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Hi Folks!

This summer I plan to cross the country by motorcycle

and I want my course to be determined by geocaching

coordinates. I'm looking for fellow geocache enthusiasts

to supply me with sites they consider to be sublime, and

I'll seek them out as I travel from San Jose to Maine and

back. I think it'll be interesting to have my trip determined

by these sites, and I'll also have the opportunity to

photograph places that I wouldn't have known about otherwise.

Do you have suggestions regarding the best way to generate

participation? What is the best forum here to drum up interest?

Do you know of other geocaching sites that would be good to

tap into?

 

Thanks in advance for you help,

voltaire

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Hi Folks!

This summer I plan to cross the country by motorcycle 

and I want my course to be determined by geocaching

coordinates. I'm looking for fellow geocache enthusiasts

to supply me with sites they consider to be sublime, and

I'll seek them out as I travel from San Jose to Maine and

back. I think it'll be interesting to have my trip determined

by these sites, and I'll also have the opportunity to

photograph places that I wouldn't have known about otherwise.

Do you have suggestions regarding the best way to generate

participation? What is the best forum here to drum up interest?

Do you know of other geocaching sites that would be good to

tap into?

 

Thanks in advance for you help,

voltaire

HA! O.K. The town of Sublime is just a few miles from Row versus Wade (or possibly Deliverance?)

 

Howz that?

 

(A good side trip from I-10, between San Antonio and Houston.)

 

Sn :unsure:B) gans

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For Sparky and Sax;

 

Definition

The definition of sublime (adj) as it appears in Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

 

Main Entry: sublime

Function: adjective

Inflected Form(s): sub·lim·er; -est

Etymology: Latin sublimis, literally, high, elevated

Date: 1586

1 a: lofty, grand, or exalted in thought, expression, or manner b : of outstanding spiritual, intellectual, or moral worth c : tending to inspire awe usually because of elevated quality (as of beauty, nobility, or grandeur) or transcendent excellence

2 a: archaic : high in place b: obsolete : lofty of mien : HAUGHTY c capitalized : SUPREME -- used in a style of address d : COMPLETE, UTTER

synonym see SPLENDID

- sub·lime·ly adverb

- sub·lime·ness noun

 

"Sublime" refers to an aesthetic value in which the primary factor is the presence or suggestion of transcendent vastness or greatness, as of power, heroism, extent in space or time. It differs from greatness or grandeur in that these are as such capable of being completely grasped or measured. By contrast, the sublime, while in one aspect apprehended and grasped as a whole, is felt as transcending our normal standards of measurement or achievement. Two elements are emphasized in varying degree by different writers, and probably varying in different observers: (1) a certain baffling of our faculty with feeling of limitation akin to awe and veneration; (2) a stimulation of our abilities and elevation of the self in sympathy with its object.

The element of magnitude in beauty was noted by Aristotle, and given by him a prominent place in tragedy. But the earliest extant determination of the sublime as a distinct conception is in the treatise ascribed to Longinus, but now supposed to be of earlier date (first century C.E.). In modern philosophy, it was given special prominence by Edmund Burke in his Essay on the Sublime and Beautiful (1756) and Henry Home in his Elements of Criticism who sought a psychological and physiological explanation. According to Burke, it is caused by a "mode of terror or pain," and is contrasted with the beautiful (rather than being part of the beautiful). Kant also distinguished it as a separate category form beauty, making it apply properly only to the mind, not to the object, and giving it a peculiar moral effect in opposing "the interests of sense." He distinguished a mathematical sublime of extension in space or time, and a dynamic of power. Most subsequent writers on aesthetics tend to bring the sublime within the beautiful in the broader sense insofar as its aesthetic quality is closely related to that of beauty.

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Wow!

Thanks for the interest and help everybody!

The more the merrier, too. Anybody have

sites down in the deep South and high North?

New England?

 

Thanks too for the sublime definition - I'm

aware of the basic background of sublime

and I'm particularly interested in the contribution

of Burke and Kant.

If anyone is interested, I've been reading

a couple of books by British author Paul Crowther.

Some interesting thoughts there.

 

Cherokeecacher mentioned a "TB" event. Can someone

explain Travel Bugs?

