+Imajika Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 All the caches I have been on were fairly easy and didn't involve a ton of hiking (I'm planning on doing those in the springtime...or when I exhaust the cache supply around here...whichever comes first). So I take a backpack which contains: 1. 1 Garmin Etrex Legend 2. Extra batteries 3. Cell phone 4. Pens 5. A pad of paper and one or two extra logbooks in case I find a full one that needs replacing 6. Trade items 7. My logbook stickers and a few of my sig items 8. 1 Canon elph digital camera 9. Some kind of drink (water, gatorade, etc) 10. A small bag of snacks (crackers whatever) 11. My digital camera and GPS manuals just in case 12. Printouts of cache info (hints, maps, etc.) 13. A list of all locationless caches just in case I feel like looking for one 14. A small first aid kit Now when spring gets here and I start on the harder mountain caches, I will be taking more stuff with me. But for right now, I am only walking a mile from my car (max) in areas where there are usually people around. So my little backpack is fine for now! Link to comment
Tahosa and Sons Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 When around town, just some water and a first aid kit. But when I go into the hills its a pack full of stuff. And when I hunt bugs in Cat Country (Imajika will probably be visiting this place in the Spring) I carry some insurance. Link to comment
dead_white_man Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 Yeah I was just reading this thread thinking to myself "where are these people caching that they can legally carry their guns?" Most caches around here are in county and city parks and as far I know even with a permit you can’t carry your weapon in them. Even though I know many people that do anyway I choose to not too. I carry a Taurus .357 in the national forrest, or state forrest. not in parks. But since Ohio just passed a concealled carry loaw, I will very soon be permited to carry anywhere. Being a country boy, I would feel more comfortable "packing" on urban caches. Link to comment
+clearpath Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Being a country boy, I would feel more comfortable "packing" on urban caches. Wow, aren't we city dwellers lucky ... another redneck with an attitude. Link to comment
dead_white_man Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Wow, aren't we city dwellers lucky ... another redneck with an attitude. Whatever!! Link to comment
+Johnnie Stalkers Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Being a country boy, I would feel more comfortable "packing" on urban caches. Wow, aren't we city dwellers lucky ... another redneck with an attitude. I have a problem with this statement. We currently live in Ohio and I am thrilled with Ohio's decision to FINALLY allow concealed carry starting in April. Ani, who attends the University of Cincinnati, will be directly in front of me getting a permit ASAP. (BTW, she is half Cherokee) We both own and know how to use handguns. We do not have any appliances OR automobiles in our front yard. We currently have all of our teeth, except wisdom. Neither of us have ever had sex with one of our relatives. Pretty sure we don't fit your definition of 'redneck'. I am however offended by your presumption and use of the word. I have camped and hiked since I was 8 years old. Most frequented locations include Texas, Colorado, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Arizona, Kentucky, Ohio, Missouri and Indiana. (Someday we'll hit Yellowstone!) Not once have I come across an animal or been put in a situation where I felt I needed a gun to protect myself or my family while camping. As far as hiking or camping goes, I think pepper spray, a hiking staff and common sense are effective means of protection 99.9% of the time. But the choice to carry a firearm is no lighter or less valid because of the fact I realize common sense takes precedent. You don't have to agree with it. You don't have to condone it. But its wrong to use an ethnic slur to express your opinion. Link to comment
+Barefoot Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 GPS Compass.* Water. First Aid kit. Whistle* Space blanket* Leatherman Tool* Small flashlite. Hankie. pencils. Buck Knife. Snake bite Kit. waterproof matches* DEET Ziplock Bags. Cell phone. CITO bags. Trading stuff! Sometimes a walking stick. Sometimes munchies. * indicates found along the way stuff. Changes in weather/terraine may ad to what I carry. If it's raining add an umbrella to protect the cache when open and appropriate rain gear. It's the little things that sometimes save the day. See todays log GCG0YR! I've only met one other cacher on the trail while more than 100 ft from a road "Z". His pack was twice the size mine was.[] Link to comment
+seneca Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 (edited) I always pack my General Dynamics M1 Abrams with 120mm M256 smooth bore and M828 KE Tactical rounds. Edited January 18, 2004 by seneca Link to comment
