Mini-cd's

[+vickyb]

I would like to record mini CD's with ONE song from an album that I own. Its music by Kitaro. Is that allowed or would I be violating music industry laws or something?

 

Some advice please

 

Thanks

[+Stunod]

If you are distributing copyrighted material, yes it is illegal.

However, there is a lot of "public domain" music and some bands encourage trading "bootleg" recordings. Why don't you look into that?

Edited June 8, 2004 by Stunod

[+BlueDeuce]

You can only distribute original (purchased) cds. Sorry

[+SnowLeopard]

If you legally purchased the albulm, it is legal to make a backup copy. However, if you listen to one cd, and your friend listens to the copy, then it's illegal.

[+flask]

you're going to see a lot of argumens about how pirating music is justifiable.

 

every time somebody takes the time to tell me they love my material so much they made themselves a copy i think: "there's ten bucks i'll never have".

 

and i NEED those ten bucks.

 

on the other hand, there are groups that encourage bootlegging, and i often leave bootlegs of my own material as signatures.

 

how is my own stuff bootlegged if i make the copy you ask? sometimes the performer is not me, or the recording was never intended for public release. i do not make copies of any of my material that is available commercially. if you pick up one of my bootlegs, you're getting the beta. or you're getting the live show. or stuff i did in college.

[+BlueDeuce]

you're going to see a lot of argumens about how pirating music is justifiable.

 

every time somebody takes the time to tell me they love my material so much they made themselves a copy i think: "there's ten bucks i'll never have".

 

and i NEED those ten bucks.

 

on the other hand, there are groups that encourage bootlegging, and i often leave bootlegs of my own material as signatures.

 

how is my own stuff bootlegged if i make the copy you ask? sometimes the performer is not me, or the recording was never intended for public release. i do not make copies of any of my material that is available commercially. if you pick up one of my bootlegs, you're getting the beta. or you're getting the live show. or stuff i did in college.

So do you use these for your signiture item?

 

On topic: vickyb, follow Flask's example and do some original recordings to distrubute!

[+vickyb]

Thank you much everyone.

 

I was planning to record one song and leave a note on the album name+artist and ask people to buy his album if they like the song

 

Thanks all

[+Milbank]

Welcome,

 

I would like to record mini CD's with ONE song from an album that I own. Its music by Kitaro.

 

Good for you, but what does any of this had to do with geocaching or gps?

Edited June 8, 2004 by Milbank

[+vickyb]

Just share something I like with others

[+Renegade Knight]

Welcome,

 

I would like to record mini CD's with ONE song from an album that I own. Its music by Kitaro.

 

Good for you, but what does any of this had to do with geocaching or gps?

It's a question on Swag. Unlike Waldo and Clams.

[+New England n00b]

Flask, since this has been brought up, how about a little shameless self-promotion and give us a web addy for your band/career or whathaveyou. Ifhaveyou, that is.

 

I was thinking about using mini-CD's as well, making a Powerpoint slideshow or something. I dunno. Perhaps not.

 

But viickyb still has a nice idea. She *might* gain permission from the copyright holder to do this with appropriate copyright/where to buy marks.

[+Volvo Man]

Unfortunately, it's pretty unlikely that any label will ever give permission for this in the current climate. Although some radio stations don't have to pay for broadcasting certain artists music as it is promotion, many radio stations do have to pay royalties!

 

The best way to do this for trades is to search goodwill/charity shops, second hand record stores etc, and try to find old CD Singles, as they tend to be sold very cheaply.

 

Technically speaking, if you bought a CD single, and destroyed the original, you could give away one copy, with the right copyright notices etc, but I would be tricky to prove.

 

Trouble is with distributing Music illegally, the RIAA are viscious and vindictive and would try to get GC.com to give up details of the placer, then, when they are unable to, they will go after GC.com. We don't want geocaching to turn into another Napster and end up being shut down.

[+New England n00b]

Actually, she is a premium member, so they do have some payment history info that I imagine gc.com would be required to surrender, and probably would, as it is an obvious violation of the rules (nothing illegal).

 

It stinks, but there it is. And most artists on a label don't make money off the CD's - they get money from touring. So the people who are after your money are the RIAA & corporate types.

[+flask]

you're going to see a lot of argumens about how pirating music is justifiable.

 

every time somebody takes the time to tell me they love my material so much they made themselves a copy i think: "there's ten bucks i'll never have".

 

and i NEED those ten bucks.

 

on the other hand, there are groups that encourage bootlegging, and i often leave bootlegs of my own material as signatures.

 

how is my own stuff bootlegged if i make the copy you ask? sometimes the performer is not me, or the recording was never intended for public release. i do not make copies of any of my material that is available commercially. if you pick up one of my bootlegs, you're getting the beta. or you're getting the live show. or stuff i  did in college.

So do you use these for your signiture item?

