+Harry Dolphin 1212 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Quote Found it 01/11/2020 Looked all over, nothing in the area Quote Link to post
+MNTA 196 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 3 hours ago, colleda said: I deleted this one today. Premium Member 1090 Found it 28/02/2020 We are logging this as a 'find' as we located the black twine still tied in the mangrove but the cache is missing. There was a clear 750ml bottle of water with white nylon cord directly under the black twine. Had a search a few metres around for the 'log' with no luck. Would you have preferred a simple TFTC or the notice of a problem with your cache? Had they signed tftc you never would have known because the log was missing. For my caches if the problem was on my end I give them the option to make the find. Just the other day a CO contacted me about a DNF/NM I had filed a few weeks back and offered the same thing and thanked me for letting him know of the problem. Remember this is supposed to be fun. Whats the harm they made an effort they noticed a problem and helped someone in the future. I've done the same. Would you have preferred a throw down cache or a piece of paper tied to the string? Or from the sounds of it add a piece of paper to the water bottle? I've seen all of the above. I tend to also lose pens specially in brush country. I'll take a picture of a log as proof of a find any day. The beauty of this game is that it is not a competition it is for personal entertainment so if a guy arm chair logs my cache no skin off my back, and I have found a prolific finder of challenges not sign my cache. I do it for the logs that I got today on one of my challenge caches: Yay, completed! We found and signed the log on January 24, 2019, at the beginning of our 25-day road trip from Seattle to the Mega in Yuma, AZ. On the trip we linked a chain of counties from Canada 🇨🇦 to 🇲🇽 Mexico, and got 28 more CA counties. You really gave us extra encouragement with your challenge - thank you 1 Quote Link to post
+barefootjeff 3916 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 42 minutes ago, MNTA said: Would you have preferred a simple TFTC or the notice of a problem with your cache? Had they signed tftc you never would have known because the log was missing. For my caches if the problem was on my end I give them the option to make the find. Just the other day a CO contacted me about a DNF/NM I had filed a few weeks back and offered the same thing and thanked me for letting him know of the problem. Remember this is supposed to be fun. Whats the harm they made an effort they noticed a problem and helped someone in the future. I've done the same. Would you have preferred a throw down cache or a piece of paper tied to the string? Or from the sounds of it add a piece of paper to the water bottle? I've seen all of the above. I'll let colleda provide the definitive answer on this, but I found that cache in 2017 and it wasn't a water bottle. There's nothing in the logs about the container being changed since then so I suspect the thing the "finder" found wasn't the cache at all but just a piece of litter. 1 Quote Link to post
+colleda 881 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 hour ago, MNTA said: Would you have preferred a simple TFTC or the notice of a problem with your cache? Had they signed tftc you never would have known because the log was missing. For my caches if the problem was on my end I give them the option to make the find. Just the other day a CO contacted me about a DNF/NM I had filed a few weeks back and offered the same thing and thanked me for letting him know of the problem. Remember this is supposed to be fun. Whats the harm they made an effort they noticed a problem and helped someone in the future. I've done the same. Would you have preferred a throw down cache or a piece of paper tied to the string? Or from the sounds of it add a piece of paper to the water bottle? I've seen all of the above. I tend to also lose pens specially in brush country. I'll take a picture of a log as proof of a find any day. The beauty of this game is that it is not a competition it is for personal entertainment so if a guy arm chair logs my cache no skin off my back, and I have found a prolific finder of challenges not sign my cache. I do it for the logs that I got today on one of my challenge caches: Yay, completed! We found and signed the log on January 24, 2019, at the beginning of our 25-day road trip from Seattle to the Mega in Yuma, AZ. On the trip we linked a chain of counties from Canada 🇨🇦 to 🇲🇽 Mexico, and got 28 more CA counties. You really gave us extra encouragement with your challenge - thank you The cache was not found. The log was not signed. The container was not a bottle. Correct log should have been DNF with, possibly, NM. The cacher has since logged a DNF. 1 1 Quote Link to post
