Clanggedin Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 I have ben very happy with Delorme Street Atlas 2004 and the Handheld edition. I have been holding off on some mountain treks until Topo 5.0 was released. It offers 3-D Topo maps as well as the ability to download the maps to yor handheld. I'm not if the maps download in 3-d, but I will find out in 5 days when I get my order. If it does download the maps in 3-d, then this is a must buy for those who use a PDA to assist in the Geocaching experience. Quote Link to comment
capt caper Posted April 2, 2004 Share Posted April 2, 2004 I have ben very happy with Delorme Street Atlas 2004 and the Handheld edition. I have been holding off on some mountain treks until Topo 5.0 was released. It offers 3-D Topo maps as well as the ability to download the maps to yor handheld. I'm not if the maps download in 3-d, but I will find out in 5 days when I get my order. If it does download the maps in 3-d, then this is a must buy for those who use a PDA to assist in the Geocaching experience. I ordered one also the eastern U.S. for 50 bucks. You can return it if you don't like it. Also I downloaded the manual for it and checked it out. It seems great for the price. Quote Link to comment
Clanggedin Posted April 2, 2004 Author Share Posted April 2, 2004 If you use Priority code 6022 then you can get the entire national DVD or CD set for $59.99. That's 40% off!!! See if you can call them and still get the discount. Everyone else use the priority code to save money!!!! Quote Link to comment
capt caper Posted April 2, 2004 Share Posted April 2, 2004 If you use Priority code 6022 then you can get the entire national DVD or CD set for $59.99. That's 40% off!!! See if you can call them and still get the discount. Everyone else use the priority code to save money!!!! Thanks I just called them back. Quote Link to comment
Erskine Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 Thanks Clanggedin!! That was an incredible savings you just offered to this bb, and it was darn gracious of you! THANKS!! Quote Link to comment
capt caper Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 (edited) What is priority code anyway? Edited April 3, 2004 by capt caper Quote Link to comment
stutzismydog Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 I just ordered Delorme Topo USA 5.0 on DVD for $64.95 including shipping and not counting Calif. State sails Tax @ 7.25%, and I used code 6022 to get the reduced price. Thank you for posting the code 6022 E-Coupon. Quote Link to comment
Tacomahunter Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 Thank you very much for the priority code! I have just ordered mine and have used 4.0 for 2 years and 5.0 looks awesome. Thanks again! Quote Link to comment
Clanggedin Posted April 3, 2004 Author Share Posted April 3, 2004 I have no idea what the priority code is, but I saw the link on their website thought that it may be the same thing as the coupon code they sent me by email. When I went to the site and typed it in it showed the same prices I saw when I followed the link I was given in the email.. No thanks is necessary. Just pay it forward Quote Link to comment
capt caper Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 Hopefully this program is going to be good. I talked to a costumer service person and he mentioned their 3D quad topo 2.0 maps are better detailed. They are actual scanned maps of USGS. And the have the same GPS funtions. I didn't know they had those. Their $99.00 a state. I just hope the detail is good and the mapping is accurate. Quote Link to comment
Clanggedin Posted April 3, 2004 Author Share Posted April 3, 2004 I think you can access those same images with the free $50 worth of imagry. I guess it's $1 a square Km. I'll need less than that for my trip coming up. I can't image how much better the maps can look after see what TOPO 5 can do. Quote Link to comment
capt caper Posted April 4, 2004 Share Posted April 4, 2004 (edited) I think you can access those same images with the free $50 worth of imagry. I guess it's $1 a square Km. I'll need less than that for my trip coming up. I can't image how much better the maps can look after see what TOPO 5 can do. I just got back from the Delorme company in Me. And I got to play with the new 5.0. It is loaded with stuff to do all kinds of things. It has USB support for Garmins also. It does have the best up to date streets also but yoiu can't get info on restruarnts,etc. It's for hikeing mostley. But for $ 60.00 I'll try it. You can do a lot with gps transfers,and map making. You also can buy a DVD of all the arial packets. Buying by the DVD is about $.06 a sq. kilo. vs. $ 1.00. I say packets,because when you download them you get 3 layers of info. 1. arial photo. 2. USGS Quad Map 3.Satellite imageing. Like I said it's quite a sophisicated program. Mine should be coming by Thur. Edited April 5, 2004 by capt caper Quote Link to comment
Clanggedin Posted April 5, 2004 Author Share Posted April 5, 2004 I never used the restaurant data in Street Atlas anyway. If that's the biggest difference, then TOPO 5 is the one I'll use the most. Quote Link to comment
+R4D4R Posted April 5, 2004 Share Posted April 5, 2004 does anyone know how long that coupon code is good for? i may just get the eastern CDs but really wanted the dvd so i dont have to tote disks around with me. how many cd's per region are there? i like how the delorme street program i have has the cd extraction to put the whole map on your pc so you dont have to deal with the cds. i would imagine theres way too much data on the topo for this feature though. Quote Link to comment
