+joefrog Posted January 22, 2004 Posted January 22, 2004 Yet another good reinforcement of my personal motto: Never get married, never have kids. Seeing as I've never met you, that that may be a GOOD thing! I'm of the opinion that some folks should never breed -- you MAY be among that crowd! Quote
+mrmnjewel Posted January 22, 2004 Posted January 22, 2004 Never really had a problem. Julia comes with me on some hunts. She likes micros and sometimes helps me think them through. However, the ones that involve hiking in the woods she will do, but only to a point. If it involves leaving the trail, bushwhacking, thorns, ticks, etc., she will usually wait on the trail and shout encouragement, or sit that trip out. Quote
+Team BlackZ Posted January 22, 2004 Posted January 22, 2004 My wife and 3 year old son go with me sometimes to find caches. She doesn't mind me going alone if it's early in the morning and I get back mid afternoon. She gets a little frustrated staying home all day with our little one. Of course when he goes with us to find a cache, he usually takes off running through the woods, so i spend more time chasing him than looking for the cache. It's all good though! Quote
+Team GPSaxophone Posted January 22, 2004 Posted January 22, 2004 To re-use an old joke I heard once... A Geocacher wakes up his wife right as the sky began turning light early one Saturday morning. He says, "sex or Geocaching." She replies, "the GPS is on the table." I should have used that one when my wife took my GPSr away! Quote
+Dufer Posted January 22, 2004 Posted January 22, 2004 Wow, will ya look at that? Dufer's wife has a moustache! :lol SORRY TO DISAPOINT YOU JOEFROG BUT DUFER HAS THE MUSTACHE , NO WIFE , AND ONLY ONE FORUM ACCOUNT ! (that he shares nicely) Quote
+joefrog Posted January 22, 2004 Posted January 22, 2004 Wow, will ya look at that? Dufer's wife has a moustache! :lol SORRY TO DISAPOINT YOU JOEFROG BUT DUFER HAS THE MUSTACHE , NO WIFE , AND ONLY ONE FORUM ACCOUNT ! (that he shares nicely) Dissapoint? Oh, no no no... not dissapointment! Relief! Quote
+Monkeybrad Posted January 22, 2004 Posted January 22, 2004 (edited) My situation is just the opposite, I have to make up excuses for caching without her. Last year she called me while I was doing a little business trip caching in Chicago and the problem was not that i had taken a later flight to get in some caching, the problem was that I was finding thigs she couldn't hunt. I have to say I am blessed, with Scoot the Frog, the first woman in TN to find 1K. The only frustrating thing is when she hides particularly difficult ones while I am out of town, and then laughs while i hunt them in vain. Edited January 22, 2004 by Monkeybrad Quote
+Alan2 Posted January 22, 2004 Posted January 22, 2004 EXCUSE ME I AM A WOMAN ENTERING YOUR CONVERSATION ... oh by the way here's a hint, buy her her own gps--it's like the tv remote--you guys would hog it all the time if there is only one I tried that. I offered her my Vista but that was not really up front as I was looking for an excuse to upgrade to a 60CS. So I reverted to begging before going and coming home with flowers afterwards. Alan Quote
+rusty_tlc Posted January 22, 2004 Posted January 22, 2004 ...... The only frustrating thing is when she hides particularly difficult ones while I am out of town, and then laughs while i hunt them in vain. I really hope my wife never starts hiding caches without Me I'd be sunk, along with half of the other cachers in the area. Quote
+Ambrosia Posted January 23, 2004 Posted January 23, 2004 To re-use an old joke I heard once... A Geocacher wakes up his wife right as the sky began turning light early one Saturday morning. He says, "sex or Geocaching." She replies, "the GPS is on the table." O.K. I had to put my womanly two cents worth in. My husband secretly tries to undermine my geocaching. He won't admit it, though. Oh, well. I can't complain. We have a very close relationship and do everything together. This is one of the first things that I have regularly gone out and done without him. When he does go caching with me, he warms up to it. He loves all kinds of gadgets, and he likes the hunt and the outdoors. And as to the joke that was going around about the choice between sex or caching. Either way, it is sad. It is sad that the wife would want her husband to go caching, so she can get out of sex, and it is sad that the husband would prefer caching over sex. What is this world coming to? Quote
Captain Chaoss Posted January 23, 2004 Posted January 23, 2004 And as to the joke that was going around about the choice between sex or caching. Either way, it is sad. It is sad that the wife would want her husband to go caching, so she can get out of sex, and it is sad that the husband would prefer caching over sex. What is this world coming to? And hence the reason its labeled "for men only"....she took all the fun out of it by being serious. Quote
