsy is good people, you'll get it back.
+JMBella Posted September 12, 2004 Posted September 12, 2004 Just submitted the cache page for Tiorat Falls, the new cache that was hidden today. Is everyone that found it a premium member?
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