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We just came back from a trip to Maui and as we were checking in and going through security I had the chance to explain Geocaching to the Airport security. I had a belt pack I usually use that contains batteries a micro or 2 ect. and I had forgotten a cache I had made to be used in a series I had done called The Wylde Life. The theme was bison capsules in duck decoys anchored in a pond or Pidgeons in a tree ect. Well one that I never got around to was a micro hidden inside of a .410 shotgun shell (expended) and a piece of foam in the end to keep the thing in.

I watched their eyebrows rise :rolleyes: as they pulled that out of my bag durring an inspection. I got to meet their supervisor <_< and get put on the National Homeland Security Database! OH JOY! :lol:

They gave me a warning and said if it happened again I would get a large fine!

 

How many of you have made it on THIS elite list?????

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The was waaaaaaay back before anyone worried about terrorism. Oh, I think they still had metal detectors, but that was about it. My friend was leaving and wanted to take his shells back with him. He makes his own ammo. The stuff was nothing more then brass. Nothing live. The airline wouldn't let him check it in. He was rather upset. He's the type who never gets upset. It was nothing more then inert metal.

 

So this is nothing new.

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Don't know about being on the list, but since I fly so often I have lost every pocket knife I ever owned plus a small screwdriver. i keep forgetting that they are in my laptop bag. I have also been selected for the extensive search of myself and my belongings. This even though I have flown more than a million miles with Delta. :rolleyes:

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i have never flown before so i'm not on the list. i do have an aunt that had knittting needles taken away from her. she is 76. i have come to the conclusion that they should have a section in the back of the plane where they can isolate all the women who want to knit on the flight. they can use chicken wire to block it off and if any one of needs to get up for any reason, they have to be escorted by an attendent. that'll keep those deadly knitters from taking over the plane. :rolleyes:

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i have never flown before so i'm not on the list. i do have an aunt that had knittting needles taken away form her. she is 76. i have come to the conclusion that they should have a section in the back of the plane where they can isolate all the women who want to knit on the flight. they can use chicken wire to block it off and if any one of needs to get up for any reason, they have to be escorted by an attendent. that'll keep those deadly knitters from taking over the plane. :rolleyes:

Ya never know, those rogue knitters could knit a garroutte and strangle a pilot, or hijack the plane with a macrame pot holder! <_<:lol:

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The first time Sunshine had ever flown, we were going from Wichita to Chicago to see our son graduate from Navy boot camp. As we checked in to Wichita and walked through the screening area, one of the screeners asked Sunshine if he could check her purse. She thought he meant check it as baggage, and told him "No, that's ok," and kept walking! :( The guy just kind of froze with his mouth hanging open. It appeared as though no one had ever told him that before! :P I was laughing so hard, I couldn't get Sunshine to stop and go back. :P:rolleyes:<_< Of course, this was a few years prior to 9/11, so I'm sure it would have gotten her on "the list" now! I still tease her about that, and if she finds out I posted it here, I'm gonna be in the doghouse again.....but, what's new? :lol::o:o

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Ah yes, airport insecurity! I got to meet the security supervisor too. I reload and had made up a rather attractive 40 caliber S&W Black Talon to carry in my pocket. It didn't have a primer in it, just a hole where the primer went. I convinced the supervisor that I didn't have the rest of my reloading equipment nor my powder with me and he passed me thru. This was a while ago and I would suspect I would be detained and arrested for trying that now.

 

But those little old ladies with knitting needles, now they are scary. :rolleyes:

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Somehow, I ALWAYS get the shoes, belt, wallet and pocket search when I fly-- even more so, now that my passport bears absolutely no resemblence to my current bearded countenance. However, I make it a point to thank the security people... they've always been very pleasant about the search, and I'd rather they did too good a job rather than not good enough...

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I fly out of Hartford (CT) quite a bit. I almost got added to their list by forgetting to remove my phone from my belt. When the guard asked my "What is that, sir!" everyone jumped to High Alert.