+Johnnie Stalkers Posted January 23, 2004 Posted January 23, 2004 And as to the joke that was going around about the choice between sex or caching. Either way, it is sad. It is sad that the wife would want her husband to go caching, so she can get out of sex, and it is sad that the husband would prefer caching over sex. What is this world coming to? Perhaps you should get a good look at these people before you make this judgment? Quote
+clearpath Posted January 23, 2004 Author Posted January 23, 2004 O.K. I had to put my womanly two cents worth in. My husband secretly tries to undermine my geocaching. He won't admit it, though. Oh, well. I can't complain. We have a very close relationship and do everything together. This is one of the first things that I have regularly gone out and done without him. When he does go caching with me, he warms up to it. He loves all kinds of gadgets, and he likes the hunt and the outdoors. And as to the joke that was going around about the choice between sex or caching. Either way, it is sad. It is sad that the wife would want her husband to go caching, so she can get out of sex, and it is sad that the husband would prefer caching over sex. What is this world coming to? Huh, excuse me, but don't you need to get home and change the oil in the car? Or maybe fix that closet door that won't shut all the way? Better yet, shouldn't you be home attending to the many tender, yet, important aspects of your husband fragile inner-self? Uh huh, thats what I thought ... PS - better hurry, think I hear 'pookie' screaming about the TV remote he can't find ... Quote
+Ambrosia Posted January 23, 2004 Posted January 23, 2004 O.K. I had to put my womanly two cents worth in. My husband secretly tries to undermine my geocaching. He won't admit it, though. Oh, well. I can't complain. We have a very close relationship and do everything together. This is one of the first things that I have regularly gone out and done without him. When he does go caching with me, he warms up to it. He loves all kinds of gadgets, and he likes the hunt and the outdoors. And as to the joke that was going around about the choice between sex or caching. Either way, it is sad. It is sad that the wife would want her husband to go caching, so she can get out of sex, and it is sad that the husband would prefer caching over sex. What is this world coming to? Huh, excuse me, but don't you need to get home and change the oil in the car? Or maybe fix that closet door that won't shut all the way? Better yet, shouldn't you be home attending to the many tender, yet, important aspects of your husband fragile inner-self? Uh huh, thats what I thought ... PS - better hurry, think I hear 'pookie' screaming about the TV remote he can't find ... Well, well, well! First you tell me not to judge some hypothetical couple in a joke, and then you judge my husband and I! You can't pigeon hole my husband and I into some stereotypical male/female roles. That's what I get for logging into a "men only" discussion. You guys are just jealous because I would say to my husband, "Let's have sex, and THEN go geocaching!" And now I am off to Seattle for the day, so you can quote me and badger me to your heart's delight, while I am gone. Quote
+Sparky-Watts Posted January 23, 2004 Posted January 23, 2004 And now I am off to Seattle for the day, so you can quote me and badger me to your heart's delight, while I am gone. But it's no fun if you're not here! Oh, well, guess I'll just pick on smurf-boy! Quote
+clearpath Posted January 23, 2004 Author Posted January 23, 2004 Well, well, well! First you tell me not to judge some hypothetical couple in a joke, and then you judge my husband and I! You can't pigeon hole my husband and I into some stereotypical male/female roles. That's what I get for logging into a "men only" discussion. You guys are just jealous because I would say to my husband, "Let's have sex, and THEN go geocaching!" And now I am off to Seattle for the day, so you can quote me and badger me to your heart's delight, while I am gone. Alright, all you geomen out there ... I may need some help with this one ... Looks to me like the husband in this case may be the luckiest man alive. Quote
+carleenp Posted January 23, 2004 Posted January 23, 2004 You guys are just jealous because I would say to my husband, "Let's have sex, and THEN go geocaching!" I suspect she may be correct with this one! This thread is amusing me! Quote