+Goldenwattle 1674 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 On 2/19/2020 at 10:54 PM, frostengel said: Pen doesn't work (empty, broken, lost in the woods). The rusty can won't open. The logbook is wet and I don't want to touch it. ... In each of the cases I have the cache in my hand and have successfully fulfilled the task given by the owner. cany do you have a problem with me not signing the log? Only because of the rules? (I don't talk about "seen it up in the tree and could not reach it" or "could not open the trick lock" or ....) There are aways the occasional problem, such as the container won't open, but they are only very few caches. Most caches can be opened and the log signed, or attempted to sign. I found two soaked logs today, but still I signed them. I photographed the pale mark and included the photograph to prove I did sign. Very few excuses not to sign and I delete logs without an excuse and proof. I also carry two or three pens in case one runs out of ink. Today BOTH the pens ran out of ink, but I didn't use that excuse not to sign. I found a shop that sold pens and bought one. If people don't sign there is no proof they found the cache. Yes, other proof can be give. A photograph or a very good description, but gees, it's a lot quicker and easier to sign. 1 Quote Link to post
+frostengel 934 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 58 minutes ago, Goldenwattle said: If people don't sign there is no proof they found the cache. Yes, other proof can be give. Other way round: if a nickname is signed into a logbook this does not proof that the person found the cache. Someone found the cache and wrote the name in the logbook (or used a stamp with different names). We have some "special cachers" here (and I am sure there are several "special cachers" world wide) cheating - other persons logging caches for you is the simplest way. So in the end even a name in a logbook doesn't prove anything. In my eyes usually the log will tell if people did my caches as intended. That is another thing: going directly to a multi final (after you got the coordinates from a friend) makes you sign the logbook but not solve the cache. And ....? 1 Quote Link to post
+TriciaG 589 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 On 3/12/2004 at 1:10 PM, Jamie Z said: This thread is for all those smiley-faced logs that admit that the hunters did not really find the cache. Let's not start a debate, or accuse people of cheating or any of that. No names, no links, just the log. 1 2 Quote Link to post
+JL_HSTRE 595 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 A certain statue, and everything associated with it (pedestal, sign, landscaping, etc) has been removed temporarily due to a construction project. The statue is going to be replaced when the work is done (lasting about a year). Since the statue was removed (and thus nothing to log until it's replaced), the associated Virtual has received 18 Finds and 3 DNFs. Of the 18 false finds, only 2 are by people with less than 1000 lifetime Finds. On the contrary, 7 are by cachers with more than 10,000. If I didn't know the town was going to put the statue back, probably later this year, I would have posted a NA on it. 2 Quote Link to post
+Max and 99 2228 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 2 hours ago, JL_HSTRE said: A certain statue, and everything associated with it (pedestal, sign, landscaping, etc) has been removed temporarily due to a construction project. The statue is going to be replaced when the work is done (lasting about a year). Since the statue was removed (and thus nothing to log until it's replaced), the associated Virtual has received 18 Finds and 3 DNFs. Of the 18 false finds, only 2 are by people with less than 1000 lifetime Finds. On the contrary, 7 are by cachers with more than 10,000. If I didn't know the town was going to put the statue back, probably later this year, I would have posted a NA on it. I will never forget the embarrassment when I logged a DNF on a virtual. I felt like an idiot. I think it was later that day that someone else logged a DNF. Turns out that the info for the Virtual was no longer there, so everyone figured it was a super easy Find and kept logging Found Its even though there was nothing there. Quote Link to post
+Max and 99 2228 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 I was wondering why a cache was archived, when the last person logged a Found It. Until I read the log: (Found it) Gave this one another go this morning, found the spot, but the cache container was now missing. Placed a new micro under the rock at GZ, all should be good to go now. Thanks for the cache! 1 Quote Link to post
+papu66 49 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 On 3/3/2020 at 5:47 AM, JL_HSTRE said: A certain statue, and everything associated with it (pedestal, sign, landscaping, etc) has been removed temporarily due to a construction project. The statue is going to be replaced when the work is done (lasting about a year). Since the statue was removed (and thus nothing to log until it's replaced), the associated Virtual has received 18 Finds and 3 DNFs. Of the 18 false finds, only 2 are by people with less than 1000 lifetime Finds. On the contrary, 7 are by cachers with more than 10,000. If I didn't know the town was going to put the statue back, probably later this year, I would have posted a NA on it. Is the cache disabled? If it wasn't, I don't see any problem with the dnf's, unless they faked photos of the statue being there. Quote Link to post
