Portland Cache Machine

1.5k · June 25, 2004

So kiss me and smile for me
Tell me that you'll wait for me...

Sorry..... we wait for no man! You'll just have to catch up!

June 25, 2004

Don't wait for me this time...I just returned from New Orleans and we're headed for the British Virgin Islands on July 1. I need to unpack, wash and pack again...I'll miss this sure to be super-fun event. Can't wait to read the logs!

3.1k · June 25, 2004

We're out the door kids.......

1.8k · June 25, 2004

Same here -- headed south. FYI, there's southbound caches at the Gee Creek ("Gee Creek") and Toutle River ("Road Rage #1") rest areas.

June 26, 2004

Lucy, Pepper, and Rickie have made it to Portland. We got seventeen caches on the way down from Seattle. Saw Travis along the way and saw signatures from RightWingWacko and Blindleader as well. See you all at dinner tonight!!!

9.5k · June 26, 2004

There must've been enough of you going south. Mt. Rainier area had a 3.9 earthquake this afternoon.

June 27, 2004

I wish you folks had read the cache page for The Singer Creek Cache or read the warning I put in this thread that said don't trespass on the private property next to the park. Enough people did that yesterday that we've been asked to disable the cache. This is very disappointing - that was the best place to hide one in that park.

1.1k · June 27, 2004

We did this one long before any other cachers hit the area on Saturday, but had to work pretty hard to find a legal parking spot. The one we found was just off of an extremely busy road with enough room for about three cars.

It's probably not quite fair for you, as the cache owner, to place the entirety of the blame on cachers seeking your cache as to why it may need to be disabled.

Maybe as you revisit the issues surrounding this cache, you could find a place in the park to hide your cache that has a less-ambiguous starting point.

Perhaps you could take the time to list parking coordinates in your cache page.

-=-

michelle

3.1k · June 28, 2004

Sorry to hear that happened Doodle. Not all trampled through private party at the PCM but obviously some did.

1.8k · June 28, 2004

That is disappointing, but as a member of one of the groups that did trespass briefly on the driveway, it's tough not to do just that if you end up on the wrong side of the creek. We mistakenly walked through the lower field, and were looking for a way uphill to get to the cache location. From the lower field, the driveway looks no different than the paved path -- although it's not connected to the path -- and there were no signs visible from that approach indicating that it's private property. The house isn't visible from there either. We assumed that it was part of the park, and that the driveway mentioned in the forums and on the page was further away.

As soon as we realized we were on the driveway (within 15 seconds of stepping onto it, which was when the beagle started barking and the beagle's owner pointed out our mistake), we backtracked and approached from the upper field (which, from where we parked, wasn't the intuitive approach, and we were surprised that it even existed once we found it). As we got to within 50 feet of the cache area, we could see the driveway and "private property" signs, and the beagle began to bark again. We didn't approach the property boundary this time, and found the cache.

I'm sure if I was hunting this one myself, I'd have made the exact same mistake.

Disabling the cache may be a good idea. A better idea may be if the property owner places signage or other markings indicating the property boundary.

I suspect this isn't much different of a case than when a nearby homeowner was upset with the cars coming and going in their cul de sac, in spite of the fact that the public trail access to a public park was located next to their house. (I think this was the "Elbow Room" cache, but I'm not certain of it). Some folks don't like when we use public property next to their private property, especially if our presence sets their dogs into barking fits.

3.1k · June 28, 2004

Aaah yes, the barking dogs. Elbow room was a cache that had it's fair share of barking dogs. That cache was a very good one indeed. Public street, public park, don't like visitors then you can purchase a home in the country and build tall fences.

We had a great time Travis and I honestly didn't really expect to. I thought it would be ok and that's about it. But in my mind it was a huge success. What's your schedule for upcoming machines?

1.1k · June 28, 2004

We had a great time Travis and I honestly didn't really expect to. I thought it would be ok and that's about it. But in my mind it was a huge success. What's your schedule for upcoming machines?

Having not previously participated in a CM myself, I was also pleasantly surprised at how much fun there was to be had. I was extra-specially disappointed I'd arranged it so that I had one day to cache w/o the group (Friday) and one day to try it with (Saturday) because after spending Saturday running around like a crazy woman, I'da REALLY liked to have been there on Sunday.

I am definitely planning on going again should the schedule allow.

Travis' plans are all revealed on this page!

-=-

michelle

June 28, 2004

The residents of the property were mad about the cachers who crossed through their yard and jumped over their bushes to enter the park.

By the way, the park paths are paved and the driveway is gravel.