+Johnnie Stalkers Posted January 23, 2004 Posted January 23, 2004 (edited) Well, well, well! First you tell me not to judge some hypothetical couple in a joke, and then you judge my husband and I! You can't pigeon hole my husband and I into some stereotypical male/female roles. Actually I said "don't judge until you see them" not Clearpath. I understand the confusion though, our avatars are almost identical. My comment was meant to be purely entertaining, and to me at least, it was. Since you brought it up, I thought Clearpaths response to your rant was better than mine. Well done CP. And so I don't get off topic, ahem, more than we have here. Ani is pretty cool about Geocaching, both with me and without. She hasn't gone out by herself but I have several times. Sometimes I just have to "go grab one". She doesn't tell me I can't or shouldn't and I don't have to explain to her that I am big boy and I can do what I want, whenever the heck I feel like it. I just skip the argument and settle in for a long, cold night on the couch. I had another thought, but sweety-dumpling sugar buns needs a glass of water. Evian, in an 8oz crystal glass with exactly 6 perfectly square cubes at 8 degrees F. Must not keep her waiting. Edited January 23, 2004 by Johnnie Stalkers Quote
Captain Chaoss Posted January 23, 2004 Posted January 23, 2004 (edited) Yep, I'm jealous ! I have a real nasty cold, its -13 here, with drifting snow covering all the caches even if I could get out without the risk of protruding body parts freezing off. I'm runnin out of firewood in here, which means I DO have to risk frostbite to get to my wood "cache", By the way, my wife went and bought herself a new Magellan, and I can't take it to "try it out" for her. Yep, I'm jealous. Somebody lock the door, no more women allowed ! Sorry CarleenP. PLease don't sue me. Edited January 23, 2004 by Captain Chaoss Quote
+carleenp Posted January 23, 2004 Posted January 23, 2004 Yep, I'm jealous. Somebody lock the door, no more women allowed ! Sorry CarleenP. PLease don't sue me. I won't sue you, I'll just keep breaking in like I am doing now! Quote
+Sparky-Watts Posted January 24, 2004 Posted January 24, 2004 Yep, I'm jealous. Somebody lock the door, no more women allowed ! Sorry CarleenP. PLease don't sue me. I won't sue you, I'll just keep breaking in like I am doing now! Ummm...you could at least knock. I'm sorta but not really in trouble with Sunshine tonight. I may not have to ask permission to go caching for a while, as I can easily slip out of the doghouse and get away without her knowing it. Why? I was hoping you'd ask! I bought a Jeep! What was I thinking?!?!?!?!? Well, that wasn't the only bad part....she doesn't mind the Jeep, just not thrilled because it's a 5-speed manual and she doesn't like to drive a stick (I did that on purpose to keep her out of the driver's seat!) So, since I'll be in the doghouse for a while, I can pretty much go whenever my back will let me! Quote
Captain Chaoss Posted January 24, 2004 Posted January 24, 2004 it's a 5-speed manual and she doesn't like to drive a stick (I did that on purpose to keep her out of the driver's seat!) LOL I did the same thing ! Mines a 94'. She drives it occasionally, but no where near as much as she would a standard. Have fun Sparky !! New excuse: Honey, I think the 4 wheel drive needs exercised a little before the weather gets too bad. I'll be back.......eventually. Quote
+carleenp Posted January 24, 2004 Posted January 24, 2004 (edited) So do they not like the stick shift because they never learned to use it? I'm just curious. I personally hate automatics. And unlike you guys, I wish my boyfriend knew how to drive a manual so he could drive my car on trips at times, but I have been too lazy to teach him. Ooops! But, Sparky, if you bought the thing without telling her, then shame on you! You deserve to be in the dog house! My ex-husband once traded a van that we both used and I liked for traveling without consulting me and while I was on vacation, for a Porsche that I could not drive because I was too short to see out of it. I bet you guys think I must never get angry, and I rarely do, but boy that didn't go over well! Now, if he had traded it in for a Jeep, I would have been annoyed over the lack of consultation but would have quickly gotten over it! On topic: I know this thread was named "for men only" because there are more men around here and men being into caching when their wives/significant others are not is more common than the other way around. But certainly women could have a similar or different perspective to share. Plus, I bet if a "for women only" thread started, it would be full of you guys posting real quick! Oh geeze, I'm throwing a damper on things and I know this is really all in fun. Sorry! I just wanted to say that! Oh! and Sparky, people who are "breaking in" never knock! Edited January 24, 2004 by carleenp Quote
