Micro In Yosemite Area?

[+Tim in Hollywood]

Hi all,

 

Since I'm not sure who to ask about this, I'll just post the question...

 

In July, I'm going to be staying at Crane Flats Campground, which is about 15 miles from the Yosemite Valley. Looking at the maps, there are no geocaches within 5-8 miles of Crane Flats. Is it acceptable to place a micro (maybe even a super-micro) cache in the campground area? Of course, all of the normal precautions would be taken to avoid unnecessary destruction of the natural environment. This is a campground with restrooms, locker rooms, etc.

 

Please let me know.

 

Thanks,

Tim in Hollywood

[+The Dillon Gang]

as long as it is not anywhere in the Yosemite park i would guess its okay....however, can't place any physical caches in Yosemite. there are a few virtuals and one physical on private land.

[+bons]

http://www.geocaching.com/about/guidelines.aspx#vacation

 

Placing Caches on Vacation / Beyond Your Maintainable Distance

 

Placing caches on vacation or outside of your normal caching area is unacceptable and these caches may not be approved. As the cache owner you are obligated to be in a position to manage your caches, and caches placed on vacation require someone else to maintain them for you. It is not uncommon for areas to be cleared, trails to be blocked or closed, objects used for virtual or multi-caches to be moved or removed, etc.  You must be able to react to negative cache logs and investigate the location quickly.  Please be responsible. This guideline applies to all types of caches including virtual caches.

Edited May 24, 2004 by bons

[+Touchstone]

Crane Flat Campground is within the Park boundaries. I'm assuming that the alert Approvers would catch something like this and ask that you remove it. If not, I'm sure the Park Rangers would.

[+Tim in Hollywood]

Hi all,

 

That's fine. Just thought I would ask.

 

Another related question: Do the requirements to be within a maintainable distance of the caches you place differ when they are virtual? The reason I ask is that there are several in the Yosemite area that were placed by individuals living 8-10 hours drive from the park. While some people may make the regular trek, I'm doubting that everyone with a virtual cache in Yosemite is prepared to do it.

 

Please note that I am NOT trying to stir up trouble with the Yosemite virtual cache owners that live several hundred miles away. I just want to be more clear about what is (or is not) acceptable. I have read the rules/guidelines about placing caches. I would submit that a very large portion of the physical caches violate the stated rules/guidelines.

 

My primary interest in Crane Flats (other than that is where I'll be camping) is that I like to place caches which are several miles from any others.

 

Thanks,

Tim in Hollywood

[+Marky]

Another related question: Do the requirements to be within a maintainable distance of the caches you place differ when they are virtual? The reason I ask is that there are several in the Yosemite area that were placed by individuals living 8-10 hours drive from the park. While some people may make the regular trek, I'm doubting that everyone with a virtual cache in Yosemite is prepared to do it.

Many of the virtuals in Yosemite may have been placed before the "vacation cache" restrictions, which does apply to virtuals as well as physicals. Those older virtuals are "grandfathered" in even though they break the current rules. New caches have to abide by the current rules.

 

-Marky

[+ShowStop]

I believe the closest physical cache to Yosemite NP on Hwy 120 is Inside the Rim of the World. If you can find a local geocacher to maintain your cache, I'd say find a spot along 120 thats a bit closer to the entrance of the park. I just got done with my trips up to that area (Groveland), so if you do place one near there, I'll look for it next year.

[+Hemlock]

As the reviewer for Northern California, which includes Yosemite, I'll chime in here.

 

Marky is right that new caches have to abide by the current rules. This includes virtuals placed away from your home area. There are reasons for this.

 

There are enough virtual caches already in Yosemite to keep you busy

[+Green Achers]

If there's a cacher that lives in the area (to beat the vacation claus), there are several great areas out side the park boundries that a Geocache could be placed. Since the park is way over run with visitors anyway, it's a perfect chance for Geocaching to educate people about all the non-tourist locations. I worked at Crane Flates for a summer and spent many days off hiking around the whole area. I'd be delighted to place some educational caches out there but then I'd be on vacation. LOL. I sure hope someone is able to lead the way for this wonderful area.

[+Touchstone]

I agree with Bill. There are so many beautiful areas on National Forest lands bordering Yosemite that are worthy for a cache. Just out from Bass Lake is an incredible area to explore in the summer months. I'm not as familiar with the northern boundary of the Park (Sonora Pass), only having driven that route.

 

Further south, I wonder if anyone's considered the Ersham Trail: A 4X4 road sandwiched in between two wilderness area. I've been up part of it on a bike, and the sites were pretty breathtaking. Hmmm... maybe Bill can host a GBES type Rally on that route. LOL. I crack myself up sometimes.

[+Ed & Julie]

Why place a micro or mini-micro in the middle of nowhere?!?

Place a big cache. Whats the cost? few bucks for a container and a few bucks for some trade items.

JMHO....

Ed