It looks like I'll be leaving here, San Jose, in late June.

At this point I don't know how I'll progress crosscountry.

 

voltaire

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IF YOU ARE HERE IN MARCH

A BENCHMARK EVENT

 

Here is just a few you might wanna see

 

PENN STATUE HAT PHILADELPHIA PENN.BENCHMARK

 

WISPERING GIANT, MASSACHUSETTS

GCA64F

 

CITY MUSEUM VIRTUAL, ST. LOUIS MO.

GCE2C1

 

STANDISH MONUMENT, PLYMOUTH MA.

BENCHMARK MY3979

 

PLYMOUTH NATIONAL MONUMENT, PLYMOUTH MA.

BENCHMARK LW4604

 

THERE ARE QUITE A FEW AROUND MY NAME SAKE TOWN ST. CHARLES MO.

38* 46.917

090* 28.85

MISSOURI RECORDS CACHE

ST.CHARLES TOUR 3 CACHE

MISSOURI'S 1'ST STATE CAPITAL CACHE

LEWIS AND CLARK BATHHOUSE CACHE

 

HAPPY...............VALENTINES...................GEOTRAILS

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"Sublime" refers to an aesthetic value in which the primary factor is the presence or suggestion of transcendent vastness or greatness, as of power, heroism, extent in space or time.

Cat Tail Falls cache in Big Bend Nat'l Park fits that description. Why, the entire park fits that description.

 

Safe travels. And drop a line if you are passing through Austin, TX.

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Hi

voltaire here just checking in to catch up on your submissions of sublime sites.

I really appreciate your suggestions. I've wanted to check our Big Bend Nat'l Park

for years and I hope to make it there.

 

I'd like to make a clarification (or two?) regarding this trip of mine. My plan is

to travel the country from California to Maine using the GPS coordinates of

the sublime sites you have submitted. The idea is to travel via this data rather

than, say, hitting all the National Parks. It's like a cross-country geocache trip,

with seeking out the sublime as its goal. So, if you can, please submit the coordinates

of places you have visited or live near. And they don't have to pertain to famous sites - the view down your own street might be sublime, for all I know.

 

Another addition to this: If any of you would be willing to let me spend a night or two

at your place while I'm visiting the site near you I sure would appreciate it. It would cut down on my costs and give me the opportunity to meet interesting people. I'm totally comfortable with throwing my sleeping bag down on the floor or putting my tent up in the back yard, whatever.

 

This trip is part of an art project I'm doing called The Perfect View. The photographic and video documentation of the sites will be exhibited a year from now in San Francisco and possibly elsewhere. You can get more info at http://www.c5corp.com

 

Thank you,

voltaire

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Don't know if you plan on making it thru the Chicago area but one of the biggest events of the year is 'Taste Of chicago'. It's held the week leading up to the 4th of July. Fireworks and the biggest crowd is on the 3rd of July usually. It is held in Grant Park right on the lake shore, so you have an incredible skyline on one side and a beautiful lake view on the other. Don't know as you could call it sublime tho, but on certain levels it may well be. If that doesn't work then just a drive along Lake Shore Drive or watching the sun come up over the lake and reflecting off the buildings may be the ticket.

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When I was 21, I took an entire summer off and bicycled from Bozeman MT. I wanted to live completely free from goals. Each day, I looked at the map and picked the next thing that interested me. Ihad never been out west befroe and because I started in Bozeman, Yellowstone was the first. Then the Tetons. Every day there was something just down the road and eventially I ended up in Pagosa Springs CO. It was like going to the moon, there can never be a summer so sublime!

 

My point is, you may not want to get too caught up in planning this trip. If you can get a wireless PDA or small laptop, you could easily download a few well chosen places to go.

 

You are the only one who can supply the real definition of "sublime".

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Good to hear from you

 

Actually, my project is concerned with the advent of sublime as of the 18th century, a time when so much change was in the air between the Industrial Revolution, growing

capitalism, moves towards democracy, the Enlightenment, etc. To some extent our notion of sublime is culturally and technologically driven - my cross-country trip using GPS coordinates for the subime is an exploration of this realm given new technologies.

