+TeamK-9 Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 I know alot of geocachers including myself, have Jeeps. And I know that I didn't get my Jeep until after I started caching, and that the purchase of the Jeep was greatly influenced by Geocaching. So my questions are: How many of you had Jeeps before you started caching? How many of you recently bought a Jeep, with the decision being influenced by Geocaching? How many of you had YELLOW Jeeps before you started geocaching? How many of you bought Yellow Jeeps after you started caching? (Feel free to post pictures) Quote Link to comment
+Quintheeskimo66 Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 I had my Jeep Wrangler before I had even heard of Geocaching. And it's Green/Tan instead of Yellow. But I do have a yellow mountain bike and a yellow kayak that I haul around with my Jeep. Quote Link to comment
MaverickMike and The Cricket Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 I had my Wrangler for a year before I heard about Geocaching. I actually discovered the sport while reading Jeep's magazine. My Jeep is red and is 13 months old and has all of 7000 miles on it. I love it. Quote Link to comment
+ke6n Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 I had a 1965 YELLOW CJ5 jeep from about 1981 through about 1993. 134 ci F-head and a three speed with 4.27 gearing. 50 MPH on the freeway! Wooha! I now own a 1992 Explorer with air conditioning and an automatic. Heh, I enjoy the finer things in my older age. Did I mention the air conditioning? Oh, yeah, and a roof and doors that actually keep the rain out. I did love my jeep back then, though, for getting back into places. Quote Link to comment
+Desert_Warrior Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 JEEPS? Seems like I have had jeeps most of my life! Best ones... lets see. In 1977 I had a 1940s WW-II Auto-Union (forerunner of AUDI) German Army Jeep. It had a 3 cylinder 2-stroke motor. It was light-weight and fast, and went off-road almost as good as a motor cycle. Wish I had a photo of it, but my girlfriend (now wife of 26 years) hit a tree with is in the forest. I sold it shortly there-after. Drove many M-151s and hummers in my 20+ years in the army. H-1 Hummers are fun, but the H-2 ???? Not for me thanks. Today I have one of the best I have ever had. It is a 1976 A. M. General (the hummer company) DJ-5D postal jeep. I have been restoring it for 4 years now. I have it getting up to 21 mpg even with the big 6 cylinder motor and the boxy body. It does 70 mph on the freeway just fine, and is just like a jeep in the desert too. The one problem with it (for some) is the steering wheel is on the right side. It don't bother me. Late one night on the way home my Texas Chihuahua (see avatar) was riding shotgun. The police stopped us. Once they saw the steering wheel on my side and determioned that the dog WAS NOT driving, they let us go. Jeeps - gotta have em! Quote Link to comment
+Sparky-Watts Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Nice job on the restoration, DW!!! Looks great!! I bought my YJ after I started caching. I don't know that caching was any influence on my purchase, though I suspect it helped. I drove a 1985 Toyota 4wd (bought it new), and sold it last October (just before I started caching) with 275,000 miles on it. Started kicking myself the minute it drove out of the drive, and just had to get back into a 4wd vehicle. I pretty much knew I would get a Jeep, and seeing pics of people's Jeeps in the forums drove that urge a bit more, so maybe geocaching did have some influence. I still think I'd have bought the Jeep whether I cache or not anyway. After nearly 5" of rain yesterday, I had to get a mud fix!! Quote Link to comment
+ke6n Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 The one problem with it (for some) is the steering wheel is on the right side. It don't bother me. Hey, you can get those park and grabs without even getting out! I got to drive one of those during my stint as a campus police officer way back when. My father-in-law drove one most of the years he was a letter carrier for ths USPO. Quote Link to comment