+barefootjeff 3916 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 53 minutes ago, papu66 said: Is the cache disabled? If it wasn't, I don't see any problem with the dnf's, unless they faked photos of the statue being there. Why would someone logging a DNF want to fake a photo of the statue being there? Or are you suggesting the statue's really there but they Photoshopped it out of their photos to prove they couldn't find it? Bizarre. Quote Link to post
+on4bam 1525 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 2 hours ago, barefootjeff said: Why would someone logging a DNF want to fake a photo of the statue being there? Or are you suggesting the statue's really there but they Photoshopped it out of their photos to prove they couldn't find it? Bizarre. You'd be surprised what people do. I logged an old Virtual in Wellington NZ, within 50m there's a traditional we found too and when I looked at the virtual's logs I saw a familiar name. I looked at his profile and saw it was his only NZ found. A reverse lookup of the photograph yielded the original photograph. So yes, some do extreme things. This one was probably to fill his Jasmer grid. Quote Link to post
+papu66 49 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 4 hours ago, barefootjeff said: Why would someone logging a DNF want to fake a photo of the statue being there? Or are you suggesting the statue's really there but they Photoshopped it out of their photos to prove they couldn't find it? Bizarre. Sorry, my bad. I meant to say I have no problem with the found it logs. I understand that the purpose is to visit the coordinates and picture of the statue is only necessary as a proof. Quote Link to post
+JL_HSTRE 595 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, papu66 said: Is the cache disabled? If it wasn't, I don't see any problem with the dnf's, unless they faked photos of the statue being there. Cache isn't disabled because of an inactive CO. People are posting photos of the construction as proof of their "Find." The construction isn't preventing access to the statue; the statue is not there at all during the construction. The Virtual is specifically about the statue. Edited March 5, 2020 by JL_HSTRE 1 Quote Link to post
+Harry Dolphin 1212 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Quote XXX and I gave a good search, but did not find the cache. We left a replacement log in a little plastic sleeve that has the geocaching symbol on it. Hide under a red flat rock. Will claim a find, but if the CO checks and finds the original container, I will change to dnf. TFTC SL Quote Link to post
+on4bam 1525 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) Found it 08 Mar 20 Log by member of German team (5049 finds) Wrong logdate Found it 08 Mar 20 Log by member of German team (5055 finds) Wrong logdate Found it 08 Mar 20 Log by member of German team (4854 finds) Wrong logdate Found it 08 Mar 20 Log by member of German team (4847 finds) Wrong logdate Found it 07 Mar 20 Log by member of German team (12950 finds) Found it 07 Mar 20 Log by member of German team (10702 finds) Found it 07 Mar 20 Cache is gone Found it 07 Mar 20 Archive 07 Mar 20 By CO Temporarily Disable Listing 07 Mar 20 CO publishes picture of the destroyed cache and wonders how people log it (Micro looks like a truck drove over it) Edited March 10, 2020 by on4bam Quote Link to post
+Harry Dolphin 1212 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Quote Found it I was seeking the xxx series and this was the end of the road here for me. Seeing the previous DNFs and after searching a looong time I hung a preform at N.XXX W.XXX for you before I saw your log. I had my older PQ loaded and missed you by one day I see! Feel free to remove it to place elsewhere, or perhaps you like this spot better as it is out of the way of the parking area compared to where GZ put me. 1 1 Quote Link to post
+Goldenwattle 1674 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 On 3/10/2020 at 7:45 PM, on4bam said: Found it 08 Mar 20 Log by member of German team (5049 finds) Wrong logdate Found it 08 Mar 20 Log by member of German team (5055 finds) Wrong logdate Found it 08 Mar 20 Log by member of German team (4854 finds) Wrong logdate Found it 08 Mar 20 Log by member of German team (4847 finds) Wrong logdate Found it 07 Mar 20 Log by member of German team (12950 finds) Found it 07 Mar 20 Log by member of German team (10702 finds) Found it 07 Mar 20 Cache is gone Found it 07 Mar 20 Archive 07 Mar 20 By CO Temporarily Disable Listing 07 Mar 20 CO publishes picture of the destroyed cache and wonders how people log it (Micro looks like a truck drove over it) Probably logged by the same members of the German team (none of whom have ever been to Australia) logging a TB in my TB Hotel here in Australia. It's a number game to them, not an actual find game. (Me, being cynical .) 1 Quote Link to post
+Harry Dolphin 1212 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Quote Found it 01/11/2020 Looked all over, nothing in the area Quote Link to post
+HunterandSamuel 228 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 This is a hilarious thread. I think I found one recently but will not post it to protect the innocent. lol Quote Link to post