 

They do have a nice service there. If they remove something (like a pen knife) you can have it mailed to you.

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i have never flown before so i'm not on the list.  i do have an aunt that had knittting needles taken away form her.  she is 76.  i have come to the conclusion that they should have a section in the back of the plane where they can isolate all the women who want to knit on the flight.  they can use chicken wire to block it off and if any one of needs to get up for any reason, they have to be escorted by an attendent.  that'll keep those deadly knitters from taking over the plane. <_<

Ya never know, those rogue knitters could knit a garroutte and strangle a pilot, or hijack the plane with a macrame pot holder! :rolleyes::lol:

Or worse... she might knit an Afghan! :o

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Some of the new security rules make absolutely no sense. I'm not allowed to carry my pocket knife anymore -- even though I'm the frickin' Captain! But what happens when I have to call for a mechanic to tighten a knob or something (which I could previously do myself with my leatherman tool) in the cockpit? Here he comes, wearing a toolbelt BRISTLING with all kinds of sharp pointy metal things!!

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The first time Sunshine had ever flown, we were going from Wichita to Chicago to see our son graduate from Navy boot camp. As we checked in to Wichita and walked through the screening area, one of the screeners asked Sunshine if he could check her purse. She thought he meant check it as baggage, and told him "No, that's ok," and kept walking! :P The guy just kind of froze with his mouth hanging open. It appeared as though no one had ever told him that before! :P I was laughing so hard, I couldn't get Sunshine to stop and go back. :rolleyes:<_<:lol: Of course, this was a few years prior to 9/11, so I'm sure it would have gotten her on "the list" now! I still tease her about that, and if she finds out I posted it here, I'm gonna be in the doghouse again.....but, what's new? :o:o:(

Errr Sparky? Should'nt that be cathouse? :D

And I would think that you would have it pretty durn plush for yourself with all the time you spend there B):D:D

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i have never flown before so i'm not on the list.  i do have an aunt that had knittting needles taken away form her.  she is 76.  i have come to the conclusion that they should have a section in the back of the plane where they can isolate all the women who want to knit on the flight.  they can use chicken wire to block it off and if any one of needs to get up for any reason, they have to be escorted by an attendent.  that'll keep those deadly knitters from taking over the plane. :o

Ya never know, those rogue knitters could knit a garroutte and strangle a pilot, or hijack the plane with a macrame pot holder! :lol:<_<

Or worse... she might knit an Afghan! :rolleyes:

OMG. I'm laughing so hard right now i have tears in my eyes and can barely breathe!

 

You know, you've got to love what people seem to find 'dangerous' now. My favorite (true) story... Someone went through the airport and got a few items taken - batteries, nail clippers, that type of thing... Then he went into the next little airport shop he found for something, and what was there to buy? Yeah, every item that had just been taken from him. He left the store, walked *back* up to security and was like.. I'm not trying to be rude, but why do you have to take mine when I can walk right into there and buy them again?

 

Yeah.

 

And my blunt point PLASTIC knitting needle is going to kill someone. Hmm... What about a crochet hook? Those look pretty close to what Egyptians used to pull out brains... Maybe some old crocheting grannie is going to de-brain the pilot!

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Slightly OT, but I love when they're doing pat down searchs on little old ladies and some dad wearing bermuda shorts and sandals, while young, middle eastern looking males walk right by. All in the name of political correctness. Don't dare profile. Makes me feel real safe!

don't forget all the little kids they pick out to make their quota.

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i have never flown before so i'm not on the list.  i do have an aunt that had knittting needles taken away form her.  she is 76.  i have come to the conclusion that they should have a section in the back of the plane where they can isolate all the women who want to knit on the flight.  they can use chicken wire to block it off and if any one of needs to get up for any reason, they have to be escorted by an attendent.  that'll keep those deadly knitters from taking over the plane. :o

Ya never know, those rogue knitters could knit a garroutte and strangle a pilot, or hijack the plane with a macrame pot holder! :lol:<_<

Or worse... she might knit an Afghan! :rolleyes:

but that's what the chicken wire is for. kinda like in the movie "the blues brothers". one of the attendants can make an announcement at the start of the flight warning everyone about the knitters. if one of them moves without permission, the attendant can always use a taser on them. 50,000 volts for you granny!!! everyone would spend the whole flight making sure they are knitting politically correct, non dangerous items.