MaverickMike and The Cricket Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Just a note for all you guys that had Jeeps back in the day. In 2001 they redid the soft top and the heater unit. The soft top is now almost as quiet as a hard top and I don't get a drop of rain inside unless of course I get stuck out in the rain with the top down. I live in the Burlington Vermont area and the heater works so well I have to turn it down even when its 35 below zero outside. Check out a new Jeep. I promise you will love it. Better offroad in stock form than the old CJs and YJs every dreamed of being. Coil suspension ,baby! By the way, I also own a 2002 Pathfinder for when we desperatley need the air conditioning which isn't a whole lot up here in Vermont. Today is July 24th and we just had our first day in the 90s three days ago. Today it is 71. Go jeeping! Caching too! Quote Link to comment
+Sparky-Watts Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 (edited) . Check out a new Jeep. I promise you will love it. Better offroad in stock form than the old CJs and YJs every dreamed of being. Coil suspension ,baby! That's debatable. There are advantages to both suspension systems, but I wouldn't say one is better than the other. Depends on driving habits more than anything. I've driven the newer TJ's, and while they ride a bit better on pavement, I've heard lots of people say they don't do as well off-road. But, like I say, it's all about personal driving habits and preferences. I prefer leaf springs, as do many of the hardline off-roaders. Oh, and the biggest mistake Toyota ever made was making independent front suspension in their 4x4's. The '85 I had was the last year of the solid front axle for them, and now they are in high demand. IS just isn't a good option for a rugged 4wd. That was the beginning of the end for Toyota and off-road action. Now they seem to be following the crowd (instead of leading it as they used to) and shooting for the "soccer-mom" pavement princess 4-wheeler crowd. I would no more take a 4-Runner or newer Toyota truck off-road than I would a Ford Pinto. Edited July 24, 2004 by Sparky-Watts Quote Link to comment
+LaPaglia Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Dont forget all you Jeep owners. THere is an essay contest going on. Grab a YJTB and have an adventure. The way some of you write about your jeeps I sense a monthly winner in this group. Quote Link to comment
+TheHawksNest Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Which came first the chicken or the egg?? Not really sure, I think I bought my first Wrangler about the same time I started caching, or within a few months. However, I soon traded it in on a newer YELLOW one. That decision was influenced in part by geocaching. I cannot think of a better vehicle for caching. Difficult to get stuck no matter where you go, if you use your head. Can put the top down and enjoy the scenery and get some rays at the same time. Wife will only cache with me when I do take my wrangler. She doesn't like the miles on her Cherokee, and she likes working on her tan. Next one will be the JEEP RESCUE, its getting closer to being put into production. Quote Link to comment
+Cloudchaser Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 I've had about 4 jeeps..all of them since before geocaching, including my current one. Quote Link to comment
+Nazgul Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 First GPSr (Garmin GPS40): ~1994 2nd GPSR (Garmin GPS III+): ~1999 Jeep TJ (not yellow): Aug. 2001 Geocaching: March 2004 3rd GPSr (Garmin 60c): April 2004 The Jeep is a fantastic geocaching vehicle, although the mileage stinks. No matter if you go with the top down/off, soft top, or hard top, none of them block GPSr reception so no external antenna is needed. Just yesterday I was able to park my Jeep right next to a cache, where if I had been in the car I would have needed to park much further away. It's looking like our next vehicle purchase will be a Grand Cherokee as well. Also not yellow. Quote Link to comment
+Polgara Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 (edited) I bought my '97 wrangler in 1999. It was originally purchased from a dealer with a factory hard top, then I purchased a soft top for it. Before I started caching I was considering selling my jeep to get a truck. But since caching, my jeep has gotten me to many places I wouldn't have otherwise been able to drive to, and its lots of fun to ride through the woods with the top off, nice and breezy! However...recently my AC system decided it needs a new evaporator, so I have no AC...luckily I have the soft top, so I can save up for that expense. ...a lil YJ on my sound bar! If it was clear on the day this pic was taken, you'd be able to see Pittsburgh beyond the mountain in the background. Edited July 24, 2004 by Polgara Quote Link to comment
