Streets & Trips 2005

[+Hard Oiler]

Picked up the 2005 version today. Looks to be a significant improvement over 2003, at least in my part of Ontario. A lot of the gaps have been filled in, there are now street names in smaller communities where they were missing in the previous version. Some railroads and rivers have appeared although there are still some significant ones missing. More POI's but certainly not comprehensive (no Tim Hortons around here!)

 

Haven't tried it but it looks like the GPS tracking interface has been upgraded as well.

 

For $49.95 with a $15 rebate (Future Shop) so far it looks to be worth upgrading.

 

Data supplier is now Navteq

[+PDOP's]

HardOiler

 

Haven't tried it but it looks like the GPS tracking interface has been upgraded as well.

 

Read some posts on the newsgroups today that say that it now supports the "Track Up" option (up is the direction you're travelling) when tracking your position with GPS connected.

 

Could you check Vancouver Island for Hwy 19? The new four lane highway has never been shown although it's several years old.

[+Hard Oiler]

Highway 19 is there. I've shown a bit below - was this missing before? I also discovered that there are now a lot of Tim Hortons in Canada - just that the default doesn't show them. However my local one still isn't Tried the routing for a trip tomorrow. It seemed to pick a good one. We'll see how good it is tomorrow.

 

[+PDOP's]

Highway 19 is there. I've shown a bit below - was this missing before?

 

It was missing from the 2003 and 2004 versions. I just got the 2004 version this spring so I think I'll wait a couple of more years before I upgrade again.

[+Team GPSaxophone]

Summer's not even over and they're selling the 2005 version? Sheesh!

[+Insp Gadget]

Any idea how much the version is with the included GPS unit?

[gm100guy]

Try here

 

Not sure if this is the best price but they have it for sale.

 

[+PDOP's]

Hmmm. Looks like they have three versions now and one doesn't supports GPS tracking.

 

Looks like FutureShop has some info wrong on Microsoft Streets & Trips 2005 With GPS Locator as it says

GPS Supported Streets & Trips 2005 allows you to find your location while on the road with a GPS device (Sold Separately). GPA device must be running NMEA 2.0 or later to work with Street & Tips 2005.

under features for this package.

[gm100guy]

I was at best buy and they were selling S&T with a gps that was in the package.

 

I will have to go back and see what version it was and what kind of gps was in the package.

 

They are the same as Future Shop

 

[+Hard Oiler]

The GPS receiver packaged with the "Streets and Trips 2005 with GPS Locator" is almost certainly a Pharos iGPS-360 with USB cable. So not much use for geocaching unless you want to haul around a laptop with you. Of course you can spend some more you can get the accessories to connect it to other mobile devices with screens - Pocket and Tablet PC's or Smartphones. Buy the base S&T and you can get the GPS for $99 (must be US$). Think I'll stick to my Magellan which works fine with S&T 2005 and of course has it's own screen.

[+PDOP's]

The GPS receiver packaged with the "Streets and Trips 2005 with GPS Locator" is almost certainly a Pharos iGPS-360 with USB cable.  So not much use for geocaching unless you want to haul around a laptop with you.  Of course you can spend some more you can get the accessories to connect it to other mobile devices with screens - Pocket and Tablet PC's or Smartphones.  Buy the base S&T and you can get the GPS for $99 (must be US$).  Think I'll stick to my Magellan which works fine with S&T 2005 and of course has it's own screen.

I agree that the package deal wouldn't be much good for geocaching but if you were interested in navigating with a laptop the Future shop price ($175 Cdn) with S&T 2005 compares favourably with GPS Centrals $185 Cdn (after $15 Cdn rebate) for S&T 2004 and a USB mouse. Note that the Future Shop site shows no rebate available for the package deal but does show the rebate for just the software.

 

Not sure about the different versions of S&T 2005. There is some information on the MicroSoft Canada website.

Edited August 23, 2004 by PDOP's

[BootPrint]

It looks like Ontario was updated some from 04 to S& 05. But I'm not too happy about where they've dropped road names or complete roads in the rest of Canada.