3.1k · June 28, 2004

Travis' plans are all revealed on this page!

Thank you Michelle, it's on my favorites list now.

I see he only has 4 or 5 scheduled every year. What a shame that he's such a slacker

We thought about putting one on here in the Rogue Valley as there are tons of caches with very little traffic but I'm afraid we've decided we don't have the abilities of Travis.

3.1k · June 28, 2004

Oh by the way, where is this Tri_Cities??????

1.1k · June 28, 2004

Eastern Washington: Richland, Pasco, Kennewick.

Lovely weather.

-=-

michelle

3.1k · June 28, 2004

Eastern Washington: Richland, Pasco, Kennewick.

Lovely weather.

-=-

michelle

Sounds very doable. Perhaps I could make it a road trip by spending a couple of days caching Boise first then a day or to in the tri cities area. By golly it sounds like fun.

A puzzle free environment???

June 28, 2004

Oh by the way, where is this Tri_Cities??????

The Tri-Cities is trying to get ready for the CacheMachine....

YeOleImposter will make sure that the local cachers have things ready.

YeLittleImposters are already thinking of spots to set up lemonade stands for those who are not used to 80 degree weather at the end of September.

3.1k · June 28, 2004

YeLittleImposters are already thinking of spots to set up lemonade stands for those who are not used to 80 degree weather at the end of September.

80 degrees? That will be a welcome relief to us Rogue Valley cachers. We will be thirsty though. Maybe the little ones should set up by a difficult to find cache so they can sell secrets along with lemonaide.

1.8k · June 28, 2004

The residents of the property were mad about the cachers who crossed through their yard and jumped over their bushes to enter the park.

Ah. Wouldn't have been my group, then. We parked uphill, and didn't come through the bushes that are within 75 feet of the cache. That'd be silly.

Travis' plans are all revealed on this page!

I need to update that page. Nanaimo doesn't have enough caches to warrant a machine, and I'm guessing they still won't even in spring 2007. My no-find count is higher (105, I think). And I need to add Rest In Peace and a couple more to my top 5% list.

3.1k · June 28, 2004

Travis your hair looks better in person

1.8k · June 29, 2004

Travis your hair looks better in person

Thanks. I'm also shorter.

By the way, I just created my first Tri-Cities pocket query. It's definitely a machineable area.

June 29, 2004

Darn, I've already done about half of those including the difficult puzzle one but I plan on being there anyway. I don't know about calling the weather lovely at that time of year, seems I recall it still being awfully hot then, and I grew up there. Make sure you bring lots of water and a full camelback, don't want any heat stroke.

June 29, 2004

By the way, I just created my first Tri-Cities pocket query. It's definitely a machineable area.

Looks good. I'm hoping to be there again. That is if I finish logging my finds from last weekend by then!!

I hope you're right about the 80 degrees YeOleImposter. 80 I can handle. It's the 90s that it can get up there that would do me in.

3.1k · June 30, 2004

How far from Boise is this tri cities place you speak of????

2.5k · June 30, 2004

About 300 miles and about 4 1/2 hours along I-84 and I-82.

3.1k · June 30, 2004

About 300 miles and about 4 1/2 hours along I-84 and I-82.

Hmmm 300 miles might be a bit farther than I hoped but, I might be able to swing both areas at the same time. Do the machine, do Boise.....

June 30, 2004

By the way, I just created my first Tri-Cities pocket query. It's definitely a machineable area.

Looks good. I'm hoping to be there again. That is if I finish logging my finds from last weekend by then!!

I hope you're right about the 80 degrees YeOleImposter. 80 I can handle. It's the 90s that it can get up there that would do me in.

Just pulled this off the Weather Underground for 09/25/2003:

09/25/2003:

Max Temperature 91 °F / 32 °C

Min Temperature 51 °F / 10 °C

Average for 09/25:

Max Temperature 76 °F / 24 °C

Min Temperature 48 °F / 8 °C

Record for 09/25:

Max Temperature 91 °F / 32 °C (1974)

Min Temperature 32 °F / 0 °C (1970)

June 30, 2004

About 300 miles and about 4 1/2 hours along I-84 and I-82.

Hmmm 300 miles might be a bit farther than I hoped but, I might be able to swing both areas at the same time. Do the machine, do Boise.....

There are some nice caches along the way - especially if you take the scenic route along old highway 30.

3.1k · June 30, 2004

caches along the way are always important. I'll plan on doing that. I need a better technique for finding caches on a route, or a more effective less time consuming way. I've been using Buxleys maps. Maybe by then I'll figure out how to do a route pocket query?