+Sparky-Watts Posted January 24, 2004 Posted January 24, 2004 So do they not like the stick shift because they never learned to use it? I'm just curious. I personally hate automatics. And unlike you guys, I wish my boyfriend knew how to drive a manual so he could drive my car on trips at times, but I have been too lazy to teach him. Ooops! But, Sparky, if you bought the thing without telling her, then shame on you! You deserve to be in the dog house! Oh, no. She learned to drive with a stick shift. She just doesn't like them. And yes, she knew I was buying one, but just didn't want me to buy one with a stick. She's over it, mostly. She was more upset that I traded my '99 Camry in on it. When I bought that, she said she didn't like it because of the leather seats, sliding sun-roof and because it was black with gold trim. She said her plain-Jane '97 Camry was better. Now that mine's gone, she wants it! Oh! and Sparky, people who are "breaking in" never knock! All right....who forgot to lock the door to the clubhouse?!?!?!? Quote
+rusty_tlc Posted January 24, 2004 Posted January 24, 2004 clearpath wrote at the start of this: For you men out there in a similar situation, what excuses do you give your wife (or significant other) to allow yourself the freedom to geocache. I guess all the fems who are the primary cacher in the relationship could start thier own thread? But it could just have been that clearpath is a victum of a male predjudiced society. He was not born this way society made him this way. We should pity him not berate him. Shame on you all. Quote
+Alan2 Posted January 24, 2004 Posted January 24, 2004 You guys are just jealous because I would say to my husband, "Let's have sex, and THEN go geocaching!" Hmmm. How about sex while you're caching? (That's a general question. I'm not directing it towards anyone in particular.) Alan Quote
+Sparky-Watts Posted January 24, 2004 Posted January 24, 2004 You guys are just jealous because I would say to my husband, "Let's have sex, and THEN go geocaching!" Hmmm. How about sex while you're caching? (That's a general question. I'm not directing it towards anyone in particular.) Alan ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!! Quote
+carleenp Posted January 24, 2004 Posted January 24, 2004 I guess all the fems who are the primary cacher in the relationship could start thier own thread? But it could just have been that clearpath is a victum of a male predjudiced society. He was not born this way society made. We should pity him not berate him. Shame on you all. I'm not berating him. If it seems that way, I apologize. I know this thread is in fun (at least I think it is). I just can't help but give a little ribbing here and there! And yes, we could start our own thread which would likely be full of men quite quickly. That would be OK, but at that point, why bother? Now to get this back on topic, if you really want a good effective way to go caching on the sneek then, (yes this takes a little extra work on your part) tell her you almost bought a present for her the other day and then something happened that prevented it (be creative). Say that you know it ruins the surprise, but you really have to go get it. Go caching and then stop by a store and buy her some cute little thing within the budget and then give it to her when you get home. Tell her that you know it is silly because it isn't much, but it just made you think of her so much when you saw it that you just had to go back and get it. Make up a story for why it took so long. Both are happy then! Of course, this will only work once or twice before she becomes supicious! Quote
+Sparky-Watts Posted January 24, 2004 Posted January 24, 2004 I guess all the fems who are the primary cacher in the relationship could start thier own thread? But it could just have been that clearpath is a victum of a male predjudiced society. He was not born this way society made. We should pity him not berate him. Shame on you all. I'm not berating him. If it seems that way, I apologize. I know this thread is in fun (at least I think it is). I just can't help but give a little ribbing here and there! And yes, we could start our own thread which would likely be full of men quite quickly. That would be OK, but at that point, why bother? Now to get this back on topic, if you really want a good effective way to go caching on the sneek then, (yes this takes a little extra work on your part) tell her you almost bought a present for her the other day and then something happened that prevented it (be creative). Say that you know it ruins the surprise, but you really have to go get it. Go caching and then stop by a store and buy her some cute little thing within the budget and then give it to her when you get home. Tell her that you know it is silly because it isn't much, but it just made you think of her so much when you saw it that you just had to go back and get it. Make up a story for why it took so long. Both are happy then! Of course, this will only work once or twice before she becomes supicious! You posted this with no fear of being called a traitor by your fellow fems?!?!?!?!? That takes ba.....errr, guts! Quote