+Beta Test Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 (edited) My first car is hopefully going to be a yellow Wrangler SE. Geocaching only decided the yellow part, utility got me on the purchase. Edited July 24, 2004 by Beta Test Quote Link to comment
+Sparky-Watts Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Dont forget all you Jeep owners. THere is an essay contest going on. Grab a YJTB and have an adventure. The way some of you write about your jeeps I sense a monthly winner in this group. I saw just the Jeep for you the other day. It was a purple YJ Wrangler and had a little horse painted on each rear fender! If you want, I'll go test drive it for ya!! Oh, and send me a check, I'd be more than happy to deliver it to you,too!! Quote Link to comment
+TeamK-9 Posted July 24, 2004 Author Share Posted July 24, 2004 Nice job on the restoration, DW!!! Looks great!! I bought my YJ after I started caching. I don't know that caching was any influence on my purchase, though I suspect it helped. I drove a 1985 Toyota 4wd (bought it new), and sold it last October (just before I started caching) with 275,000 miles on it. Started kicking myself the minute it drove out of the drive, and just had to get back into a 4wd vehicle. I pretty much knew I would get a Jeep, and seeing pics of people's Jeeps in the forums drove that urge a bit more, so maybe geocaching did have some influence. I still think I'd have bought the Jeep whether I cache or not anyway. After nearly 5" of rain yesterday, I had to get a mud fix!! Hey sparky, is the light rack on top new? I don't think I've seen it before in any of the pictures you've showed... Anyway, I got a 1996 Jeep Cherokee 2 Door just a few months ago. It's not quite stock, it has a few minor upgrades and tweaks, mostly just aesthetic type stuff. But we found out the other day that it is actually a very capable off-road vehicle, as it got us quite a bit down a very very rough fire road, I think farther than the trucks it's intended for have ever gone... Quote Link to comment
+cachew nut Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 (edited) I bought a used '80 CJ7 (AMC, not Chrysler) and in no time proceeded to lift it to be able to take 33" BFG Mud Terrain tires. I got my lift with Rugged Trail springs and longer shackles, axles over springs. Instead of lowering the transfer case, I used shims on the axle to keep the driveshaft straight. In those days the driveshaft was accordian style, so no need for a new driveshaft. I also had some longer sway bar links made up and never did change the pitman arm, at the advice of a fellow jeeper. I did add a Hecklethorn yellow steering stabilizer though. All new polyurethane bushings too. After that I never needed to take a wrench to the Jeep, except to replace the U-joints on the driveshafts about 2 years later. I guess that was the tradeoff vs. lowering the transfer case. Worth it since it was an easy job. I drove it for years, trouble-free, and sold it for what I paid for it when I was done. Now I have 2 more Jeeps (Chrysler), a Grand Cherokee and Cherokee Sport. I had these when I discovered geocaching. Unlike the CJ7, these have not been modified. All in all I'm pretty satisfied with the durability of these vehicles. I'm selling the Cherokee Sport, email or PM me for details. Edit:typo Edited July 24, 2004 by cachew nut Quote Link to comment
+Sparky-Watts Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 (edited) Hey sparky, is the light rack on top new? I don't think I've seen it before in any of the pictures you've showed... Anyway, I got a 1996 Jeep Cherokee 2 Door just a few months ago. It's not quite stock, it has a few minor upgrades and tweaks, mostly just aesthetic type stuff. But we found out the other day that it is actually a very capable off-road vehicle, as it got us quite a bit down a very very rough fire road, I think farther than the trucks it's intended for have ever gone... The lightbar has been there for a couple of months. I just haven't posted any pics since I put it on, I guess. I bought it used at a local 4x4 shop, don't remember how much....less than $100, lights included. I shot a couple coats of flat black paint on it, and put it on. Really lights up the road, and doesn't create much glare off the hood. I've heard folks complain about light bars reflecting too much glare off the hood, but even with a white hood, I don't have any problems with it. I've got the two center lights on one switch, and they're aimed down the middle of the road, about 100yds past the headlight range. The outer lights