 

I've done quite a bit of travelling across the country (three times by motorcycle) and

I appreciate the beauty (sublimity?) of grand sites such as the Tetons. What I am

specifically interested in here is enjoying what you have discovered in your GPS travels that are not necessarily the superstars of North American splendor, yet are

just the same sublime. I would really appreciate your contributing coordinates for such sites. Coodinates for any sublime sites would be excellent. In other words, this particular trip is not just a summer vacation spent exploring the U.S.; it's a trip that explores our collective (?) notions of sublimity by visiting sites you have discovered.

 

Thanks,

voltaire

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Hi Folks

Just touching base and wanting to encourage more submissions.

Looking back through previous posts, I really appreciate the Texas,

Chicago and Kentucky posts. Funny, I've put requests out in the

regional forums and have gotten very few responses from the

South, the Midwest and Southwest. Quite a few from the Northwest,

New England and Great Plains. Does this anything about sublimity

in the quiet regions?

 

Anyway, if you've got coordinates for sites in the South, I hope

you'll send them along - I definitely want to go through that part

of the country and would love to see some sites there.

 

Thanks,

voltaire

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Ah yes, Lake Erie

I used to vacation there with my neighbor when I was a kid - a long

time ago.

I'll probably be swinging back through that way on my return from Maine.

If anyone's got some coordinates for that part of the country I'd love to

have 'em.

 

Thanks,

voltaire

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Hi, voltaire here, refreshing my request for

sublime sites, or as pjmorse said, places

that make you say "wow!"

 

I'm looking for the coordinates of sites, rural or uban, that

have left you in awe, due to the site's topography (?).

The reason I've used the term sublime is because I'm

interested in the history and conception of that term, but

you probably don't want to hear about that too much.

 

I'll be leaving for a cross-country motorcycle trip in late June

to check out the sites you recommend, document them, and consider

how our current thoughts about sublime may, or may not,

relate to ideas from the past.

 

Anyway, I appreciate your suggestions.

 

Thanks,

voltaire

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I'll just tell you the ones I've done or placed that I loved, and were not your ordinary hike.

Some Gave All on top of M Greylock on MA.

Look, Up In the Sky! It's a Bird! My virtual in RI, virtual yes, but so worth the visit! (National Wildlife Refuge)

Swamp Thing largest wetland left in Ny state. If you can get access to a boat, this would be the way to go, otherwise, the cache is just off a dirt road, the swamp is the thing you'd want to see. 22 miles long, covers 6000 acres.

You Sank My Battleship! Brdad's cache in Maine, if you really want to see some sights, and learn about a town, this is the one and only cache for it!!! It would be great to do on a bike, too.

Also in Maine, The Arboretum is one of the most gorgeous arboretums I've been to. And hostas of every kind.

For a nice bike ride up alongside the Housatonic River in CT this multi-cache is just the ticket, it's The Covered Bridges Of Litchfield County .

Don't forget to stop in Rhode Island for a wonderful 1.1 mile walk along the beach

at Catch a Wave One of my personal favorites.

Any of the caches near this one up on MT Taurus will give you fabulous views of the Hudson River and a vigorous climb. Also check out Bear Mountain State park on the other side of the river. And the Palisades Interstate Parkway.

And from my did not find list, my favorites are:

Vermont: Top of Vermont but they charge you to drive up. You can also do Between a Rock and a Hard Place you might be able to take the bike right up the old dirt road. I'm not sure about that.

New Hampshire: Mt Monadnock

And in Massachussetts: Dune One of the most unique cache places I've been to.

Take my word for it! Have a safe trip.

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Hi

For those of you who have been so generous to contribute your thoughts

and site suggestions (and for anyone who is interested), I thought you might

like to see the collection of "sublime sites" that I have received over the past

couple of months. As I've said previously, it's surprising how few sites (none in

many cases) came in from the South, the West and the Southwest. I

definitely have a lot to check out in any case.

