Kicking The Beehive And Running

38.2k · June 14, 2004

It's apparent that more and more geocachers are using technology to find caches, including things like PDA's and global positioning system receivers. Do you think this is appropriate, or is it cheating?

June 14, 2004

Are you and the blue smurf related??? :lol:

1.8k · June 14, 2004

Hear hear! I stick with my trusty geo-divining rod and it works just fine, thank you.

2.7k · June 14, 2004

Frankly, I feel that if you aren't personally responsible for cutting down trees by printing cache pages, you have no right to go tromping through them trees to find caches.

/Just my $.02. Paper money, of course.

4.5k · June 14, 2004

GPS's are for sissies. I too have switched to rods.

Edited June 14, 2004 by Alan2

3.8k · June 14, 2004

Of course it's appropriate.

Geocachers are tree loving geeks;

what do you expect?

Whaddup with you, briansnat?

Are you out of AA batteries?

Don't you try to cheat me! :lol: :lol:

June 14, 2004

Out here, we make our neighborhood kids put a live chicken in a box, then make them stay up all night (drinking coffee, of course) and whisper the co-ordinates for the cache we want to find to the chicken in the box, over and over, all night long. Then, in the morning we release the chicken and we follow it to the cache.

Works every time.

Morning Find the Cache Chicken Release

Rick

2k · June 14, 2004

I can't afford much more than my little yellow eTrex but I have fun. I'd probably still be trying to find caches without the GPS like I did when I first started. You do what you can with what you can get. All the power to you.

4k · June 14, 2004

Frankly, I feel that if you aren't personally responsible for cutting down trees by printing cache pages, you have no right to go tromping through them trees to find caches.

/Just my $.02. Paper money, of course.

Ta heck wit dem dang trees. All dey do is attract birds. Birds poop on my gas-guzzler. I say we cut'em all down. Yeah....cut'em down. Dang trees. :lol:

2.7k · June 14, 2004

Frankly, I feel that if you aren't personally responsible for cutting down trees by printing cache pages, you have no right to go tromping through them trees to find caches.

/Just my $.02. Paper money, of course.

Ta heck wit dem dang trees. All dey do is attract birds. Birds poop on my gas-guzzler. I say we cut'em all down. Yeah....cut'em down. Dang trees.

A bird in hand is worth two in the bush... unlesses you be cuttin a-down them bushes, then youz got three birds... in the pot and all tasty-like.

5.6k · June 14, 2004

Hmmm, kick beehives and running...

Anything like pouring boiling water/oil on anthills? And do you get experience points for that?

Anything that helps you find the cache - high tech or not (including glasses, sticks, spouses, dogs, computers, modems, gc.com, etc.) - is cheating! If they were meant to be found, they would be sitting in plain sight! Leave the caches alone!

June 14, 2004

If they were meant to be found, they would be sitting in plain sight! Leave the caches alone!

:lol: :lol: :lol: Well, there's an angle I've never seen presented before. I may have to ponder that awhile.

June 14, 2004

:lol: I just have to say, you guys are hilarious! Gave me a great laugh to end the night..er, uh...start the morning! :lol:

I think I am personally responsible for killing at least one tree with all the stuff I print out! :lol:

1.5k · June 14, 2004

To each his/her own is how I see it. But when you cache page printers, using company resources/time to plan/print your cache runs, are attacked by a Greenpeace protest on your way to the SUV...don't come crying to me. :lol:

3.8k · June 14, 2004

with the price of inkjet printer cartridges :lol: , a pda is cheaper! :lol:

June 14, 2004

with the price of inkjet printer cartridges , a pda is cheaper!

That's why you print the cache pages out at work!! :lol:

June 14, 2004

I agree! Work is a great place to bang out 20 pages of printing at a time... Plus they have broadband and a color printer, whereas I have dial-up and a crappy B&W HP from a ways back.

1.5k · June 14, 2004

/me imagines the horns popping out as supervisors read this and try to figure out who goes to what name(s). :lol:

Seriously though. Once I went to a PDA, I haven't looked back. CacheMate allows you to log everything in one program, from the date/time of find, T: L: notes, whatever. Plus, it has the built in feature of showing you the nearest caches instantly, much like the 60 series from Garmin. It's so much more cost effective. These days, you can score an old Palm IIIxe (perfect for Geocaching) for few bucks on eBay if you look at the right times.

I've also used Plucker and PalmReader for my caching adventures, each with their pros/cons...but all great software resources.

June 14, 2004

I used a calculator when taking the SAT's. Is that cheating?

I almost always embrace new technologies. Saving trees is good too.

Don't forget the batteries.

4k · June 14, 2004

I used a calculator when taking the SAT's. Is that cheating?
I almost always embrace new technologies. Saving trees is good too.

Don't forget the batteries.

I stole the answers to the SAT's and scored a mighty 450........I was so proud. :lol:

I use spy satellites to watch people hide their caches, so I know exactly where they are. If they're too far away to go find, I just fake my logs anyway. Is that wrong? :lol:

1.8k · June 14, 2004

Call me old fashion, but I still love the paper. I do own a PDA and could not imagine life without it, however, somethings just look better on paper. Also, I like to write notes and draw on the cache pages. I just find it easier to scribble on the paper vs the PDA.