 

Look at Jasper(AB), Shediac(NB), Lunenburg(NS), Golden(BC) to name a few. These have road names in 04 but 05 they do not.

 

Roads in other places have be completely dropped, Vermilion is just off the Yellowhead Hwy in Alberta. But now it's roads have all disappeared from S&T05. It also looks like they total dropped Labrador in regards to roads.

 

Too bad they dropped the parks/green areas shown on the map for cities like Winnipeg, Regina, Saskatoon and Halifax.

 

Looks like I'll have to keep both version on my system, I wonder if there is anyway to get the updated streets.exe to use the S&T 04 data?

Edited August 23, 2004 by BootPrint

[+Hard Oiler]

It looks like Ontario was updated some from 04 to S& 05. But I'm not too happy about where they've dropped road names or complete roads in the rest of Canada.

 

Look at Jasper(AB), Shediac(NB), Lunenburg(NS), Golden(BC) to name a few. These have road names in 04 but 05 they do not.

 

Roads in other places have be completely dropped, Vermilion is just off the Yellowhead Hwy in Alberta. But now it's roads have all disappeared from S&T05. It also looks like they total dropped Labrador in regards to roads.

 

Too bad they dropped the parks/green areas shown on the map for cities like Winnipeg, Regina, Saskatoon and Halifax.

 

Looks like I'll have to keep both version on my system, I wonder if there is anyway to get the updated streets.exe to use the S&T 04 data?

I see what you mean. Although Ontario and maybe some other provinces have been improved a lot (including ferries like the Tobermory-Manitoulin one) some provinces seem to have taken a step backwards. Sounds like they are using a new data supplier.

They do have a feedback wizard in the 2005 version that lets you report missing places, roads, etc. I would suggest we use it. Maybe if they get enough complaints from Canada things might improve. Could also ask if the data disc from 2003/4 will run from the 2005 version.

 

Interesting to look at places right on the US border like St Stephen NB (population 4500) and Calais, Maine (population 3500). Very detailed on the US side, sparse on the Canadian side .

[ertyu]

From the product descriptions:

 

2005

More than 5.4 million miles of routable local, city, state, and highway roads in the United States and Canada—representing the 35,000+ U.S. and 700,000+ Canadian postal codes.

 

2004

Over 6.7 million miles of routable local, city, state, and highway roads, representing more than 35,000 U.S. ZIP Codes and 700,000 Canadian Postal Codes.

 

Seems like a major back step, I'm suprised they'd even put this in the description.

Edited August 23, 2004 by ertyu

[+PDOP's]

This looks interesting:

Use the Re-route from Here tool to take note of your position and automatically recalculate routes to get you on track.

 

from this webpage about using GPS with Streets&Trips 2005.

[+PDOP's]

The GPS receiver packaged with the "Streets and Trips 2005 with GPS Locator" is almost certainly a Pharos iGPS-360 with USB cable... 

Yup I think you're right

 

Your Streets & Trips 2005 GPS Locator is Compatible with Pharos GPS-360 accessories

 

More info here.

Edited August 25, 2004 by PDOP's

[BootPrint]

This looks interesting:

Use the Re-route from Here tool to take note of your position and automatically recalculate routes to get you on track.

 

from this webpage about using GPS with Streets&Trips 2005.

I find the use of the word "automatically" a little misleading. You still need to press a button to recalculate the proper routing from your current location, it's not like it keeps track of where you are along a route and re-routes if you go off track.

 

 

If you turn on the 'Create gps trail' it uses the draw tools to create the lines, and you can extract them using the st2gpx. But you only can extract the location of each point, no other information is saved list speed of altitude.

[+TrimblesTrek]

I find the use of the word "automatically" a little misleading.  You still need to press a button to recalculate the proper routing from your current location, it's not like it keeps track of where you are along a route and re-routes if you go off track.

I've used 2003, and 2004. I'll likely get 2005 as well.

 

For truly automatic rerouting, I rely on the Garmin 60C. Make a wrong turn? No worries... it automatically recalculates on the fly. I love this feature... I wish they had built it into S&T. Maybe 2006?