 

Here's the list:

 

 

waterfall 3 Mississippi: Wilkinson Cnty

by katie, josh, and shane [profile]

 

N 31° 04.382 W 091° 31.466 (WGS84)

UTM: 15R E 640766 N 3438632

 

GQ's Headcase Texas: Fort Bend Cnty

by Geek-Qualizer [profile]

 

N 29° 38.450 W 095° 39.703 (WGS84)

UTM: 15R E 242317 N 3281949

 

Cat Tails Falls - Big Bend Texas: Brewster Cnty

by gowerd [profile]

 

N 29° 16.386 W 103° 20.154 (WGS84)

UTM: 13R E 661667 N 3239392

 

Buck Trail Kentucky: Menifee Cnty

by Weedhopper [profile]

 

N 37° 48.096 W 083° 37.998 (WGS84)

UTM: 17S E 268161 N 4187069

 

Our Favorite Li'l Bridge Kentucky: Menifee Cnty

by The Li'l Bears [profile]

User's Web Page

 

N 37° 49.130 W 083° 34.750 (WGS84)

UTM: 17S E 272981 N 4188849

 

Janus' Li'l Vacation Home Kentucky: Powell County

by The Li'l Bears [profile]

User's Web Page

 

N 37° 49.621 W 083° 50.455 (WGS84)

UTM: 17S E 249965 N 4190426

 

Pinch 'Em Tight Kentucky: Menifee/Powell Cnties

by Weedhopper [profile]

 

N 37° 48.630 W 083° 38.684 (WGS84)

UTM: 17S E 267183 N 4188085

 

St. Louis Arch Virtual Cache

by bjbest and Big Jimmy [profile]

 

N 38° 37.501 W 090° 11.085 (WGS84)

UTM: 15S E 745081 N 4278926

 

Horse-Shoe Hill Michigan: Manistee Cnty

by SomeThingAboutMary [profile]

 

N 44° 19.858 W 085° 50.847 (WGS84)

UTM: 16T E 591890 N 4909280

 

Natural George Missouri: near Kansas City ? Cnty?

by Recre8 [profile]

 

N 39° 05.254 W 094° 21.525 (WGS84)

UTM: 15S E 382486 N 4327373

 

Platte River Run Nebraska: Buffalo Cnty

by Rocknroll [profile]

 

N 40° 39.648 W 098° 59.333 (WGS84)

UTM: 14T E 500940 N 4501104

 

One Specific Place Nebraska: Douglas Cnty

by redd [profile]

User's Web Page

 

N 41° 14.717 W 096° 04.212 (WGS84)

UTM: 14T E 745499 N 4570127

 

The NWern most cache in the continental US! Washington: Clallam Cnty This is literally on the West Coast and may be difficult to find.

by fooshfoosh and family [profile]

 

N 48° 23.154 W 124° 43.603 (WGS84)

UTM: 10U E 372160 N 5360633

 

Strange Waters Oregon: Marion Cnty.

by 7Bicks [profile]

 

N 44° 45.935 W 121° 47.771 (WGS84)

UTM: 10T E 595265 N 4957615

 

Walker Hole California: Del Norte Cnty ? near the coast ? may be difficult

by Seesthewind & Redwoodmama [profile]

 

N 41° 49.995 W 124° 06.974 (WGS84)

UTM: 10T E 407315 N 4631865

 

Have Fun Storming the Castle! Oregon: Jefferson Cnty

by Zzzoey, illDRIVEuNav & DrNOitall [profile]

 

N 44° 38.710 W 121° 34.342 (WGS84)

UTM: 10T E 613212 N 4944525

 

Mosier Tunnels Re-Revisited Oregon: Hood River Cnty

by Two Geo Sisters [profile]

 

N 45° 41.284 W 121° 26.432 (WGS84)

UTM: 10T E 621430 N 5060573

 

Some Gave All Massachusetts: Berkshire Cnty ? close to the coast ? maybe

unmappable

by Planet/the Bryno [profile]

 

N 42° 38.405 W 073° 09.846 (WGS84)

UTM: 18T E 650514 N 4722482

 

Swamp Thing New York: Putnam Cnty.

by Tree Frogs [profile]

 

N 41° 30.457 W 073° 35.967 (WGS84)

UTM: 18T E 616882 N 4596057

 

Bull Hill Junction New York: Putnam Cnty.

by eagleflyby [profile]

 

