+Tubby Rower Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 I keep reading in the forums about people having backup GPS units. Do you have that many problems with your main unit that you NEED a backup GPS? ....Or is it that you are that addicted to geocaching that you can't spare the time if its broken? I just bought a garmin 76CS and I sold my 72 on Ebay. I really don't see a need to have a backup but was just wondering why everyone seems to have one. Is this just a Magellan issue or do Garmin owners have backups? Quote Link to comment
robertlipe Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 The recurring mental image of buzzards finding my body is the reason I carry a spare when I'm doing a serious hike. Having a plan b is a Good Thing. Quote Link to comment
+Tahoe Skier5000 Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 (edited) 1. ^^^^^^^^^ What he said 2. When GPS dies, you can use the backup GPS and continue Geocaching or hiking while the broken one is getting fixed. This way you won't be inconvenienced. You don't need to get a fancy backup gps either.... Just get a cheap one that can get you out of a potential rut or to serve as a lay-over unit while your main one is in repair. Good backup GPS units: Garmin eTrex yellow ($89.00) Lowrance iFinder ($119.00) Edited July 2, 2004 by vw_ev Quote Link to comment
+JohnnyVegas Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 Why a back up! 1st. Once you have to send in a GPS for a repair you will want a back up 2nd. People have been known to drop a GPS and break it. 3rd. Why not have a second or third GPS. I have three. I have a margellan meridian gold runing direct route software to get me to the cache area(This one stays in my truck). Then I have a Sport track map with Topo software and also a Stport track color running direct route which I will carry dependig on the type of area the cache is in. I may buy a fourth one, one of the new magellans. A freind of mine has 5 and he does not even do muh geocacing, maybe 3 finds a year. Quote Link to comment
+Tubby Rower Posted July 2, 2004 Author Share Posted July 2, 2004 The recurring mental image of buzzards finding my body is the reason I carry a spare when I'm doing a serious hike Do you load the waypoints into both GPS untis? Do you pull out your back up and mark you car's location before you leave? I'm still not falling the getting lost bit. Where are you guys going where a non-mapping GPS would help you get out? Quote Link to comment
+JohnnyVegas Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 The recurring mental image of buzzards finding my body is the reason I carry a spare when I'm doing a serious hike Do you load the waypoints into both GPS untis? Do you pull out your back up and mark you car's location before you leave? I'm still not falling the getting lost bit. Where are you guys going where a non-mapping GPS would help you get out? I load my waypoints for the day in all three of mine, I use easy GPS so this is very easy to do. Quote Link to comment
+DashHammer Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 I use my second GPSr to store my finds. When I'm out and I find a place I might want to place a cache, I hit "nearest to" on both GPSr's to see if it's good candidate for a location. Obviously it doesn't work in every situation. Alan Quote Link to comment
robertlipe Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 The recurring mental image of buzzards finding my body is the reason I carry a spare when I'm doing a serious hike Do you load the waypoints into both GPS untis? Do you pull out your back up and mark you car's location before you leave? I'm still not falling the getting lost bit. Where are you guys going where a non-mapping GPS would help you get out? If I'm travelling far enough from home on a geocaching exploit that a GPS failure (damage, breakage, loss, etc.) would "ruin" my trip, I do indeed carry two mapping units with everything loaded. (I don't own non-mapping units. ) Even though I don't mark the car on the second - indeed, I don't even turn it on in the common case - and I certainly don't try to keep the days finds synchronized between them, I could use it to get back to the car. Even with my short attention span, I'll probably remember the last road I was on where I parked the car, so if I can find my way back to the road, that's enough buzzard insurance for me. Quote Link to comment
4x4van Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 Another great reason to have a 2nd unit is so that when you take a new person with you, they have something to hold and look geeky right along with you! Quote Link to comment
+JohnnyVegas Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 Another great reason to have a 2nd unit is so that when you take a new person with you, they have something to hold and look geeky right along with you! Two geeks are twice as powerfull as a lone geek. Quote Link to comment
+Tubby Rower Posted July 2, 2004 Author Share Posted July 2, 2004 Two geeks are twice as powerfull as a lone geek. What if the 1st geek has 3 GPSr's? I just didn't realize that so many (5 so far) had a backup.... It just seemed as though everyone mentioning a backup had a Magellan. Being relatively young I have not as much to spend on additional GPSr's (I'm lucky that my wife didn't fuss too much about me getting my new 76cs ). I guess I don't venture too far from home, relatively. Quote Link to comment
+geobernd Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 I kept my eTrex Venture as a backup when I got my 60CS. I still carry paper maps I still carry a compass On a good hiking/caching day I might be up to 10 miles from the car on some unmarked wood trail.... I don't want to take chances. Three times this year I already 'rescued' people that had paper maps but couldn't figure out where they actually where... Neither of them was out of water or in panic mode - but I doubt they would have gotten back to their cars before dark without a little handholding... Even with no Maps on the second GPS I can read the coordinates and then figure out on the paper map where I actually am. I also carry a spare set of batteries (I hope everyone does...) Quote Link to comment