on another switch are aimed about the same distance, only more to the ditches and beyond to highlight any critters that may be lurking there. Combined with the headlights, I've got several hundred yards of daylight fully covered at a distance about 100' across, no dark spots at all. I also mounted my CB antenna up there, but have a cute little bungy cord I use to tie it down to the windshield rest on the hood for when I park in the garage or am gonna be running under low trees on the trail. The cherokees can be very capable off-road vehicles, and very dependable, too. Throw on a 2" lift and some 31" MT's, and you're ready to roll!! Got a pic? Or did you ever get that digital kayak yet? Edited July 24, 2004 by Sparky-Watts Quote Link to comment
+Mud Puppy Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Been Jeepin for years, just started Geocaching Quote Link to comment
+TeamK-9 Posted July 24, 2004 Author Share Posted July 24, 2004 The TeamK-9 GeoJeep: We got it used from a friend my dad had at the dealership for around $2700. We're planning to do some work on it, but my dad's afraid to lift it or put on bigger tires because he doesn't want to spend more on upgrades then he did on the truck itself. Quote Link to comment
+Sparky-Watts Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Been Jeepin for years, just started Geocaching Nice rig!! Love that bumper/brush guard/winch combo ya got on there, what kind is it? Quote Link to comment
+Sparky-Watts Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 We got it used from a friend my dad had at the dealership for around $2700. We're planning to do some work on it, but my dad's afraid to lift it or put on bigger tires because he doesn't want to spend more on upgrades then he did on the truck itself. Sweet!!! Only $2700?!?!?!?!? Man, if I'd only spent that much, I'd already have all the mods I want!! Lift, wheels, winch, lockers.....man, that's a steal, bud! My first choice for color was red, but I got such a good deal on my YJ I couldn't pass it up. Only had 54,000 miles on it and had never been off-road. Traded a fully loaded '99 Camry for it, plus got $800 back. Quote Link to comment
+TeamK-9 Posted July 24, 2004 Author Share Posted July 24, 2004 (edited) Stupid response.... Edited July 24, 2004 by TeamK-9 Quote Link to comment
+Mud Puppy Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 Been Jeepin for years, just started Geocaching Nice rig!! Love that bumper/brush guard/winch combo ya got on there, what kind is it? The winch is a warn 8274 that I bought used. After buying the winch I discovered that there were no good aftermarket bumpers that would fit it, so I designed and drafted that bumper and traded the design to a machine shop in exchange for having it built for materials cost only. I also designed and did tack-weld assembly on my rear bumper, then had a pro welder finish it. (tire carrier will be added later) I no longer have the yellow one. I traded it for a Rubicon model Quote Link to comment
+SgtSue Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 Got my first jeep in July 1973, only 21 yrs prior to beginning geocaching. My uncle gave it to me to use for work and was an ugly green. Think they call it OD Green. For you young folks the Army had Jeeps before Hummers and they were SO much better. Quote Link to comment
+greengecko Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 (edited) Had both the '85 CJ7 and the '54 CJ3B long before geocaching! Edited July 25, 2004 by greengecko Quote Link to comment
+Mud Puppy Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 The TeamK-9 GeoJeep: ....my dad's afraid to lift it or put on bigger tires because he doesn't want to spend more on upgrades then he did on the truck itself. If you have good mechanical ability you can lift it a bit quite cheap. In the front you go to the wrecker and get three pairs of the spacers/isolators that go above the coils. Usualy costs about $5 per pair. Stack them with the existing spacers for around 1.5" of lift. In the rear you get a compatable size spring pack (YJ, Comanche, Camero, dozens of others), seperate your spring packs and the "donor" and rebuild your packs with and extra leaf of two. While you are under there get rid of the rear sway bar. Now buy a set of long-travel shocks for around $120.00, get a wheel alignment, and your suspension is done. For serious off-road travel undo the lower bolts on your front sway bar and swing it up out of the way. With this setup you can run 30x9.5" tires on the stock wheels with next to no rubbing, or 31x10.5" tires if you are willing to sacrifice a bit of turning radius and some rubbing off-road. Local 4x4 clubs or on-line forums are often a good source of nearly-new tires. Last fall I got a friend a nearly new set of four 30" tires already mounted on Jeep wheels for $200.00 This may not seem like much difference, but the little extra clearance and better shocks will transform an XJ into an excellent rig for moderate trails. My old XJ: Quote Link to comment