N 41° 26.598 W 073° 57.104 (WGS84)

UTM: 18T E 587568 N 4588500

 

Top Of Vermont Vermont: Bennington Cnty

by DX Hunter [profile]

 

N 43° 09.950 W 073° 06.964 (WGS84)

UTM: 18T E 653145 N 4780953

 

Mt Monadnock New Hampshire: Chesire Cnty.

by StripedMoose [profile]

 

N 42° 51.703 W 072° 06.552 (WGS84)

UTM: 18T E 736160 N 4749513

 

Dune Massachusetts: Barnstable Cnty Hard to find due to

being on the tip of Cape Cod

by hbruner [profile]

 

N 42° 04.564 W 070° 09.765 (WGS84)

UTM: 19T E 403818 N 4658876

 

Howard Creek Cache Montana: Missoula Cnty

by Gregg & Soren Schonbachler (Macduff) [profile]

 

N 46° 46.329 W 114° 26.550 (WGS84)

UTM: 11T E 695257 N 5183021

 

Virtual Asgaard New York: Essex Cnty

by Sirius Black of the Adirondacks [profile]

User's Web Page

 

N 44° 25.528 W 073° 40.109 (WGS84)

UTM: 18T E 605988 N 4919992

 

Mr. Whiteface New York: Essex Cnty

by Justin of Team Slacker and Trillian [profile]

 

N 44° 22.324 W 073° 53.463 (WGS84)

UTM: 18T E 588352 N 4913797

 

 

One for the Loafers Maine: Franklin Cnty

by geomaineiacs [profile]

 

N 45° 02.084 W 070° 19.126 (WGS84)

UTM: 19T E 396124 N 4987655

 

 

Monhegan Magic This is an island off the coast of Maine ? maybe un-mapable. Looks like fun, though.

by Anderson [profile]

 

N 43° 45.910 W 069° 18.977 (WGS84)

UTM: 19T E 474542 N 4845840

 

 

Look! Up in the Sky! It's a Bird! Rhode Island: Washington Cnty Near the coast ? maybe unmappable

by Planet [profile]

User's Web Page

 

N 41° 22.329 W 071° 35.214 (WGS84)

UTM: 19T E 283657 N 4583300

 

Secondary Importance

 

Fitchburg Furnace Virtual Cache

by KYtrex [profile]

User's Web Page

 

N 37° 43.987 W 083° 51.158 (WGS84)

UTM: 17S E 248615 N 4180036

 

Thanks again,

voltaire

 

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Hi Folks

Just an update: I'm on the road now for six days, right now hanging out at Java Joe's in Santa Fe, just before heading into Texas for my first sublime site sighting.

 

I couldn't help stopping in at Zion Nt'l Park and Monument Valley on the way - hope you can check these places out if you haven't.

Mostly the weather has been good, ranging from hot to very hot, but I have run into some thunderstorms here in New Mexico - the accompanying wind is havoc for me on my motorcycle.

 

That's it for now - I can't wait to see the Texas sites.

voltaire

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If you are coming down I-40 in Oklahoma...

 

Not far from I-40 with a good view, depending on conditions, is Was***a River Dam. It's a lake side cache.

 

An easy I-40 cache, not sublime, but it has an interesting thing to see is across the road. Bigfoot on Historic Route 66 .

 

The View from Above. It's one of mine, but definitely sublime.

 

Stay on the dirt roads and go about 5 miles to Rock Mary. A nice walk.

 

A nice diversion is to hit Red Rock Canyon at Hinton, OK. About 7 miles south of I-40 at Exit 101. There are four caches in the park and all of them are good. You will enjoy the afternoon going up and down the canyon walls. Sugar Creek Vista is another of mine and the view to the Southwest is gorgeous.

 

Have fun.

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Austin, Tx-Cache on Prayer Mountain

I'll second that one. Well worth the visit. I found it right as a t-storm was brewing and I realized that I was standing on top of the highest point in all directions. I skeedaddled out of there quicko-pronto. Also in Austin, the Walnut Creek Park caches are a fun afternoon.

 

If you come back through Colorado, the tersely named "Geocache" (GC19), is well worth the effort.