+clearpath Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 We currently live in Ohio and I am thrilled with Ohio's decision to FINALLY allow concealed carry starting in April. Ani, who attends the University of Cincinnati, will be directly in front of me getting a permit ASAP. (BTW, she is half Cherokee) We both own and know how to use handguns. We do not have any appliances OR automobiles in our front yard. We currently have all of our teeth, except wisdom. Neither of us have ever had sex with one of our relatives. Pretty sure we don't fit your definition of 'redneck'. I am however offended by your presumption and use of the word. I have camped and hiked since I was 8 years old. Most frequented locations include Texas, Colorado, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Arizona, Kentucky, Ohio, Missouri and Indiana. (Someday we'll hit Yellowstone!) Not once have I come across an animal or been put in a situation where I felt I needed a gun to protect myself or my family while camping. As far as hiking or camping goes, I think pepper spray, a hiking staff and common sense are effective means of protection 99.9% of the time. But the choice to carry a firearm is no lighter or less valid because of the fact I realize common sense takes precedent. You don't have to agree with it. You don't have to condone it. But its wrong to use an ethnic slur to express your opinion. Please accept my sincere apology, Darryl, err ... or are you the other brother Darryl. Anyways, just what the city needs are more people willing to use handguns because they are scared of their own shadow. PS- don't get too bent out of shape, I am one of the biggest rednecks you ever saw. Link to comment
+Johnnie Stalkers Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Please accept my sincere apology, Darryl, err ... or are you the other brother Darryl. Anyways, just what the city needs are more people willing to use handguns because they are scared of their own shadow. PS- don't get too bent out of shape, I am one of the biggest rednecks you ever saw. I do agree that a lot of people who promote the right to carry a pistol around with them do so based on a mixture of ignorance and a Napoleon/masculinity complex. These fools get wheeled out on stage to display their inability to jump through a hoop every time someone wants to argue against CC. I am sorry to hear that you feel your community has more than its share of these imbeciles. The great majority of gun owners do not fit the above mentioned stereotype. Most gun owners are knowledgeable people, who understand the responsibility of the right given to them to carry a firearm. Let there be peace between us Clearpath. I have always appreciated your intelligence and the clarity of your comments here. The last thing I wanted was to begin a flame war with you or derail this thread. We now return you to your regularly scheduled discussion about Geo packing content. Link to comment
+clearpath Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Most gun owners are knowledgeable people, who understand the responsibility of the right given to them to carry a firearm. I hope that is the case ... Too many times, people feel like they HAVE to carry a firearm. I own many firearms, but rarely, if ever, feel like I need to carry one. So I don't. I know, to each his own. Let there be peace between us Clearpath. I have always appreciated your intelligence and the clarity of your comments here. The last thing I wanted was to begin a flame war with you or derail this thread. Peace it will be. You seem like a responsible gun owner and a gentleman. Also, you are one of the few that can keep Sparky-Watts in line (a formidable task). Link to comment
+Confucius' Cat Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 (edited) I have an essential that I don't think was listed before. Pants. Nude cacher would beg to differ with you on that one I don't understand why people insist on carrying everything AND the kitchen sink when caching. MOST caches are a ten minute walk down a well marked path in a frequently frequented place. The only "essential" is the GPSr, and that is debatable. I found my first cache without even that. Edited January 18, 2004 by ChurchCampDave Link to comment
+Confucius' Cat Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 <snip> But since Ohio just passed a concealled carry loaw, I will very soon be permited to carry anywhere. </snip> Better check carefully. I just looked at the new Ohio law on a web page (not Ohio's official page) and they are truly "beginners" in packing. They have so many limitations and "hoops" to jump through that they might as well not have passed the law at all. It is a start, but they will need a lot of revisions to make packing in Ohio practical or useful. e.g. you must display the piece openly and still "on your person" when carrying in a vehicle. What a nightmare that would be! It means keeping a second holster, somehow attached to your body where it can be clearly seen by anyone approaching your car. When you get in the car, you have to transfer the gun from your concealed holster to the open view holster. (Remember, each time you handle a loaded gun you increase your chances of an accidental discharge.) You are not allowed to touch it in any way if an officer approaches (DUH!), and you have to announce it to him and tell him where it is (without touching it). Also look at the list of the places you can't carry. It might as well read "cannot carry in public". Has anyone ever considered what to do with it when you go into Applebees? I guess if you pack you should only eat at McDonalds because they don't serve beer. Oh well, its a start. Link to comment
+DustyJacket Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 (edited) I have added to my load. My minimum load (i.e. for lunchtime or stealth caching): GPSr Spare batteries Palm PDA cell phone Minolta Dimage Xt (really small camera) Dachshund stamp and inking pens. (I now stamp the logs when I sign them.) Pocket flashlight. pen pocket knife (2.4") otherwise, I load up my Maxpendition FatBoy and add: logbook geoswag food trash bags extra logbook, pen, zip-lock for cache repair. More batteries more flashlights compass DustyJacket signature buttons wet wipes minor first aid kit bug juice throat lozenges, aspirin hiking staff When going into the woods, I swap in my CamelBak and add: 100 oz water D-cell flashlight emergency strobe survival blanket and other survival supplies more food FRS/GMRS radio poncho more trade goodies and cache repair stuff More first aid stuff (and have my trauma kit in the car) Dry socks, shirt, shorts in waterproof bag. bug spray, poison ivy rinse (Tecnu), chigger salve. and a selection of goodies particular for each cache from my trunk supplies: rope, climbing gear. 50-foot wire with clips at each end spare cache containers - fully stocked 50-foot measuring tape and so much more........it takes 2 small duffel bags to carry it all in my trunk. If I am with my car, I can last 3 days easily..... Edited January 18, 2004 by DustyJacket Link to comment