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Pre 911: Returning to the US from Quito, Ecuador, I went through the normal security check with no problem. I was strolling toward the gate when I spied a beautiful, well endowed (mid 20s) hispanic girl walking directly toward me. I had a hard time not staring at the huge image of Mickey Mouse on the front of her T-shirt.

 

She walked right up to me and flashed her.........airport security badge. She asked me (in spanish) to accompany her to a small table and began firing questions, all in spanish. She questioned me with all sorts of specifics as to what I had been doing in Ecuador (in spanish).

 

I don't think I made any lists, but I had a great oppertunity to practice my spanish, and I sure would have put her on a list of my own! :lol::rolleyes:<_<

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Mine came pre-9/11, thankfully, or I might be reminiscing about this from Camp X-Ray instead of on these forums. 1998 or so...

 

The Boss tells me to get my butt to Boston and fix the things that are wrong there. Four hours warning. Run home, stuff a wheelie with clothes, toss my laptop and assorted necessities in my carryon and head to the airport. Security passes me through but chooses to give my co-worker the pat-down and wand treatment. This was in Austin at the old Mueller airport. And yes, the airport security contractor was Argenbright.

 

We get to the office in Boston, where I start unloading my carryon at the company office there. At the bottom were 5 .30-30 caliber rifle shells, tucked into the cloth folds of the bag. Unused. I had been sighting in my varmint gun the weekend before and had used my carryon to haul my shells and gun tools. Doh!

 

My coworkers in Boston absolutely flipped. They didn't want the things in the office, even if they were in my bag. Massachusetts has very stringent gun laws and the anti-gun sentiment definitely pervaded the office. I walked down to the Burger King on the corner and tossed the shells in their dumpster. I wasn't about to test Logan's security for the return trip. I thought about calling the airport security director when I got back to Austin, but I decided that fessing up to something like that might not be in my best interests.

 

Since then, I've bought a nice bag just for hauling around gun supplies and another bag just for my laptop and computer toys. Just in case. Nevertheless, every time I walk up to the security gate on an outbound flight I have this nagging little inner voice asking me if I have any ammo in my carryon.

 

-E

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Mid 80's- In Dulles , saw the security arguing with a 50ish woman in Spanish. i asked what was going on and they said she had attempted to take a hammer on the plane!

 

Mid 90's- in the plane at the gate- Announcement comes on:" Could the person who brought the bowling ball on board please claim it!"

 

I am amazed at what people try to carry on.

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Mid 80's- In Dulles , saw the security arguing with a 50ish woman in Spanish. i asked what was going on and they said she had attempted to take a hammer on the plane!

 

Mid 90's- in the plane at the gate- Announcement comes on:" Could the person who brought the bowling ball on board please claim it!"

 

I am amazed at what people try to carry on.

Back in '83 I took a flight to KCMO on a little puddle-jumper type plane....seating of about 20. On the return trip, two old men, probably in their 70's got on the plane, each carrying a blood-soaked paper bag. I got curious and peeked in one, and it was stuffed with dead pheasants. They had obviously been on a hunting trip and were returning. At that time, these little planes weren't scrutinized, and we walked from the parking lot directly to the tarmac without every even seeing a security gate. I remember a friend of mine lighting up a joint in the back of the plane for the return trip....no one seemed to notice or mind.....I DID NOT INHALE!!!! ......and that's all I got to say about that.....

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Oh my god, someone started the airport insecurity thread. I fly regular and by that I mean 2 roundtrips per month on average. So I go thru security almost as much as the million miler from delta. BTW how the heck do you get a MILLION miles. Sheesh!