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Hi Folks!

This summer I plan to cross the country by motorcycle 

and I want my course to be determined by geocaching

coordinates. I'm looking for fellow geocache enthusiasts

to supply me with sites they consider to be sublime, and

I'll seek them out as I travel from San Jose to Maine and

back. I think it'll be interesting to have my trip determined

by these sites, and I'll also have the opportunity to

photograph places that I wouldn't have known about otherwise.

Do you have suggestions regarding the best way to generate

participation? What is the best forum here to drum up interest?

Do you know of other geocaching sites that would be good to

tap into?

 

Thanks in advance for you help,

voltaire

HA! O.K. The town of Sublime is just a few miles from Row versus Wade (or possibly Deliverance?)

 

Howz that?

 

(A good side trip from I-10, between San Antonio and Houston.)

 

Sn ;);) gans

Well Voltaire,

 

I hope you got a picture of the town sign in Sublime and I hope you liked the cache.

 

I'm glad to see you made it out alive and none of the local residents made you squeal like a pig. :D

 

Can't wait to see the log...... :D

 

SNOOG3.jpg

 

BTW- Now you KNOW. The town of Sublime is anything but........ :D

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Hey Snoogans

You crazy-man, you! Yeah, Fatboy Slim helped me find the cache.

I must say that I was intimidated by your description, and then, when

we pulled up on our bikes, there was this scary-big rattlesnake sittting the closest tree, waiting to greet us. I've never been that close to a venomous snake without the safety of glass!

It took us an hour of slogging through the bogg to finally find the cache.

It was a dirty affair, but we are better for the wear. Unfortunately, we both forgot to take some cache goodies, so we didn't take any of the generous prizes inside of the amazingly dry ammo box. Good thing it was

tied down, by the way.

 

Thanks for the adventure, Snoogans!

Now it's off to the Ozarks in search of Hawksbill Crag.

voltaire

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Sorry Voltaire,

 

I forgot to send links for my nominees of Sublime. If you do make it here to northwestern Pa and Presque Isle area, these ones are well worth a visit, IMHO.

 

Presque Isle Lagoon Cache The owner has his own business, and caches like a madman. Contact him, he can probably show you more Sublimity :laughing: than any other human being in the area.

 

This ones in Meadville, south of Erie. Cemetary Run

This guy is in touch with Mom Nature herself. Pretty much any cache he has will qualify for sublime.

 

And in Ohio, save time for THIS one for sure. The whole park is incredible and can keep your interest for hours. Cascading Hopes

 

Let me know if you make it into this area. Chances are, I won't be able to get away for some caching, but ya never know.

 

Happy touring !

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Hey Snoogans

You crazy-man, you! Yeah, Fatboy Slim helped me find the cache.

I must say that I was intimidated by your description, and then, when

we pulled up on our bikes, there was this scary-big rattlesnake sittting the closest tree, waiting to greet us. I've never been that close to a venomous snake without the safety of glass!

It took us an hour of slogging through the bogg to finally find the cache.

It was a dirty affair, but we are better for the wear. Unfortunately, we both forgot to take some cache goodies, so we didn't take any of the generous prizes inside of the amazingly dry ammo box. Good thing it was

tied down, by the way.

 

Thanks for the adventure, Snoogans!

Now it's off to the Ozarks in search of Hawksbill Crag.

voltaire

Who? ME? Crazy? Nawwwww, just evil and warped. Most of that cache page is one long WARNING. Imagine doing it at night. Geowyz (FTF) left fire tacks behind for anyone brave enough to try.

 

(We call the snake "Bitey." He's better than a WELCOME mat.) :laughing:

 

SNOOG9.jpg

 

BTW- That cache was UNDER water for at least 3 to 4 months this year. It was STILL UNDER for one of the finds. Yay for the US Government & surplus ammo cans.

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Yeah, I am impressed by the ammo cans. Same goes for those who found it at midnight - wackos! Fatboy Slim says that there's a contingent of Austin area cachers that only search at night - wackos! ;-)

 

I'm in New Jersey now, haning out at my sister's place for a day. It's raining.

I hope to catch a cache in this area - I've got one on my list.

 

voltaire

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