+rusty_tlc Posted January 24, 2004 Posted January 24, 2004 ... Tell her that you know it is silly because it isn't much, but it just made you think of her so much when you saw it that you just had to go back and get it. Make up a story for why it took so long. Both are happy then! Of course, this will only work once or twice before she becomes supicious! I can see it now: "It took you three hours to go to the Dollar Tree?" That's going to be one heck of a story. BTW: I was being totally sarcastic, clearpath is clearly a chuvanistic* indian warrior. Feel free to slam him at will, and what point would two excuse threads serve? *dadgum I need spell check. Quote
+Team GPSaxophone Posted January 24, 2004 Posted January 24, 2004 Hmmm. How about sex while you're caching? I suppose if you visit one of the several rest-stops mentioned in the Hunt/Unusual forum you might get lucky :D Quote
+rusty_tlc Posted January 24, 2004 Posted January 24, 2004 Hmmm. How about sex while you're caching? I suppose if you visit one of the several rest-stops mentioned in the Hunt/Unusual forum you might get lucky :D Your a sick little Smurf, I like that! Quote
+Team GPSaxophone Posted January 24, 2004 Posted January 24, 2004 Hmmm. How about sex while you're caching? I suppose if you visit one of the several rest-stops mentioned in the Hunt/Unusual forum you might get lucky :D Your a sick little Smurf, I like that! Glad you like it, I don't go for that stuff myself (Hope that won't be considered too hostile!) Quote
+rusty_tlc Posted January 24, 2004 Posted January 24, 2004 Hmmm. How about sex while you're caching? I suppose if you visit one of the several rest-stops mentioned in the Hunt/Unusual forum you might get lucky :D Your a sick little Smurf, I like that! Glad you like it, I don't go for that stuff myself (Hope that won't be considered too hostile!) HA HA! Who could stay mad at a little blue guy. Quote
+GeckoGeek Posted January 24, 2004 Posted January 24, 2004 Who could stay mad at a little blue guy. Watch it buddy!! Quote
Captain Chaoss Posted January 24, 2004 Posted January 24, 2004 (edited) So do they not like the stick shift because they never learned to use it? But, Sparky, if you bought the thing without telling her, then shame on you! You deserve to be in the dog house! Ok, that was meant for Sparky, but now I feel obligated to "clear my name." My wife actually urged me to buy this one because it was such a deal. The 5-speed was a bonus to me.[/SIZE] I bet you guys think I must never get angry, and I rarely do, but boy that didn't go over well! SORRY. Thats why the clubhouse door was supposed to be locked ! On topic: I know this thread was named "for men only" because there are more men around here and men being into caching when their wives/significant others are not is more common than the other way around. Actually, its because deep down, we're all truly chauvinistic pigs, and we like to talk big. But certainly women could have a similar or different perspective to share. That whole "Mars/Venus" thing all over again. Plus, I bet if a "for women only" thread started, it would be full of you guys posting real quick! No, we'd all try to get our wives/girlfriends involved in it, and sneak out for some "guys only" caching. Oh geeze, I'm throwing a damper on things and I know this is really all in fun. Sorry! I just wanted to say that! We forgive you, now leave so this meeting of G.R.O.S.S. can come to order. Supreme Dictator for Life, Calvin presiding. Edited January 24, 2004 by Captain Chaoss Quote
+Johnnie Stalkers Posted January 24, 2004 Posted January 24, 2004 ROFLMAO! The entire time I was reading this I was thinking about Calvin and his club house. How cool! Thanks for posting it. Quote
+webscouter. Posted January 24, 2004 Posted January 24, 2004 I was thinking about Our Gang, CarleenP would be Darla, who gets to be Alfalfa? Quote
+Sparky-Watts Posted January 24, 2004 Posted January 24, 2004 I was thinking about Our Gang, CarleenP would be Darla, who gets to be Alfalfa? I've got the hair for it....... Quote
Captain Chaoss Posted January 24, 2004 Posted January 24, 2004 (edited) What was the episode where they found the cave with the treasure, and the giant was catching them all with a big mouse trap ? I think at the end of it all, it was just a dream anyhow. Honey, I'm going to reconnect with my childhood. Back in a few hours. (edited to be on topic) Edited January 24, 2004 by Captain Chaoss Quote
