Gas Prices Got You Down?

1.5k · February 28, 2004

On another forum I visit, I came across an interesting link that pertains directly to gas prices, and it relates to the likely drop in cache hunting due to fuel prices. While some may want to don their tinfoil hats, this guy backs up much of his information with well-known outlets for information. Granted, some of the outlets are a tad biased, but the info is still there.

Peak Oil?

Gas prices

More gas prices

Edited February 28, 2004 by Brian - Team A.I.

21.9k · February 28, 2004

Moving to Geocaching Topics since this doesn't appear to relate to getting started in geocaching.

3.3k · February 28, 2004

Cheap. Try the UK for fuel if you want expensive. It will cost me about US$12 equiv to get to my nearest cache and back. That's restrictive.

February 28, 2004

Uh-oh! I better load up my 8 mpg RV and tour the country now while there is still fuel.

February 28, 2004

I have just got rid of my Cherokee because of the running costs with fuel up here costing 85.9pence per litre it was costing me a fortune.That is about £3.90 a gallon how does your exchange rate look at the moment £ to $.

I am waitng to get my new car which should return from 40 to 55 mpg this will save me about £1000 just travelling to work and back! Oh the joys of motoring

9.4k · February 28, 2004

I have two Suburbans...84 gallons will fill them both up

1.5k · February 28, 2004

Moving to Geocaching Topics since this doesn't appear to relate to getting started in geocaching.

Doh. Guess I didn't realize just where I started this thread.

1.5k · February 28, 2004

I have two Suburbans...84 gallons will fill them both up

Sad thing is, all that gas will only get your Suburbans from one side of ABQ to the other and back.

February 28, 2004

What does a gallon cost in the states? My cherokee took £60 to fill up and if you say the exchange rate is £1 = $2 then that $120 to fill up one car! if the exchange rate is £1 = $1.50 then that is $90 ouch ouch ouch!

I think our fuel prices must damage the tourism in Scotland

1.3k · February 28, 2004

I can convert my car to run on 90% ethanol and buy the gas a a couple local stations.

Wake me when Nebraska runs out of corn.

February 28, 2004

Gas Prices vs other goods.

People have been complaining about the rising price of gasoline recently, but I have always thought that gas was a good value (especially if you were to take the $0.30, $0.40 per gallon tax off at the pump)! Obviously others need a little convincing. So an article in "Autoweek" magazine brought it all to light. What if you were to buy a gallon of . . .

1. - Diet Snapple 16 oz for $1.29 = $10.32 per gallon

2. - Lipton Ice Tea 16 oz for $1.19 = $9.52 per gallon

3. - Gatorade 20 oz for $1.59 = $10.17 per gallon

4. - Ocean Spray 16 oz for $1.25 = $10.00 per gallon

5. - Quart of Milk 16 oz for $1.59 = $6.32 per gallon

6. - Evian (water) 9 oz for $1.49 = $21.19 per gallon

7. - STP Brake Fluid 12 oz for $3.15 = $33.60 per gallon

8. - Vicks Nyquil 6 oz for $8.35 = $178.13 per gallon

9. - Pepto Bismol 4 oz for $3.85 = $123.20 per gallon

10. - Whiteout 7 oz for $1.39 = $254.17 per gallon

11. - Scope 1.5 oz for $0.99 = $84.84 per gallon

So next time you're at the pump, be glad your car doesn't run on Nyquil or Scope or Whiteout!

Anyone drive a Hybrid ? I am seriously considering it, as soon as I can afford to trade out of my 2002 combustible engine car.

February 28, 2004

What does a gallon cost in the states?

I just paid $1.63/gal this morning. The prices haven't slowed me down. The lack of local caches has.

February 28, 2004

I have two Suburbans...84 gallons will fill them both up

4.9 gallons for the Harley.

February 28, 2004

I have two Suburbans...84 gallons will fill them both up

4.9 gallons for the Harley.

How much oil?

February 28, 2004

I have two Suburbans...84 gallons will fill them both up

4.9 gallons for the Harley.

How much oil?

Just drained a little under 2.5 qts, and added 2.5.

Was time for the oil change.

They don't leak, they just mark their territory.

Edited February 28, 2004 by harleycache

2.4k · February 28, 2004

I thought with Harleys it was check the gas and fill up the oil?

February 28, 2004

I thought with Harleys it was check the gas and fill up the oil?

And there you go thinking again!

February 28, 2004

Gas Prices vs other goods.

5. - Quart of Milk 16 oz for $1.59 = $6.32 per gallon

They had me going until the gallon of Milk. In some locales, Milk is cheaper than a gallon of gas!!! Gallon of Milk~ $2.25-2.50, Gallon of Gas (in Chicago ~ $1.90)

If Gas is this high now, what will it be during the summer? Our Geocaching might be VERY local this summer. I guess the Feds are so busy going after Janet Jackson and Howard Stern, that they aren't publically asking the retorical question as to why gas is so high.