 

Anyways, here is a link to the TSA website that clearly details what is acceptable to take and what is prohibited. I have it printed out as a matter of fact and it sits in my carryon right were that ba#$%^# is going to look first.

 

http://www.tsa.gov/interweb/assetlibrary/P..._12_18_2003.pdf

 

Also, you CAN keep your checked luggage LOCKED if you use a TSA enabled lock. Heres a link to amazon showing one. It has the red diamond thing on it. You can find them at some stores if you're lucky. I did, but almost gave up before ordering online.

 

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...glance&n=507846

 

 

 

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Also, you CAN keep your checked luggage LOCKED if you use a TSA enabled lock. Heres a link to amazon showing one. It has the red diamond thing on it. You can find them at some stores if you're lucky. I did, but almost gave up before ordering online.

 

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...glance&n=507846

 

That may keep it from being searched, but it won't keep the baggage handlers out of it. My brother works for American in Tulsa as an A&P mechanic. He says when they get planes in for refurb work, the whole baggage compartment is littered with thousands of little baggage locks that have been pried off by baggage handlers that are stealing loot out of your baggage. His advice is to not even buy a lock for your baggage, as it will undoubtedly just damage your baggage when it is pried off, and also be a signal to unscrupulous handlers that there may be something worth stealing in it. Sad, but true!

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a month after 9/11 i flew from athens to naples as part of a backpacking trip. The security searched my backpack (all 75 pounds of it) all to find a plastic knife and fork (the kind you can get from mcdonalds) that i kept in my mess kit. they informed me that those were dangerous and that they needed to be confiscated (no big deal) but what really struck me was that with my in-flight meal i was given a metal fork and knife (with a sharp point) to eat my meal. ummmmm? :rolleyes:

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I don't think he is on "the list" but my son had something confiscated. He was only 7 years old at the time.

 

And in NYC of all places. We were there in December of 2001. While we were exploring NYC, he would pick up discarded metro cards, and other stuff that 7 year old boys pick up. What I didn't know was that he had also picked up two large nails about 4 inches long. (don't know where from).

 

We were going through the machine at LaGuardia when he was told to empty his coat pockets. Out comes a bunch of metro cards and the two nails. Uh OH! He was kind of sad that they wouldn't give him back his nails, but he also seemed relieved cause I think he thought he was in BIG trouble.

 

Cacheola Crew Mom

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Also, you CAN keep your checked luggage LOCKED if you use a TSA enabled lock. Heres a link to amazon showing one. It has the red diamond thing on it. You can find them at some stores if you're lucky. I did, but almost gave up before ordering online.

 

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...glance&n=507846

 

That may keep it from being searched, but it won't keep the baggage handlers out of it. My brother works for American in Tulsa as an A&P mechanic. He says when they get planes in for refurb work, the whole baggage compartment is littered with thousands of little baggage locks that have been pried off by baggage handlers that are stealing loot out of your baggage. His advice is to not even buy a lock for your baggage, as it will undoubtedly just damage your baggage when it is pried off, and also be a signal to unscrupulous handlers that there may be something worth stealing in it. Sad, but true!

I have always been of the mind that locks only keep honest people honest. But what the TSA enabled lock does is allow the TSA people to look because they have master keys for them, but prevents the honest airline baggage handlers from getting sticky fingers. Personally, if I could get to where I needed to go without government interference in the form of the TSA I wholeheartedly would.

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i have never flown before so i'm not on the list.  i do have an aunt that had knittting needles taken away form her.  she is 76.  i have come to the conclusion that they should have a section in the back of the plane where they can isolate all the women who want to knit on the flight.  they can use chicken wire to block it off and if any one of needs to get up for any reason, they have to be escorted by an attendent.  that'll keep those deadly knitters from taking over the plane. :rolleyes:

Ya never know, those rogue knitters could knit a garroutte and strangle a pilot, or hijack the plane with a macrame pot holder! :lol::lol:

why would you have to knit a gurrate?? you just take a peice of rope out of the draw string of your shorts

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Also, you CAN keep your checked luggage LOCKED if you use a TSA enabled lock. Heres a link to amazon showing one. It has the red diamond thing on it. You can find them at some stores if you're lucky. I did, but almost gave up before ordering online.