+Planet Posted January 24, 2004 Posted January 24, 2004 Man, I'm so lucky. I found the right guy. I just tape a note to the TV or the hood fan over the stove saying "gone caching/fishing/out", those are two spots he's bound to see, eventually. If I am planning a long hike to a cache or an over night camp out, he'll think about joining me. He just doesn't want to do the bunch of short hops. And most times if I'm not coming home right away, say I end up in Vermont or the Northwest Hills of CT, I'll call. He might, just might answer the phone. Quote
+astheravenflies Posted January 24, 2004 Posted January 24, 2004 I just tell my wife "wake me up early, be good to my dogs, and teach my children to pray," then I go caching. credit: John Anderson Quote
+Renegade Knight Posted January 24, 2004 Posted January 24, 2004 It's been a while since a real cache trip. Last night I'm talking to Night Stalker. "Lets go snag a couple that are up Mink Creek" to which he says "Do you know how much snow there is up there?" Which I do, but I figure we can just wade through the stuff and bring a shovel. This morning I get up ready to implement the plan. To which my wife says "yeah but you have to help your daughter with her science proejct"...and so I do. Of course I recognize the truth which is I get to bond with my daughter and for some goofy reason doing this kind of stuff counts as foreplay with the wife. Who the heck am I to argue with success? So tomorrow Mink Creek. Today a flying basket. Quote
Captain Chaoss Posted January 24, 2004 Posted January 24, 2004 ...for some goofy reason doing this kind of stuff counts as foreplay with the wife. Who the heck am I to argue with success? So tomorrow Mink Creek. Today a flying basket. "Flying Basket" ? I looked all through the "Kama Sutra" book, and so no mention of that one ! Quote
+astheravenflies Posted January 24, 2004 Posted January 24, 2004 It's been a while since a real cache trip. Last night I'm talking to Night Stalker. "Lets go snag a couple that are up Mink Creek" to which he says "Do you know how much snow there is up there?" Which I do, but I figure we can just wade through the stuff and bring a shovel. This morning I get up ready to implement the plan. To which my wife says "yeah but you have to help your daughter with her science proejct"...and so I do. Of course I recognize the truth which is I get to bond with my daughter and for some goofy reason doing this kind of stuff counts as foreplay with the wife. Who the heck am I to argue with success? So tomorrow Mink Creek. Today a flying basket. Which reminds me, I have a map project that I have to help my older son with. Otherwise, it could be a cold night. Quote
+clearpath Posted January 24, 2004 Author Posted January 24, 2004 BTW: I was being totally sarcastic, clearpath is clearly a chuvanistic* indian warrior. Feel free to slam him at will, and what point would two excuse threads serve? *dadgum I need spell check. Yes, I'm a chauvinist! I am of the belief that it is 'us' (men) vs 'them' (women). The older I get, the more I realize that men must stick together. We must pool our resourses and intellect in order to achieve the ultimate goal. That's right ... pure, unadulterated, zero percent down, king of the hill, time and a half, worry free .. dominance of the TV remote control. There really is not greater prize. There are other activities that come close, geocaching, golf, racing, hunting, fishing or any sport for instance. However, when its all over at the end of the day, it still comes back to controlling the TV. Without TV, we only have beer, without TV AND beer, we have nothing. So, let us not forget, we are the righteous and together we can change the world. Gotta go ... my wife wants watch the Winter X Games on ESPN, Wooo Hooo!!!!!! Quote
+Ambrosia Posted January 25, 2004 Posted January 25, 2004 You guys are just jealous because I would say to my husband, "Let's have sex, and THEN go geocaching!" Hmmm. How about sex while you're caching? (That's a general question. I'm not directing it towards anyone in particular.) Alan Sex WHILE geocaching? Well, do I have a story for you! Wait a minute...I promised that I would not say anything about that ... besides, it's off topic. Though, anything I say is off topic, technichally, since this thread is FOR MEN ONLY. My hardest problem is that we have only one GPS. My husband bought it for himself before we ever heard of geocaching. So, when he goes off to work, he takes it with him, because it assists him in his job. So I've had to try to share with Patudles, in the past. I don't need to make excuses, because whenever I've gone to caches by myself, it's been when he is off to work, and he doesn't even know that I'm caching. I do love my husband very much. Quote
+Ratone Posted January 25, 2004 Posted January 25, 2004 but let me remind me that there is a saying, "I f you can't beat your enemy, join him", so after some excuses my strategy is named Geopicnic...it really works for me! Quote
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