Time to park the 4Runner andget out the 240!

February 28, 2004

The price of gas jumped here in southern New Mexico yesterday .12 cents a gallon. Up from $1.54 to $1.66 no little jump

February 28, 2004

I recently read a newspaper article where Toyota Prius hybrids are now outselling Hummers. I don't imagine it will be too long before we see hybrid SUVs.

February 29, 2004

I don't look at the price too much. I figure I'm going to drive no matter what the prices are but we have a Delta Sonic chain here so that saves when you get a wash when you buy gas.

2.6k · February 29, 2004

$2.19 a gal. here in southern riverside county Cal and thats the cheap stuff

February 29, 2004

Im a truck driver and own my own business. I burn easy about $85.00 a day in fuel. 5 days a week. Except for right now , the snow in our area has me sitting home a few days. I pay on average about $1.59 for Diesel. My Pickup is diesel also that I take Geocaching. Its a 2003 Ford F-350 with the 6 liter engine. It gets about 18 MPG.

Edited February 29, 2004 by RockyRiver

February 29, 2004

Cherokeecacher,

In the "How much would a gallon cost" department, the price of ink jet printer ink is more valuable just about anything else on earth!

Ciao

RooBoy

February 29, 2004

I wonder how much gas was wasted in our recent invasion of Iraq? The only nation that has benefitted from the war lost no lives or money and will likely get a pipeline. From the article, some other little known facts about our curious relationship with Israel which seems to always have our government holding Israel's needs above those of US citizens (what would the Founding Fathers have said about that???)

US efforts to get Iraqi oil to Israel are not surprising. Under a 1975 Memorandum of Understanding (MoU), the US guaranteed all Israel's oil needs in the event of a crisis. The MoU, which has been quietly renewed every five years, also committed the USA to construct and stock a supplementary strategic reserve for Israel, equivalent to some US$3bn in 2002. Special legislation was enacted to exempt Israel from restrictions on oil exports from the USA.

Moreover, the USA agreed to divert oil from its home market, even if that entailed domestic shortages, and guaranteed delivery of the promised oil in its own tankers if commercial shippers were unwilling or not available to carry the crude to Israel. All of this adds up to a potentially massive financial commitment

Just think of this during tax time as you see your money going to Israel for no good reason.....

4.4k · February 29, 2004

If you only knew how many things were made from Hydrocarbons it would blow your mind.

Almost everything is C-H Hyrdro-Carbon (Petroleum) that is black gold,Texas T, as Jed would say.

All life forms consist of the Four major Elements C-H-N-O just in different ratios.

The Key Element being carbon it has 4 electrons in its outermost shell that makes it bond easily with the other 3.

Even Ethanol(Ethyl) C2H5 a monovalent radical,is a Hydro-Carbon.

Why do you think they are working on trying to get the Hybrid Hydrogen car going the atmosphere is full of it,

and the Earth is full of Hydrocarbons as well as long as life goes on there will be decay and this is what causes the Nitrogen Cycle,and the Methyl,Ethyl,Propyl,Phenyl,ect...series of the formations of Hydrocarbons,

not Fossil Fuels.it is only a small part of the process.

So lets go caching,afford what you can and it will go down after a while.,probably not much but it will.

Or we could all BOYCOTT buying Gasoline for a week and see if the OIL Companies will Listen.

Whatcha think?

CACHING,CACHING,LETS GO CACHING

February 29, 2004

The idea of boycotting gasoline simply won't work. People have beat on that drum in the recent past when the price per gallon went over $2.00 in the U.S. There are simply too many things that oil is used for besides fuel these days. What we see happening now is what is always happening, the laws of supply and demand. And with the supply at historic 28 year lows, the price has gone up.

2.5k · February 29, 2004

The reason gas prices are high isn't from a lack of oil. The prices are high because of a shortage of refineries.

It would be easy to build more, except that the liberals have prevented more from being built. Naturally, that would change if one of their own were elected, you wouldn't expect them to pay high gas prices if it was their turn to pay the fuel bills.

February 29, 2004

The reason gas prices are high isn't from a lack of oil. The prices are high because of a shortage of refineries.

It would be easy to build more, except that the liberals have prevented more from being built. Naturally, that would change if one of their own were elected, you wouldn't expect them to pay high gas prices if it was their turn to pay the fuel bills.

Blaming liberals for preventing more refineries from being constructed is oversimplifying the problem and is frankly just plain ignorant. There really isn't a shortage of refinery capacity. Constructing a refinery represents a substantial capital investment and a minimum of four years lead time. Increasing the refinery capacity may lower the cost of fuel but also reduces profits. There is little incentive then to increase refinery capacity. Oil companies control the output of their refineries. They can charge whatever they want and whatever the market will bear. They have every right to do so. Deal with it and quit blaming liberals for your problems.