 

On topic: vickyb, follow Flask's example and do some original recordings to distrubute!

i'm fickle, so i have a collection of signatures:

 

the recordings, in cd, mini-cd, and MD formats

my pounded penny

various other handmade items (kaleidoscope, painted box, intricate paper ornament)

really strong magnets

[+Prairie Dog]

I like reading posts about Geocaching and not about copying music. There are other forums for such topics.

If you were going to write and record a geocaching theme song, then that could be recorded to a mini CD and left as your sig item.

[+vickyb]

Thank you all for your input. I think the matter has been sufficiently clarified.

 

Best Regards

 

Vicky

[+Marky]

i'm fickle, so i have a collection of signatures:

 

the recordings, in cd, mini-cd, and MD formats

my pounded penny

various other handmade items (kaleidoscope, painted box, intricate paper ornament)

really strong magnets

You have a pounded penny? What's that like? Would you be interested in a sig swap with one of our smashed pennies?

 

--Marky

[dampeoples]

Get iTMS gift cards and leave them, with a note to look for your certain song

[+vickyb]

Very Good idea.

[+Team GPSaxophone]

I would like to record mini CD's with ONE song from an album that I own. Its music by Kitaro. Is that allowed or would I be violating music industry laws or something?

 

Some advice please

 

Thanks

It doesn't matter if it's only half a song. If the music is copyrighted, then don't copy it. If you want to give away CD's, go buy some.

[+TeamJiffy]

i'm fickle, so i have a collection of signatures:

 

the recordings, in cd, mini-cd, and MD formats

my pounded penny

various other handmade items (kaleidoscope, painted box, intricate paper ornament)

really strong magnets

You have a pounded penny? What's that like? Would you be interested in a sig swap with one of our smashed pennies?

 

--Marky

Now I have to know. What in the world is the difference between a pounded penny and a smashed penny?

 

-Jif

[+Team GPSaxophone]

i'm fickle, so i have a collection of signatures:

 

the recordings, in cd, mini-cd, and MD formats

my pounded penny

various other handmade items (kaleidoscope, painted box, intricate paper ornament)

really strong magnets

You have a pounded penny? What's that like? Would you be interested in a sig swap with one of our smashed pennies?

 

--Marky

Now I have to know. What in the world is the difference between a pounded penny and a smashed penny?

 

-Jif

Don't forget the best ones...squished pennies!

[Swagger]

Here's my very controversial thoughts on the matter. Note that I do not advocate breaking the law; this is only what I would do if I were in your place.

 

The record companies are making too much money and the artists are making too little. It's a bit unfair and it ticks me off to no end. All this blabbering that the RIAA does about not pirating because it affects the artists is hogwash - it's their own wallets they're worried about.

 

In that spirit, I would make the CDs and leave them in caches. I would also send (anonymously, of course) the artist a quarter for each one I left. That's probably more than they'd make from the retail sale of the entire CD and certainly more that they get from a CD single.

[+HoundGrrls]

Just my two cents coming from my numerous computer crashes...I wouldn't take a personally burned cd/dvd from a cache. Well, if the skin was really cool I might trade for it but not play it.

Edited June 10, 2004 by HoundGrrls

[+EnergySaver]

Just my two cents coming from my numerous computer crashes...I wouldn't take a personally burned cd/dvd from a cache. Well, if the skin was really cool I might trade for it but not play it.

I agree with not playing a home-burned in a computer ... but what about playing in a plain ol' CD player on a boom box or in a car stereo? ... I don't see how you could get a virus or anything that way, do you?

[+HoundGrrls]

U R right energy saver, I guess it couldn't infect my stereo but I have had cds with skins jam my stereo. So, again, if it has a cool design I might like it but chances are low that I'd play it. Plus, I dunno, having seen condoms, porn, and other inappropriate things in caches, I am gun shy about playing things like that from people I don't know. It sucks but, such is the state of the world (or at least my world).

[+New England n00b]

Is tehre really that much resistance to a CD used in a PC? If so, maybe I'll rethink my CD.

[+HoundGrrls]

hey, don't let me burst your bubble. I think sig items are cool. I am working on my own.

[+Seamus]

On the pro-CD side, let me just toss out that I've never hesitated to grab CDs from caches. They're usually an interesting look at fellow cachers' interests. I usually have three or four CDs in the cache bag, both audio and data, to trade should I find another one in a box in the woods. Admittedly, there have been a few disappointments, and those discs have promptly made their way to the "circular file", never to be found again, but the vast majority have been fun.

 

Most of the time they're commercial audio CDs, with some commercial data discs or CD samplers - typical "gimmie" types that you get for free at radio station live spots, etc.

 

I should also note that I don't go slotting these things into this computer, either. Every disc gets inspected both physically for label problems as well as logically with antivirus software, and even then it's on a second machine rather than my main computer. It's also worth mentioning that if something should go wrong with the label and it gets stuck, I have no reservations about doing surgery to the drive to retrieve it, either.

 

If you don't want to take CDs from caches, nobody's going to force you, but like they say, one man's trash is another man's trade item. More "shiny round goodness" for the rest of us!