+colleda 881 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 55 minutes ago, HunterandSamuel said: This is a hilarious thread. I think I found one recently but will not post it to protect the innocent. lol Does that mean you found it but you didn't? 2 Quote Link to post
+T & G's Adventures 3 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 We've gotten to the point where we take a picture of one of us actually SIGNING the log to show we're not "drive-by" cachers. In "the old days" (ahem . . .) when you had to hand enter the coordinates into a GPS, and then come back to the caches on your computer to enter your finds, it fried me even THEN to find that the names on the physical log you signed sometimes were different than the logs online. Huh? Is this how some cachers get upwards of tens of thousands of caches logged? 3 Quote Link to post
+cerberus1 3369 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 35 minutes ago, T & G's Adventures said: We've gotten to the point where we take a picture of one of us actually SIGNING the log to show we're not "drive-by" cachers. In "the old days" (ahem . . .) when you had to hand enter the coordinates into a GPS, and then come back to the caches on your computer to enter your finds, it fried me even THEN to find that the names on the physical log you signed sometimes were different than the logs online. Huh? Is this how some cachers get upwards of tens of thousands of caches logged? I still load caches manually, and write my online logs at home.... We have a local cacher that travels a lot. They might be in AZ on monday, back in PA on thursday, then in AZ again on saturday. They enclose a pic of the log with their signature on every one JIC. When we cache with a few people (rare), we'll use a "team name" covering all to save on log space, especially if almost filled. - At least one will note it in their log, and that name will be different than online by how many cachers were in the group. A kid that's old enough to break-away from their family's account will also have a different name in the online log, after back-dating their find. Quote Link to post
JASTA 11 4 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 On a simple, two-stage multi: Quote Link to post
+TeamRabbitRun 539 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 15 hours ago, JASTA 11 said: On a simple, two-stage multi: I love that second one - "Maybe you should just give the coordinates instead of solving this multi. Or create an app to give them to me." Man, I HOPE that's a relatively new cacher. Quote Link to post
+Harry Dolphin 1212 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Quote Found it 01/11/2020 Looked all over, nothing in the area Quote Link to post
+HunterandSamuel 228 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 On 3/21/2020 at 7:39 PM, colleda said: Does that mean you found it but you didn't? No, it was on one of my finds that I'm monitoring. Quote Link to post
+Harry Dolphin 1212 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Quote Found it 01/11/2020 Looked all over, nothing in the area Quote Link to post
+Harry Dolphin 1212 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Quote Found it 03/13/2020 found the zip tie but not the actual thing Quote Link to post
+colleda 881 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 6 hours ago, HunterandSamuel said: No, it was on one of my finds that I'm monitoring. Thanks for clearing that up. Quote Link to post
+L0ne.R 1871 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) Quote Found it 05/16/2020 99.9999% sure I found the spot where it was supposed to be... But no sign of it. Going to log it anyways tho and maybe come back and sign when it is replaced Edited May 29, 2020 by L0ne.R Quote Link to post
+Harry Dolphin 1212 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Geocaching Maintenance: Logs from the CO. Quote Temporarily Disable Listing 03/08/2020 Needs maintenance Quote Enable Listing 03/08/2020 Looking for it Quote Owner Maintenance 03/08/2020 Cache was stolen! Need to plant a new one Quote Temporarily Disable Listing 03/08/2020 This cache was stolen. We will plant a new one soon! 1 2 Quote Link to post
+Harry Dolphin 1212 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Quote Found it 01/11/2020 Looked all over, nothing in the area Quote Link to post
+Harry Dolphin 1212 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Quote Found it 03/13/2020 found the zip tie but not the actual thing Quote Link to post
+TeamRabbitRun 539 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) On 3/5/2020 at 5:59 AM, papu66 said: Sorry, my bad. I meant to say I have no problem with the found it logs. I understand that the purpose is to visit the coordinates and picture of the statue is only necessary as a proof. Not necessarily - the point of the Virtual may be to see the statue! Just going there isn't good enough, in my eyes. If I have a Virt that's a painting in a museum (I know, this is just for example) and someone never turns around and sees it, and logs "I was in the room but didn't see the painting, so I'm claiming the find", I'd have a problem with that. Edited June 6, 2020 by TeamRabbitRun 2 Quote Link to post