February 29, 2004

There really isn't a shortage of refinery capacity. Constructing a refinery represents a substantial capital investment and a minimum of four years lead time.

Ah! That's the real reason not a single refinery has been built here in California for over 20 years. Not because of lawsuits from environmental groups and endless regulation. Thank you for setting the record strait.

2.5k · February 29, 2004

Blaming liberals for preventing more refineries from being constructed is oversimplifying the problem and is frankly just plain ignorant.

Deal with it and quit blaming liberals for your problems.

Right, and I'm sure that they have nothing to do with the fact that there is no drilling in the Artic either.

Edit:typo

Edited February 29, 2004 by cachew nut

February 29, 2004

What does a gallon cost in the states?

I just paid $6.45 a gallon to fill up at my local Halliburton Station. Then the attendant picked my pocket while he was cleaning my windshield. To top it all off, when I went to leave, I found out my car was on blocks. Luckily they happened to have a set of tires just like mine for sale.

[Where's the icon of the little smiley face with his tongue in his cheek?]

February 29, 2004

Blaming liberals for preventing more refineries from being constructed is oversimplifying the problem and is frankly just plain ignorant.

Deal with it and quit blaming liberals for your problems.

Right, and I'm sure that they have nothing to do with the fact that there is no drilling in the Artic either.

Allow me to elucidate for those of you in other countries who aren't sure what "liberals" means:

Liberals care about the environment more than they care about people.

Conservatives care about money more than they care about people.

The people, on the other hand, just don't care.

Edit: Where do you stand? Find out here.

Edited February 29, 2004 by Indiana Cojones

2.5k · February 29, 2004

Allow me to elucidate for those of you in other countries who aren't sure what "liberals" means:

Liberals care about the environment more than they care about people.

Conservatives care about money more than they care about people.

Hmm, those definitions are kind of extreme and I wouldn't necessarily describe them that way, but they are accurate enough for a quick one-line description, I guess.

Thanks for the link to the website, my test results came out just where I thought they would.

Edit:edit

Edited February 29, 2004 by cachew nut

2.5k · February 29, 2004

Allow me to elucidate for those of you in other countries who aren't sure what "liberals" means:

Trust me on this one, there are liberals in other countries besides the USA. I'm sure they are familiar with the term.

1.2k · February 29, 2004

Anybody want some cheese with their whine?????

Gas prices are going to go up. Bread prices are going to go up. Milk prices are going to go up. Prices are going to go up. If you expect every other price of every other product to go up from time to time, WHY is it so unusual to have the price of gas go up??????

We pay the least amount of any country I know of for gas. When we lived in Germany it was outrageous! The Army actually gave us coupon books to subsidize our gasoline purchases so it wouldn't tear an soldier's paycheck to shreds!!!

We are so spoiled here it is not even funny, yet we still complain loudly every time gas goes up a few cents. It is reasonable for this to happen, yet we are all just flabergasted!!!

Buy a motorcycle, you'll enjoy great gas milage...LOL.

9.4k · February 29, 2004

Edit: Where do you stand? Find out here.

Interesting...my dot was in relatively the same position as Pope John Paul II's dot

February 29, 2004

Buy a motorcycle, you'll enjoy great gas milage...LOL.

Yeah!!

February 29, 2004

Edit: Where do you stand? Find out here.

Interesting...my dot was in relatively the same position as Pope John Paul II's dot

Mine is close to Ghandi....does that mean I have to shave my head?

1.7k · February 29, 2004

Just did a quick currency conversion, £ to $ working out the price of petrol here in Wales. It works out at $6.27 a gallon, I wish we had your petrol prices here! Diesel works out slightly dearer. Cheapest fuel in the Uk at the moment is LPG (Liquefied Petroleum Gas) as it attracts very little tax, due to being more environmentally friendly. The down side is that it cost around $2000 to convert a car over here, and you have to have a 60l tank in your boot (trunk?).

Dave

9.4k · February 29, 2004

Edit: Where do you stand? Find out here.

Interesting...my dot was in relatively the same position as Pope John Paul II's dot

Mine is close to Ghandi....does that mean I have to shave my head?

Only if get one of those bulletproof "Pope-mobiles"

February 29, 2004

I have just got rid of my Cherokee because of the running costs with fuel up here costing 85.9pence per litre it was costing me a fortune.That is about £3.90 a gallon how does your exchange rate look at the moment £ to $.
I am waitng to get my new car which should return from 40 to 55 mpg this will save me about £1000 just travelling to work and back! Oh the joys of motoring

But do remember that, here in the UK, our gallon is a REAL gallon, and is 25% larger than a US gallon.