+GOT GPS? Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 (edited) In my case: One for on foot, and one for driving, to keep track of each, like how many miles im putting on my Nike's and how many miles im putting on my car. I used to use only one, but it got very messy with the tracklogging, so I use 2 GPS units. Edited July 2, 2004 by GOT GPS? Quote Link to comment
+Tahoe Skier5000 Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 In my case:One for on foot, and one for driving, to keep track of each, like how many miles im putting on my Nike's and how many miles im putting on my car. I used to use only one, but it got very messy with the tracklogging, so I use 2 GPS units. Aren't you the guy with like 9 gps's?? Quote Link to comment
bnolan Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 I have a 2nd GPS so that we can split up when cacheing. Sometimes the girls want to run ahead, or I want to leave the path but the smarter people want to stay on the path and see if it curves back around. Quote Link to comment
+logger&trail Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 We are a two GPSr family, one is an Etrex Vista and the other is an Etrex Yellow. Having two GPSr's makes finding the cache a snap even on difficult ones. You start at different points and work your way to the cachewhere the paths cross thats where you start searching from. If one GPS dies you still have a second one to find your way out or finish finding the cache. When I head out I carry a load of equipment consisting of: 1 or 2 GPSr's 1 compass 1 pocket PC loaded with maps of the area I am caching in as well as 1000 caches in my area. 2 FRS radios (tuned to channel 2, the unofficial caching channel) 1 headband hiking lamp Small penlight flashlight 2 sets of spare rechargeable batteries (charged) 1 or 2 litres of water (on a long hike I take an extra 3 litre hydration pack) short length of rope bandages and insurance paper (you never know when nature will call) spare pen extra ziplock bag and log book collapsible hiking stick portable dog dish for my four legged companions Oh yeah and cache trade items! All of this fits into or on a hip pack so it really doesnt take up a lot of space. The moral of the story is you never know what can happen and if you are not prepared for as many situations as possible you can find yourself in a whole lot of trouble. Having a second GPS is not a necessity if you have a good sense of direction and a good compass, but having one as insurance sure beats getting lost in the middle of nowhere and hoping that someone will find you. Happy Caching! Logger Quote Link to comment
+JohnnyVegas Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 (edited) We are a two GPSr family, one is an Etrex Vista and the other is an Etrex Yellow. Having two GPSr's makes finding the cache a snap even on difficult ones. You start at different points and work your way to the cachewhere the paths cross thats where you start searching from. If one GPS dies you still have a second one to find your way out or finish finding the cache. When I head out I carry a load of equipment consisting of: 1 or 2 GPSr's 1 compass 1 pocket PC loaded with maps of the area I am caching in as well as 1000 caches in my area. 2 FRS radios (tuned to channel 2, the unofficial caching channel) 1 headband hiking lamp Small penlight flashlight 2 sets of spare rechargeable batteries (charged) 1 or 2 litres of water (on a long hike I take an extra 3 litre hydration pack) short length of rope bandages and insurance paper (you never know when nature will call) spare pen extra ziplock bag and log book collapsible hiking stick portable dog dish for my four legged companions Oh yeah and cache trade items! All of this fits into or on a hip pack so it really doesnt take up a lot of space. The moral of the story is you never know what can happen and if you are not prepared for as many situations as possible you can find yourself in a whole lot of trouble. Having a second GPS is not a necessity if you have a good sense of direction and a good compass, but having one as insurance sure beats getting lost in the middle of nowhere and hoping that someone will find you. Happy Caching! Logger My list. One GPS in my truck Magellan Meridain Gold running Direct route Sport track color running direct route sport trak map running topo Pock PC with more cache note than I could find in a year One ham radio in my truck Two ham radios on my belt, (My girl freind also carries one, much better then FRS) Sm. First aid kit 8 AA batteries Digital Camera with extra batteries (Used for notes on Virtuals) Pair of Titanium walking sticks Bottle of water Several pens and pencils Micro caches just in case I find a place to put one Printed out paper maps of the area showing caches Signiture trade items (Large and Small buttons from Bumblebuttons.com Lap top computer purchased for geocache road trips Hotel reservation confirmation number Large brim hat Deet Non polarized sunglasses Binoculars Flashlight and head lamp Compass Edited July 3, 2004 by JohnnyVegas Quote Link to comment
+leatherman Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 BACKUP is just the lie you tell your wife when you get another GPSr. I can't say that anymore. Quote Link to comment
+JohnnyVegas Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 Didn't know you could put a cup holder on a motorcycle!. That is a very important geocaching tool. Quote Link to comment
+leatherman Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 Didn't know you could put a cup holder on a motorcycle!. That is a very important geocaching tool. Yup. The best thing about a full fairing is that I can wear an open face helmet. Quote Link to comment