+R4D4R Posted April 5, 2004 Share Posted April 5, 2004 how many cd's per region are there? i like how the delorme street program i have has the cd extraction to put the whole map on your pc so you dont have to deal with the cds. nevermind... Each regional edition includes an install disc and three regional CDs, along with the Bonus Imagery CD and $50 of Free Satellite/Aerial Imagery Downloads. Quote Link to comment
+WolfTracker Posted April 5, 2004 Share Posted April 5, 2004 Thanks! I just ordered the East set for $39. Quote Link to comment
+Albino Parrot Posted April 6, 2004 Share Posted April 6, 2004 Dang! I missed out on the cost saving code. I bought east For $49.99 + shipping. By the way, this is my first topo software, but I'm very impressed. I plotted a route, using 5.0, for a day hike and the coordinates from the software matched up with my on the trail coords. Quote Link to comment
+R4D4R Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 does anyone know how long this code is good for?? Quote Link to comment
Clanggedin Posted April 7, 2004 Author Share Posted April 7, 2004 There was no expiration date given on the email I received from Delorme concerning this code. The best way to find out is by calling Delorme and asking them. Quote Link to comment
pitchblende Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 I want to like their products, but the Topo series has a terrible confusing user interface. It is maddening. Quote Link to comment
+Allen_L Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 (edited) I have Topo 4.0 and like what you can do with it, but I agree it has a wierd interface which can make it hard to do what you want. From looking at thescreen shots of 5.0 I don't think they have improved it either. Edited April 9, 2004 by AllenLacy Quote Link to comment
capt caper Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 I want to like their products, but the Topo series has a terrible confusing user interface. It is maddening. I just got my 5.0 and find the interface confusing also. Trying to save and find waypoints,tracks etc. Also I can't find a list of waypoints. They are just symbols on the map. Also the detail is off alot compared to NGTopo's. I've got 30 days so I may return it if the 3D Quad does similiar funtions with GPS. I'm' not sure about the arial. I haven't tried it yet. But it is expensive. Quote Link to comment
capt caper Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 (edited) I have Topo 4.0 and like what you can do with it, but I agree it has a wierd interface which can make it hard to do what you want. From looking at thescreen shots of 5.0 I don't think they have improved it either. I've spent hours trying to make a route and send it to the gps. I can't seem to get it. I get the route with via points showing on the map but it won't send it. Just the two start and finish points with no name. So two points in the waypoint list and no name in the route area. But on the map it has 120 via points showing. It is alot different than others I've used. At this point I don't like it of course.The arials don't show trails at all and I don't care about the other things to see like lakes,roads,etc. Edited April 10, 2004 by capt caper Quote Link to comment
+ifconfig Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 I have Street Atlas 2004, and compared to Streets & Trips, SA'04's interface was cumbersome to use. It looks like Topo 5 has the same interface. That said, when I did finally learn to use it, I now prefer it to S&T. It does a better job of auto-routing, which is what I got the software for. I just ordered Topo 5 with the priority code (thanks!!) because I'm flabbergasted I can get the entire country for that much. It's not only a great value but being comfortable using SA'04, I don't think it will pose as much of a problem for me as it is for the poor old capt. :-( Quote Link to comment
capt caper Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 I have Street Atlas 2004, and compared to Streets & Trips, SA'04's interface was cumbersome to use. It looks like Topo 5 has the same interface. That said, when I did finally learn to use it, I now prefer it to S&T. It does a better job of auto-routing, which is what I got the software for.I just ordered Topo 5 with the priority code (thanks!!) because I'm flabbergasted I can get the entire country for that much. It's not only a great value but being comfortable using SA'04, I don't think it will pose as much of a problem for me as it is for the poor old capt. :-( I'm getting there mate. I been a busy boy. I can make and load routes now, and there was a trail missing on the map so I loaded my saved active track from that hike and loaded into T5 as a trail and saved. I just would like now to find an easy way of getting rid of those large via point boxs on map. I'd like to change them to a simple c1 c2 etc. without haveing to go one by one though them all. NGTopo lets me do that. It's just a matter of learning a complex program like this. I'm still not sure if the arial pic's are worth the price. At least on my buget. I find it's growing on me and now it's a case of how accurate the info to the gps is. i.e. summits, known trails,etc. compared to topo which wasn't too bad right off the map. Capt. Quote Link to comment
+PizzaPizza Posted April 13, 2004 Share Posted April 13, 2004 Thanks for the priority code - I was on the fence about buying it and you made my decision for me. can't wait! Quote Link to comment
+dino_hunters Posted April 13, 2004 Share Posted April 13, 2004 For those who want topo maps for the whole country, try www.expertgps.com It gets you raster images of USGS topo maps (best in the world), for the entire country, along with B&W air photos for the entire country for only $60. Updates are free for life. The demo is fully functional for 30 days, so try it out. It also works better with your gps than ANY other program there is. Basically it downloads the maps & photos from the Terraserver and caches them on your hard drive. If your worried about the Terraserver going away, don't its funded by the USGS. Quote Link to comment