2.7k · June 30, 2004

Total for the weekend...all caches combined...110 caches. Didn't get as many as MTB,but I did some hiking ones. One day just had 4 finds...all day...going after still Virgin Defiance Cache....clsoing in on 2 years unfound. I was hoping to put my 100 FTF on that one. Hiked 14 miles RT for that one and 5 K elevation gain. There are three other caches up there so it made for a fun trip.

I probably had 6 or 7 DNFs and one note...poison oak related

Edited June 30, 2004 by evergreenhiker!

3.1k · June 30, 2004

I did 100 total although a few of them were on friday. We did some non cache machine caches. Still my monthly total is way higher than it's every been. Waaaay higher. In fact my weekend total is higher than any montly total I've ever had.

But the main thing is I had fun. Usually when I'm around 10-15 caches in a day I'm ready to quit.

July 9, 2004

I noticed that quite a few folks logged the Willamette Stone 'benchmark' http://www.geocaching.com/mark/details.aspx?PID=RD3152 while doing the PCM.

If you read the text of the NGS Datasheet it describes the benchmark thus:

THE STATION MARK IS AN 8-INCH SQUARE STONE POST, BEVELED AT THE TOP, PROJECTING 16 INCHES ABOVE THE GROUND. BASE LINE IS ENGRAVED ON THE E AND W SIDES AND WIL MER ON THE N AND S SIDES. A SMALL HOLE WHERE THE BRASS SCREW HAD BEEN SET IS IN THE APEX OF THE STONE.

What we all found was a stainless steel cap placed in the mid 1980s.

If you are tracking benchmarks you should log this as either a DNF or as 'Destroyed'

July 9, 2004

What we all found was a stainless steel cap placed in the mid 1980s.
If you are tracking benchmarks you should log this as either a DNF or as 'Destroyed'

Destroyed? It looked alive and well when I was there. I don't think the recovery notes often comprise the complete history of a monument. I'll be interested to see your own recovery note appear on the data sheet saying it is destroyed.

July 9, 2004

What we all found was a stainless steel cap placed in the mid 1980s.
If you are tracking benchmarks you should log this as either a DNF or as 'Destroyed'

Destroyed? It looked alive and well when I was there. I don't think the recovery notes often comprise the complete history of a monument. I'll be interested to see your own recovery note appear on the data sheet saying it is destroyed.

I sure did not see a "8-INCH SQUARE STONE POST" if you can show me a photo of it I will change my log The steel cap we saw was placed in the 1980s - not 1903 - If the NGS did record this it would be as a 'RESET' just like many marks that are destroyed and replaced by another benchmark.

What we saw is simply a tourist attraction placed by the parks department at a historical site.

July 10, 2004

I sure did not see a "8-INCH SQUARE STONE POST" if you can show me a photo of it I will change my log

Since you read my post so carefully, you know quite well that I never claimed to have seen an "8-INCH SQUARE STONE POST", nor did I suggest that you change your log. It was you who were suggesting that others change theirs.

Of course I and everyone on this forum knew that information and advice was not the primary purpose of your post. So at the risk of getting my first forum warning I'll just make a sly and oblique reference to a very politically incorrect joke about arguments on the internet and the Special Olympics, and leave you in command of the field.

July 12, 2004

I sure did not see a "8-INCH SQUARE STONE POST" if you can show me a photo of it I will change my log

Since you read my post so carefully, you know quite well that I never claimed to have seen an "8-INCH SQUARE STONE POST", nor did I suggest that you change your log. It was you who were suggesting that others change theirs.

Of course I and everyone on this forum knew that information and advice was not the primary purpose of your post. So at the risk of getting my first forum warning I'll just make a sly and oblique reference to a very politically incorrect joke about arguments on the internet and the Special Olympics, and leave you in command of the field.

Oh well, I must be dense cause I am not following your arguement at all. I was just pointing out none of us actually found the 'benchmark' that is listed on the benchmark page. Not sure why the hostility.

Sorry I brought it up.

7.4k · July 12, 2004

blindleader, I'm not sure what precipitated your belligerent post, but it was most certainly uncalled for. You owe YeOldeImposter an apology.

I'd like to remind everyone to read and follow the forum guidelines posted here. A very important section of those guidelines reads:

Respect: Respect the guidelines for forum usage, and site usage. Respect Groundspeak, its employees, volunteers, yourself, fellow community members, and guests on these boards. Whether a community member has one post or 5,000 posts, they deserve the same respect.

3.1k · July 12, 2004

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