OT - I'm one of those guys that still miss the album covers for the old vinyl LPs. Those album covers were works of art ... The trend is that things continue to get smaller (except for automobiles). Which reminds me of my old neighbor ... when asked how he was doing, he would always respond, "well my nose is getting bigger and my carrot is a get'n shorter." Whats a guy to do?

edit - spelling

Edited June 14, 2004 by clearpath

24.7k · June 14, 2004

It's cheating. We should follow the example set by pirates and BURY our treasure then draw out a map. Then go kill other pirates to steal their maps and dig up half the country side looking for the buried treasure. The numbers would still matter since you want to be the list pirate left. It means you get to retire and enjoy the plunder.

June 14, 2004

Out here, we make our neighborhood kids put a live chicken in a box, then make them stay up all night (drinking coffee, of course) and whisper the co-ordinates for the cache we want to find to the chicken in the box, over and over, all night long. Then, in the morning we release the chicken and we follow it to the cache.

Works every time.

Morning Find the Cache Chicken Release

Rick

hehe. YOU TOO?!

5.3k · June 14, 2004

Out here, we make our neighborhood kids put a live chicken in a box, then make them stay up all night (drinking coffee, of course) and whisper the co-ordinates for the cache we want to find to the chicken in the box, over and over, all night long. Then, in the morning we release the chicken and we follow it to the cache.

Works every time.

Morning Find the Cache Chicken Release

Rick

Note to self: Stay away from Castro Valley, California

Edited June 14, 2004 by Stunod

2.1k · June 14, 2004

I tried cachemate out, but find that I like paper cache info better, and it is one less set of batteries to wear out. I can also write notes on the paper more easily than on my palm. I'm limiting myself (for the moment ) to a GPS and a digital camera as regards tech-weenie equipement.

As afr as it being cheating, I think that whatever people want to bring along while geocaching should be fine, as long as I don't have to carry it or remember to bring batteries for it.

nfa

2k · June 14, 2004

I'm working on training a pig to find caches, really......

June 15, 2004

It's apparent that more and more geocachers are using technology to find caches, including things like PDA's and global positioning system receivers. Do you think this is appropriate, or is it cheating?

I don't use a GPSr or a PDA. I call my psychic friend and she tells me where all the caches are and let's me know if I will find them or not.

No, seriously, I use a Garmin 60cs and a Tungsten E PDA. Not cheating in my book. It saves paper, ink and lessens trash (old cache printouts) by using a PDA.

But if you think I am cheating, so be it. I have all this fancy schmancy equipment and sometimes I STILL can't find the cache. So it's not a perfect system but at least it gets me to the right area so I can start looking for the cache!

9.4k · June 15, 2004

It's cheating. We should follow the example set by pirates and BURY our treasure then draw out a map. Then go kill other pirates to steal their maps and dig up half the country side looking for the buried treasure. The numbers would still matter since you want to be the list pirate left. It means you get to retire and enjoy the plunder.

"Being killed by pirates is good"

quick...name the movie!

June 15, 2004

I don't use a GPSr or a PDA. I call my psychic friend and she tells me where all the caches are and let's me know if I will find them or not.

LOL

upinyachit

5.3k · June 15, 2004

It's cheating. We should follow the example set by pirates and BURY our treasure then draw out a map. Then go kill other pirates to steal their maps and dig up half the country side looking for the buried treasure. The numbers would still matter since you want to be the list pirate left. It means you get to retire and enjoy the plunder.

"Being killed by pirates is good"

quick...name the movie!

Princess Bride

8.4k · June 15, 2004

GPS's are for sissies. I too have switched to rods.

Them's cheatin' divining rods. I don't need no fancy-schmancy rods. I use me a forked stick just like my Grandpappy did.

Sn gans

4.2k · June 15, 2004

I'm allergic to bee stings.

No kicking here...

8.4k · June 15, 2004

I don't use a GPSr or a PDA. I call my psychic friend and she tells me where all the caches are and let's me know if I will find them or not.

I keep trying to use the psychomantium I built to find caches, but all I get is lame virtuals of Saddam getting torn apart by a mob of people in white dresses, lottery numbers, the exact date and time of a big comet striking Russia and such. What a rip-off.

Word to the wise: Don't build a psychomantium in hopes of being the new FTF king of your area. All you will get to see is the future and obviously the future is all lame and somewhat depressing virtuals followed by the cold cloud of a comet striking the Earth and then blackness.

Sn gans

June 15, 2004

I only use Astrology to find my caches. It is possible for a skilled Astrologer to determine the exact location of every cache you will ever find based only on knowing the positions of the stars and planets at the exact second of your birth.

June 15, 2004

If geocaching was founded using cutting-edge technology (GPSrs), why shouldn't geocachers today be able to use new technology today (as long as they dont get insider information from the cache owner)?

5.6k · June 15, 2004

If geocaching was founded using cutting-edge technology (GPSrs), why shouldn't geocachers today be able to use new technology today (as long as they dont get insider information from the cache owner)?

Insider info is OK, just so long you get by ESP!

June 15, 2004

Trust your instincts. Use the Force.

24.7k · June 15, 2004

The nice thing about paperless caching is that when you run out of oil, gas, and coal you can burn trees to remain paperless.

June 15, 2004

I use the Alchemy method. I only place caches in the full of the moon. At the cache site, I make a mixture of spring water, elderberry root, burnt ashes from the skull of a hanged man, and a dash of soy sauce. All of this is put into a cauldron over an open flame and stirred with a green Hickory stick. The sick must be green. The steam vapors will start to form above the cauldron and then and only then I chant the incantation of Caligistro. The mist will form images in the ancient Sumerian language. I use the Cabalistic cipher of Pythagoras and convert the message into lat/long. And there you have the exact coordinates accurate to .00000001 cm. Who need a GPSr?

Here is a picture of us conjuring up some coordinates.

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