So when an American boasts "my car has a 40 gallon tank", you have to knock of 20%, to get a "real" figure of only 32 gallons :-). I suspect it all began in Texas, where "everything is so much bigger"

(ok, we both have 8 pints to the gallon, but our pints are 20 ounces)

Paul

February 29, 2004

Liberals care about the environment more than they care about people.

Conservatives care about money more than they care about people.

Ah, this explains why the richest members of Congress are Liberals.... (Kennedy, Feinstein, Corzine)

Edited February 29, 2004 by SamLowrey

February 29, 2004

I happen to place down near Ghandi, Nelson Mandela, etc. I suppose that makes me one of those horrible liberals. And, come to think of it, I suppose I do value the environment more than people. It's a lot harder to hide a Geocache on a person than in the forest. Even a micro (who would want to retrieve it?).

As for the person who pointed out that the richest Senators are Democrats/liberals: Yes, those people are rich. Of course, the richest (by a large margin) happens to be the Senate Majority Leader, Bill Frist. A noted Republican/conservative. Check out this article for other fun facts about our nation's silly Senators. And stop believing what Rush tells you. He's a drug addict.

"Here's an interesting figure: 43 percent of the incoming Congressional freshmen are millionaires. The other 57 percent are Democrats."- Jay Leno

Edited February 29, 2004 by Indiana Cojones

2.5k · March 1, 2004

There really isn't a shortage of refinery capacity. Constructing a refinery represents a substantial capital investment and a minimum of four years lead time.

Ah! That's the real reason not a single refinery has been built here in California for over 20 years. Not because of lawsuits from environmental groups and endless regulation. Thank you for setting the record strait.

It is unlikely that new refineries will be built in California. In fact, from 1985 to 1995, 10 California refineries closed, resulting in a 20 percent reduction in refining capacity. Further refinery closures are expected for small refineries with capacities of less than 50,000 barrels per day. The cost of complying with environmental regulations and low product prices will continue to make it difficult to continue operating older, less efficient refineries.

http://www.energy.ca.gov/oil/refineries.html

Edited March 1, 2004 by cachew nut

2.5k · March 1, 2004

The reason gas prices are high isn't from a lack of oil.

On April 16, Newsday, the Long Island newspaper, published a startling report that old oil fields in the Gulf of Mexico were somehow being refilled. That is, new oil was being discovered in fields where it previously had not existed.

Scientists, led by Mahlon Kennicutt of Texas A&M University, speculate that the new oil is surging upward from deposits well below those currently in production. "Very light oil and gas were being injected from below, even as the producing was going on," he said.

Although it is not yet known whether this is a worldwide phenomenon or commercially important, the new discovery suggests that there may be far more oil and gas within the Earth's core than previously thought.

http://www.detnews.com/2002/editorial/0205/29/a11-500860.htm

March 1, 2004

I have just got rid of my Cherokee because of the running costs with fuel up here costing 85.9pence per litre it was costing me a fortune.That is about £3.90 a gallon how does your exchange rate look at the moment £ to $.
I am waitng to get my new car which should return from 40 to 55 mpg this will save me about £1000 just travelling to work and back! Oh the joys of motoring

But do remember that, here in the UK, our gallon is a REAL gallon, and is 25% larger than a US gallon.

So when an American boasts "my car has a 40 gallon tank", you have to knock of 20%, to get a "real" figure of only 32 gallons :-). I suspect it all began in Texas, where "everything is so much bigger"

(ok, we both have 8 pints to the gallon, but our pints are 20 ounces)

Paul

No matter what the size of the gallon when I was in Canada for a holiday (where petrol is slightly more expensive than the states) My fuel bill for my 10 days use of a hire car was a third of what I would of paid back home for the same distances travelled. Now is this where I learn that a mile is not the same as a UK mile

9.4k · March 1, 2004

The reason gas prices are high isn't from a lack of oil.

On April 16, Newsday, the Long Island newspaper, published a startling report that old oil fields in the Gulf of Mexico were somehow being refilled. That is, new oil was being discovered in fields where it previously had not existed.

Scientists, led by Mahlon Kennicutt of Texas A&M University, speculate that the new oil is surging upward from deposits well below those currently in production. "Very light oil and gas were being injected from below, even as the producing was going on," he said.

Although it is not yet known whether this is a worldwide phenomenon or commercially important, the new discovery suggests that there may be far more oil and gas within the Earth's core than previously thought.

http://www.detnews.com/2002/editorial/0205/29/a11-500860.htm

Does this mean I should hold off on getting an electric car?

March 1, 2004

Prices dropped 10 cents/gallon here in Central Ohio this afternoon! Here's hoping it keeps coming down some more.

March 1, 2004

My opinion ,tell the gas companies to 7^&^^#a**#$! off and ride your bicycle!Thats what i'm doing!

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