 

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...glance&n=507846

 

That may keep it from being searched, but it won't keep the baggage handlers out of it. My brother works for American in Tulsa as an A&P mechanic. He says when they get planes in for refurb work, the whole baggage compartment is littered with thousands of little baggage locks that have been pried off by baggage handlers that are stealing loot out of your baggage. His advice is to not even buy a lock for your baggage, as it will undoubtedly just damage your baggage when it is pried off, and also be a signal to unscrupulous handlers that there may be something worth stealing in it. Sad, but true!

a friend of mine used to use a cardbox wrapped with duct tape for checked luggage. she figured no one would think there was anything valuable in it.

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You get a million miles by flying 4 times a month for 15 years. By the way I am well on my way to a second million miles. Now on to my story. Prior to 9/11 I was flying into Portland for business. A fellow employee get into an airport shuttle and happen to glance at a swarthy (might I say mafia looking) individual in the seat in front of us. He had this fancy wooden case in his lap from which he pulls what looks like a 45 automatic and puts it into a shoulder holster. We also see enough clips in the case to start a war. Needless to say we were silent for the rest of the ride. I can't imagine something like that happening today. :rolleyes:

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Not to frighten anybody, but my dad laughed whole-heartedly at the nail clipper restrictions. You can cut someone's throat with a plastic knife...

 

Yes, exactly how you picture it.

 

The restrictions aren't to protect anybody, after all, anyone intent on getting around them will. The restrictions are to keep the ignorant public spending money on airline travel and feeling confident in the system.

 

In the old days, when you flew with handguns, they'd lock them separately in the passenger compartment--they could do that with the private property they steal, er, confiscate now if motivated.

 

Ah well, at least we're catching up to other countries better security measures in some ways.

 

I think it falls under the "don't sweat the little stuff". (Of course, I NEVER used to check anything, packing everything into carry-ons which is unrealistic now.)

 

Enjoy,

 

Randy

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  Or worse... she might knit an Afghan!

 

hahaha .. now that's funny...knitting needles too

 

My treachorous mother has lost numerous pairs of manicure scissors...she just doesn't get it that they're not worth putting in her bag. That strict german upbringing.. everyone needs a manicure scissor on thier person at all times. I got a gold plated manicure set for my 18th birthday... doesn't everyone??.. rite of passage kind of thing.

 

Back to the topic.. I got back from a vacation in San Fran a few weeks ago. I had a TB with me that after I grabbed it I realized it didn't want air support to accomplish his quest cross the country so I just brought it with me and logged a few then brought him back to NY. Well on the way west I had it in my checked luggage, but on the way home I wanted to get a few pics of it to prove it's flight. Well as soon as I saw them gathering at the xray screen I knew exactly what was worrying them. I said... "Looks like a bolt huh?" They said yup. I said.. your right that's what it is. Then Brandon's Bolt and I got to educate airport security at Oakland international airport what a Travel Bug was and how very cool they are. They saw the light and wished the Bolt well ;-)

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It has been funny reading some of the things that have beeen taken while flying. I have a 9mm bullet that is part of my keychain. The chain attaches right where the primer would go. I have carried it for years never had it questioned and even had it with me on a trip the Saturday after 9/11.

