Who Can Identify This Marker?

[+bholt3]

I found this marker on the crest of a small ridge in the Mojave desert near California City, CA. It was next to Hwy 14. Can anyone tell me what the marker signifies?

[+GEO*Trailblazer 1]

Nope?

 

I know it is a Monument though, it appears to have a witness post post behind it but the sign is gone.

 

What is it's latt. and long.?

What is the OLd name of HWY. 14 ?

 

Was it the El Camino Real ?

Edited February 11, 2004 by GEO*Trailblazer 1

[+Kewaneh & Shark]

Concrete posts like that are commonly used as state highway right-of-way markers, and several California counties used similar posts as county line markers. I would guess it to be a ROW marker if it adjacent to Highway 14.

[+bholt3]

Thanks for the clue about the ROW. Using that I found (http://www.highwayman-routes.com/c_block_california.htm) that this a C-Block, used to mark Right of Way on California state roads from 1914 to 1934.

[+Kewaneh & Shark]

The county line markers I mentioned are nearly identical. The names of the county, or the first letter of the county name, was inscrbed on the appropriate side.

[+California Bear]

On the subject of county line markers, I found a BM disc that had a county line on it. It sits on the border between LA and Orange County in Seal Beach/Long Beach (depending on which side of the disc you are on).

 

[+Kewaneh & Shark]

The other information on the disk says that it was set for the City of Long Beach in 1969 by Charles Hathaway, LS2680, of Long Beach. (Incidentally, he became a Licensed Land Surveyor in 1951 and his license is still current. He may or may not still be practicing.)

[+California Bear]

The other information on the disk says that it was set for the City of Long Beach in 1969 by Charles Hathaway, LS2680, of Long Beach. (Incidentally, he became a Licensed Land Surveyor in 1951 and his license is still current. He may or may not still be practicing.)

Wow! Nifty info! I assumed that the information on the OC side of the marker was an OC marker number. It never occured to me that CLB would mean City of Long Beach but now that seems pretty obvious.

 

Is there a public database for suveyor information that you were able to check to find out about Mr. Hathaway or is that from a surveyor only source?

[+Kewaneh & Shark]

The information about licensed Professional Land Surveyors and Civil Engineers, particularly their name, license number, and license status is public information. The California Board for Professional Engineers and Land Surveyors maintains that list. To quote the mission statement of the Board: 'The Mission of the Board for Professional Engineers and Land Surveyors is to safeguard the life, health, property, and welfare of the public by regulating the practice of professional engineering and land surveying.' General information about a particular engineer or surveyor can be searched for on the License Lookup page on the board's website.

[+GEO*Trailblazer 1]

Here in Missouri

 

Missouri Engineers and Surveyors

[+chaosmanor]

On the subject of county line markers, I found a BM disc that had a county line on it. It sits on the border between LA and Orange County in Seal Beach/Long Beach (depending on which side of the disc you are on).

I've got one very similar to that, on the Ventura/Los Angeles county line: EW4527. It's just off P.C.H. (California 1), between Malibu and Oxnard. I have to go back out there and do some more work on it before filing a Recovery with NGS, though. The marker I found appears to be a reset, but I want to verify the measurements.

[+Kewaneh & Shark]

Here's a few pics of a County Line Marker that I mentioned in my February 11th posts. This is located on the line between Fresno and Tulare Counties at N36d 32.718, W119d 30.206.

 

The Fresno side...

 

...and the Tulare side.

[+CacheCreatures]

I've got one very similar to that, on the Ventura/Los Angeles county line: EW4527. It's just off P.C.H. (California 1), between Malibu and Oxnard. I have to go back out there and do some more work on it before filing a Recovery with NGS, though. The marker I found appears to be a reset, but I want to verify the measurements.

Sorry if this strays a bit off topic... do you (or anyone wishing to respond) file a Recovery with the NGS for each mark you find? I'm of course aware of the gc.com method for logging a mark, but that usually was the end of it for me. Should I be logging my finds elsewhere too? If I can help in some way by doing so then by all means I will.

[+gbod]

Sorry if this strays a bit off topic... do you (or anyone wishing to respond) file a Recovery with the NGS for each mark you find?  I'm of course aware of the gc.com method for logging a mark, but that usually was the end of it for me.  Should I be logging my finds elsewhere too?  If I can help in some way by doing so then by all means I will.

Some do, some don't. This topic was also recently discussed here.

[+CacheCreatures]

Sorry if this strays a bit off topic... do you (or anyone wishing to respond) file a Recovery with the NGS for each mark you find?  I'm of course aware of the gc.com method for logging a mark, but that usually was the end of it for me.  Should I be logging my finds elsewhere too?  If I can help in some way by doing so then by all means I will.

Some do, some don't. This topic was also recently discussed here.

That's what I get for posting before morning coffee. Thanks for the link.