delorme Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Thank you for your interest in DeLorme products. We recognize that many of our loyal customers have posted priority codes on the Internet for discounts on Topo USA 5.0. Rather than using the codes that have been posted we ask that you use the following: http://www.delorme.com/redirect/specialoffer.asp?code=6246 This link will provide the same pricing opportunities to you as the other links and codes, while allowing us to properly track our marketing efforts. Thank you. DeLorme Marketing Quote Link to comment
rbuddrus Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 DeLorme, Nice gesture. Thank you from all your loyal customers. Rick B. Quote Link to comment
bradgigalo Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 What is the differance between the national and region Cds? Quote Link to comment
+embra Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 (edited) Price ($20) and coverage. http://www.delorme.com/topousa/regions.asp Edited April 16, 2004 by embra Quote Link to comment
+R4D4R Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 i went ahead and ordered this on monday and it was here on wednesday. i had aboot 10 minutes to screw with it and it seems pretty awesome and a good upgrade from my oldschool S&A v4 (1998!) im really glad i put down the cash for it! Quote Link to comment
+Jeeters Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 (edited) What is the differance between the national and region Cds? That's what I've been wondering, too. Given the price difference, I suppose it's the same detail either way; it's just a matter of getting the whole U.S. versus just the Eastern or Western half. Actually, I'm more interested in the difference between TopoUSA versus their 3-D TopoQuads state maps. I'm assuming that TopoQuads offers more detail, but how much? What is TopoUSA missing in detail that TopoQuads has? Edited April 16, 2004 by Jeeters Quote Link to comment
+Jeeters Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 (edited) Now I get it... TopoUSA is vector based and TopoQuads is raster based. http://www.aldhawest.org/gazette/V5_2_DigitalMapping.html, plus a few other googled pages, gives a decent laymans comparison between the two. Given that I already get the rasters with ExpertGPS, TopoQuads doesn't look all that useful to me (I can do without it's fancy extra features). I think I'm going to get this promo copy of TopoUSA, though, since I wouldn't mind having access to the extra street detail that it gives which I sometimes get frustrated with when looking at the USGS maps in ExpertGPS. Edited April 16, 2004 by Jeeters Quote Link to comment
+Kitch Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 does this software help with routing (waypoints) caches?? If so how?? Quote Link to comment
+Criminal Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 Everyone can thank me for this happening. I just bought 4.0, they must have been waiting. Quote Link to comment
+Alan2 Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 How does it compare to National Geographic Topo the state series? These have the 24K quad maps from USGS. Are the DeLorme's interpretative extensions of contour lines or actual? Can you download maps into a Pocket PC (PPC)with actual waypoints amd wathc your position if you have a GPs hooked into your PPC? Tks. Alan Quote Link to comment
+SandRaven Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 The benefit of the Delorme is that it is vector based (like a cad drawing) That is to say it has all the lat/lon info stored as data. When you look at a specific place, the software looks up all of the data and draws a map of it on the screen for you (which it does in like a second). Since the info is stored as data, you can add more (like literally adding a new road), or use the data to create routes. Every other maping software is based on storing thousands of scanned images of paper maps. As far as comparing it to National Geographic Topo, I think the Topo USA allows you to zoom down to the 1:15k level, but there is some what less detail. The contour lines are somewhat interpretative as you can see here: (note the scale in the lower left corner 1" = 250 feet) Contour lines but Topo USA also allows you to vie the area in 3D as shown here: 3D And of couurse, your getting the whole us for $60. If you just want to print good looking maps, National Geographic Topo may be better. If you want a map you can add to, use for routing, and be very interactive with, Topo usa is the way to go. Quote Link to comment
Clanggedin Posted April 21, 2004 Author Share Posted April 21, 2004 You can download the maps to a Pocket PC and use them with an attached or BT GPS, but you will need Street Atlas 2004 Handheld also which is about $30. I have then both and they are awesome. I can fit the whole state of Utah on a 64 mb card (40mb) in street atlas. You get a much smaller space for 40mb in Topo. Quote Link to comment
+Amazingracer Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 After reading this topic and seeing the other software mentioned, NG TOPO! and Expert GPS, I think Im going to stick with Topo 5. Because its got more features and i can put the maps on my Palm with SA HH. Yeah the interface looks confusing, but i learn that suff really easily. Topo 5 it is then! Quote Link to comment
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