 

I had one time where I quess I came very close to getting on any list. I came through the metal detector carrying a cup of coffee. The detector did not go off but they then asked to look in the cup. I refused to open the top. A supervisor gets called. I then explain that it makes no sense the detector did not go off why do they need to look in my coffee cup. I then said that to follow that logic then everyone should be dropping their pants even if the detector did not go off. By then a couple of security people are there and now threating to take me into custody. I keep asking what would be the charge. Nobody has an answer. After about 15 minutes of this going in circles I need to get going so I open the cup. They look in and of course they can see nothing below the level of the coffee. I am OK to go at that point. So I then have to point out that they now know nothing more by looking in the cup then they did by not looking in it. I then walk away.

 

I don't deal well with people that think they have some kind of authority they get to abuse just because they have a jacket with a patch on it. I guess they don't pay those people to think. I will play with those people everytime. But yes screw around with me and my cup of coffee but let all the mideastern looking people walk by without a glance because we don't want to have some two bit group out there female dogging about profiling.

 

I have always felt they should just bolt the cockpit door closed and never open it until the plane lands and give everybody a gun who wants one before they get on a plane then we will see how long some religous nutjob lasts when he decides to stand up and announce a highjacking.

 

This is not the country I was born into.

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I came through the metal detector carrying a cup of coffee. The detector did not go off but they then asked to look in the cup. I refused to open the top. A supervisor gets called. I then explain that it makes no sense the detector did not go off why do they need to look in my coffee cup.

I was asked to have my clear plastic bottle of water x-rayed, instead of carrying it thru the metal detector. :rolleyes:

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Pre 9/11. I was on a university geology trip to the Death Valley area from Pennsylvania. About 15 students, all carrying rock hammers in check in baggage. Half the students were stopped at the x-rays and forced to box and check in the hammers, and the other half were allowed to board with the hammers.

 

Story 2: My brother used to carry a switchblade everywhere. He left it in his pocket accidentally when going to the airport, and remembered it just before security. So he sat down near some plants and "cached" the switchblade in the dirt. When he got back a week later, it was still there, and he just slipped it back in his pocket and went on his way.

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A friend of mine told me this story.

This family was at the airport going through the medal detectors when the detector went off for this little kid.

Now, normal people would just be all sweet and talk to the kid, but airport security? Of course not. They went on that kid like white on rice, of course scared the kid to death because he was like FOUR.

Now, anyone want to guess what the problem was? Hand granades? Rasors in his shoes? a gun in his pants? Oh, no.

This little kid who has no clue what a metal detector is or anything else had a HOT WHEELS car in his pocket.

 

Yeah.. Lets scare the piss out of a LITTLE KID and not just ask him if he took everything out of his pockets.

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Story 2: My brother used to carry a switchblade everywhere. He left it in his pocket accidentally when going to the airport, and remembered it just before security. So he sat down near some plants and "cached" the switchblade in the dirt. When he got back a week later, it was still there, and he just slipped it back in his pocket and went on his way.

Natural born geocacher. :rolleyes:

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Some of the new security rules make absolutely no sense. I'm not allowed to carry my pocket knife anymore -- even though I'm the frickin' Captain! But what happens when I have to call for a mechanic to tighten a knob or something (which I could previously do myself with my leatherman tool) in the cockpit? Here he comes, wearing a toolbelt BRISTLING with all kinds of sharp pointy metal things!!

Ah yes but when we try and pass thru a check point with them...poof they are gone. Whats the new Super Leatherman these days, $80? A friend left his on when he was going on a field trip and they took it.

 

Ob

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i have never flown before so i'm not on the list.  i do have an aunt that had knittting needles taken away form her.  she is 76.  i have come to the conclusion that they should have a section in the back of the plane where they can isolate all the women who want to knit on the flight.  they can use chicken wire to block it off and if any one of needs to get up for any reason, they have to be escorted by an attendent.  that'll keep those deadly knitters from taking over the plane. :P

Ya never know, those rogue knitters could knit a garroutte and strangle a pilot, or hijack the plane with a macrame pot holder! :P:o

I am an avid knitter and I am currently knitting a rifle. It folds up nice and neat in my bag and it is made of alpaca wool so it keeps me cozy in the winter.

 

Can someone crochet me some bullets? :D:P:D

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