+Harry Dolphin 1212 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Quote Found it 03/24/2020 Found a tree 3 Quote Link to post
+Harry Dolphin 1212 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Quote Found it 05/16/2020 Doesn’t seem to be there anymore Quote Link to post
+on4bam 1525 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 First time cacher not realizing mysteries need to be solved to get the right coordinates. It was their first "find" and they haven't been active for 2.5 months after this log. Quote Found it Our first geocaching experience. We followed the instructions but didn't find anything. We didn't know what to look for as it's a mystery 2 Quote Link to post
+colleda 881 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 This one was more like a "Dipped Not Dipped". Cache is in Egypt on the Eastern side of the Gulf of Suez about 2km from the water. Cache published 31/3/18 with no finds, no DNFs - yet. Premium Member 5308 Write note 26/02/2020 Dipping our son's TB as he passes y on the motor Yacht Fxxxxxxx on the way to the med Quote Link to post
+Isonzo Karst 944 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 DNF Did not find what should have been an easy grab from out boat. Is it still there? Should be checked on. Person before us said there was a string hanging. Found it! Found string it was connected to... Found it! Found the GZ but no cache, only a wasp nest so once we spotted that we made a hasty retreat! Logging because I'm from Canada and friends took me out in a boat specially to get this one Found it! Found the string but the container is gone. Needs maintenance 1 1 Quote Link to post
+hzoi 1616 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 On 6/14/2020 at 5:32 AM, colleda said: This one was more like a "Dipped Not Dipped". Cache is in Egypt on the Eastern side of the Gulf of Suez about 2km from the water. Cache published 31/3/18 with no finds, no DNFs - yet. Premium Member 5308 Write note 26/02/2020 Dipping our son's TB as he passes y on the motor Yacht Fxxxxxxx on the way to the med Reminds me of the SpiderWings notes I used to see so often when first checking caches out back in 2007 - they "flew" flight simulator trips among states and countries and virtually dipped a TB in first/oldest caches to mark their flight simulator stops. Ultimately harmless. At least they didn't log a find. Quote Link to post
+NanCycle 514 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) Same cacher, same cache, same day: Premium Member 171 Write note 03/11/2019 Was mountain biking through the area and found that this one was missing, probably washed away by a flood. Premium Member 171 Found it 03/11/2019 Forgot to log this one Edited June 17, 2020 by NanCycle Quote Link to post
+RedGuy11 6 Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) On 3/16/2004 at 6:22 PM, SBPhishy said: Yup. I agree with Wacko. I have a cache with a lock on it, as done another cacher out here. If you just went and held the cache, that wouldnt be a find, in my opinion. thats what i usually do, but they're mostly lpcs edit: i haven't come across loked ones ever, but if i did, i would count unlocking it a find i'd post a picture as proof Edited June 17, 2020 by RedGuy11 Quote Link to post
+barefootjeff 3916 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 What's sad about this one is that the original cache was placed in 2001 and was one of the founding caches in my region. Not only is it now a throwdown, it's not even in the same place as the original cache. Quote Link to post
+Harry Dolphin 1212 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Quote Found it 06/20/2020 I probably won’t get to visit this one again, so I logged it as found although I think it may have fallen off the tree I was excited to find one on vacation! 1 Quote Link to post
+barefootjeff 3916 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 This was on one of my multis and Wanda is just the first stage. The final is 300 metres away horizontally and 100 metres up vertically so I was wondering how they'd managed the climb with a sprained ankle. I paid the cache a routine visit this morning and, sure enough, their name isn't in the logbook. This is one of the recent spate of PM newbies who have never visited the website and seem to have no idea how the game works beyond following the arrow on the app. I've sent them a message politely explaining how a multi works and suggesting they delete their log or change it to a WN (can you do that without visiting the website?) until they're able to complete the cache. The cache gets its T4 rating from that climb up the hill, getting to Wanda would be a T2.5 at most so it would seem unfair to the seven others who've made the climb to allow that log to stand. 1 Quote Link to post
+me N u 7 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 One way to "find" D5 T4.5 caches! Publish Listing 26/06/2020 Published Found it 21/06/2020 I was fortunate enough to join the CO in hiding this cache. 1 2 Quote Link to post
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