+Desert_Warrior Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 For you young folks the Army had Jeeps before Hummers and they were SO much better. I strongly disagree. Having driven both in combat, give me a good H-1 over an M-151 EVERY DAY!!! My son tells me the new up-armored H-1s are even better. Quote Link to comment
+LukeH Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 I want one, but I would paint it either field gray or olive drab. Flat of course, no glossy clearcoat. The uglier the better. Man that would be cool. Too bad I don't have the money to get another vehicle right now. Quote Link to comment
+GPSKitty Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 The one problem with it (for some) is the steering wheel is on the right side. It don't bother me. Late one night on the way home my Texas Chihuahua (see avatar) was riding shotgun. The police stopped us. Once they saw the steering wheel on my side and determioned that the dog WAS NOT driving, they let us go. Jeeps - gotta have em! I wish I could have seen that traffic stop. Too funny. I love right-hand-drive. A little dicey when making left turns, but other than that, they are fun. Yours looks sweet. Quote Link to comment
+Sparky-Watts Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 Here's the old Toy, just before I sold it. Owned it 18 years before I started caching, sold it a month before I started caching. Quote Link to comment
+Desert_Warrior Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 But it is NOT a JEEP! Quote Link to comment
+Sparky-Watts Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 But it is NOT a JEEP! No, but it lead to me buying the Jeep.....since I went through 4wd withdrawal immediately after selling it!! Quote Link to comment
+MtnRubi Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 The jeeps came before the geocaching, but they certainly help. Quote Link to comment
+TeamK-9 Posted July 26, 2004 Author Share Posted July 26, 2004 Come on, there's gotta be more Geocaching Jeepsters.. I know for a fact that at a recent cache event, I bumped into at least three jeep owners... Quote Link to comment
+Sparky-Watts Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 Sure are some nice looking rigs in this thread. Nice job on the thread, K-9! Quote Link to comment
+jeeplife Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 jeeps have always been before caching for me. I've had two Jeeps: 1997 TJ SE bought new off the lot (mistake in hind-sight), wheeled the heck out of it for 6 years, then sold it. 3 months after selling it the withdrawls of NOT being able to go where I wanted to set in and I bought a totaled 2000 TJ Sport that I rebuilt. The 4 cylinder was fine OFF-road but ON-road with stock 4.11 gears and 33" tires it was a dog. The 6 cylinder is peppy enough to satisfy both my on and off road performance. I just got back from the Rubicon Trail this weekend... See this cache log entry: Buck Island Cache I associate the term jeeping to offroading much like people say make a Xerox when they just mean make a copy. There are a lot of well built other-name-brand rigs out there (my 1976 IH Scout 2 was a blast)... For along time I had jeeplife.com as a website till the law dogs at Jeep (pre Diamante-Chrysler days) decided they didn't want me to have that domain and sent the nasty letter to me. Out of fear and the lack of resources to fight back I submitted and got jeeplife.org instead. Even though I write this I would have purchased a jeep all over again. Happy trails! Quote Link to comment
+KVOM Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 I started caching this January, using my '03 Rendezvous and getting to some fairly easy FS road caches. I'm now looking to get an old Wrangler as a geo-toy vehicle. There are a couple I'm looking at and hope to have one within a week or two. Years ago our family had a WWII surplus jeep. It was great transportation before it burned up in a garage fire. Quote Link to comment
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