+TotemLake Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 I keep reading in the forums about people having backup GPS units. Do you have that many problems with your main unit that you NEED a backup GPS? ....Or is it that you are that addicted to geocaching that you can't spare the time if its broken? I just bought a garmin 76CS and I sold my 72 on Ebay. I really don't see a need to have a backup but was just wondering why everyone seems to have one. Is this just a Magellan issue or do Garmin owners have backups? A lesson recently learned... A backup GPS is handy to have when you're drying out your primary one. Quote Link to comment
+Teach2Learn Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 I keep reading in the forums about people having backup GPS units. Do you have that many problems with your main unit that you NEED a backup GPS? ....Or is it that you are that addicted to geocaching that you can't spare the time if its broken? I just bought a garmin 76CS and I sold my 72 on Ebay. I really don't see a need to have a backup but was just wondering why everyone seems to have one. Is this just a Magellan issue or do Garmin owners have backups? I don't think it's a Garmin vs. Magellan issue. In my case, my Magellan Meridian Platinum has worked wonderfully for a year now with no need for repair, at least not yet. However, I can see why those who already use Garmin would want to stick with them. Unless it's a major upgrade, it doesn't make sense to change to another brand of GPSr when you're already familiar with the screens and functions of the first. As JohnnyVegas stated in another thread: "Having been a GPS retailer for many years, going back to the first consumer GPS (the Magellan trail blazer), both Garmin and Magellan GPSr can end up (needing) repairs. Think(ing) that owning a Garmin will keep you from ever having to get it repaired (would be) leading yourself down the road of disapointment." --edited information in parentheses added for clarity Repair issues arise with either brand, sometimes depending on the model, sometimes due to owner carelessness or accident. If you do a forum search, you'll see many repair issues regarding the two major brands and many others. The backup may also teach you a new trick or two if they've tweaked the technology. Quote Link to comment
+JeepCachr Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 Often its not worth selling your GPS when you get a new one so I would venture to say most people end up with backup units after upgrading. Quote Link to comment
+pcmike Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 I don't think everyone really has a "backup" so much as they have units that became "unused" when they got a new unit, if you get what I'm saying. I doubt someone went out and bought two GPS' at one time and marked one "backup." It's just something that ends up happening when you upgrade. Quote Link to comment
+Tahoe Skier5000 Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 I don't think everyone really has a "backup" so much as they have units that became "unused" when they got a new unit, if you get what I'm saying. I doubt someone went out and bought two GPS' at one time and marked one "backup." It's just something that ends up happening when you upgrade. I guess I'm one of the "different" ones... I bought two GPS's and dedicated one as a backup. Quote Link to comment
+Team Shibby Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 I used to have a backup, but I lost it! Chances are that when I buy a new receiver I would not sell my old one. Most folks sell theirs to recover some of the money they spent buying the new one, while electronics junkies (such as myself) would have no problem owning multiple GPSrs. Kar Quote Link to comment
+Tubby Rower Posted July 8, 2004 Author Share Posted July 8, 2004 A backup GPS is handy to have when you're drying out your primary one. The 76cs is water tight & floats. I tested out the floating part in a creek. I guess I can see everyones reasoning except leatherman's...that's just crazy. Do you have a favorite, leatherman? Quote Link to comment
MSSP Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 I think this is a good idea. I'm new to the game but can already see the need for more than one GPS for my personal use. I started with a Meridian Gold but was unhappy with the size/shape of it for basic use. I took it back and bought an Explorist 200 which I love for the size and shape, not to mention the new 14 channel reciever (but I'm returning). I really want the ability to upload/download to the unit. Plus in the vehicle I want a decent size unit with a color display. But when I'm out I want something pocket sized pointing me in the direction I need to go. I CANT DECIDE!!!! So what I have done is purchased a Garmin eTrex Legend from http://www.campingworld.com for $99.95 plus $1 for shipping. The Legend is a more than adequate gps for on and off road from what I hear and should meet my needs fine (especially at that price!!). This will be my backup and out of car unit. Next purchase will probably be a 60C or 76C for all around (mostly vehicle) use. M Quote Link to comment
+WeatherMaker Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 After recently purchasing a 60c, I took the "altruistic" approach and loaned my Garmin 12 to a GPSr-less friend. Works as good as the day I got it (actually better, with firmware upgrades). So, technically I have a backup, but it's 1500 miles away. Quote Link to comment
hangman67 Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 After 8 days in to my new Meridian Gold something went haywire.. Still have not been able to figure a fix and I am a Tacoma person here in PA.. My plans were to geocache + keep myself travel loss free. Tomorrow I will be dropping into a local store to grab a little Etrex so my 27 day vacation is not a total wash.. I would highly recomend a back up. besides over the past 2773 miles I have got the whole family interested enough that I may have to get each of them a little yellow trex so they stop asking to use mine. Quote Link to comment
daetripper Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 My backup GPSr's came about as I upgraded over the course of the past seven years. You kind of get attatched to your gps units and hate to sell them. Quote Link to comment
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