+Imajika Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Another gun debate!! Back to the topic..... I carry my items in a black leather backpack. Link to comment
+KiltCacher Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 ...50-foot wire with clips at each end... Is this needed to jumpstart the cache? Link to comment
+DustyJacket Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Just in case. Like if I want to clip a line (plastic coated 1/4" wire) before descending into something I might need help getting out of, or one of many other uses. Kind of an always be prepared sort of thing..... Link to comment
+seneca Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Another gun debate!! Actually, its not really a debate. Its just another demonstration of how its no fun to carry a concealed people killer if you can't go around and tell everybody about it. Its an ego thing. Everytime the topic "what do you take when you go geocaching", comes up, it provides a great opportunity to brag about the size of your cannon (and its attachments). Apparently its a compensation for being small in other areas. Link to comment
+Sparky-Watts Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 (edited) Another gun debate!! Actually, its not really a debate. Its just another demonstration of how its no fun to carry a concealed people killer if you can't go around and tell everybody about it. Its an ego thing. Everytime the topic "what do you take when you go geocaching", comes up, it provides a great opportunity to brag about the size of your cannon (and its attachments). Apparently its a compensation for being small in other areas. But I carry a snub-nosed .22 cal short revolver....so, what's that tell ya? Oh, but I have killed with my 9mm people killer. Wait, that's not accurate. My 9mm fist-sized whole blowing, brain matter splattering, wall paper organ pasting, lift-you-off-your-feet retroactive abortion machine. Edited January 18, 2004 by Sparky-Watts Link to comment
+Imajika Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 I carry a bazooka....just in case. You never know when you might come across a muggle. Colorado allows concealed weapons. I just stick the bazooka in my bra and away I go! WOOT! Link to comment
+Sparky-Watts Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 I carry a bazooka....just in case. You never know when you might come across a muggle. Colorado allows concealed weapons. I just stick the bazooka in my bra and away I go! WOOT! I'd pay to see that! Link to comment
+KiltCacher Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 I carry a bazooka....just in case. You never know when you might come across a muggle. Colorado allows concealed weapons. I just stick the bazooka in my bra and away I go! WOOT! Would that be a double-barreled bazooka? Link to comment
+KiltCacher Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Personally, I like to carry a tactical nuke down my pants...keeps me warm in the winter. Link to comment
+SixDogTeam Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 There are really only five crucial things to take: GPSr, Pencil, extra batteries, Leatherman, High caliber Personal Protection Device... Link to comment
+seneca Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 There are really only five crucial things to take: GPSr, Pencil, extra batteries, Leatherman, High caliber Personal Protection Device... If you have good reason to believe that, then I truly feel sorry for you. What a pathetic society you must live in. Link to comment
+Confucius' Cat Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Another gun debate!! Actually, its not really a debate. Its just another demonstration of how its no fun to carry a concealed people killer if you can't go around and tell everybody about it. Its an ego thing. Everytime the topic "what do you take when you go geocaching", comes up, it provides a great opportunity to brag about the size of your cannon (and its attachments). Apparently its a compensation for being small in other areas. I thought personal attacks and flames were outlawed on the new forums. Whazzup with that? No one ever said packing was meant to be fun, just common sense. Makes a whole lot more sense than the lists of thousand pounds of survival gear sufficient for a 2 year Antarctic expedition some seem to think they need to carry for a 50 foot walk into the woods. You are MUCH more likely to need a "concealed people killer" in today's society than you are to need a week's survival rations. (which BTW works a heck of a lot better than "throwing rocks", as suggested on another thread, if attacked by a wild four-legged critter) The subject of "what you carry" is about survival and equipment advice, not self-gratification. It is also not about bolstering YOUR ego by announcing how much *SUPERIOR* you are for being "above" such "an ego thing". Following your own logic, you must be attempting to make up for a lack of something on your part. Good for the goose- good for the gander. BTW, As for me, whether I'm big or small is of no concern to you; you aint gettin none of it. Link to comment
+robert Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 (edited) From seneca's profile: "Very opinionated. Often accused of having a big mouth. Try to be tolerant of other people's opinions even if I disagree with them (which is often!)" Everyone has the right to be opinionated, and I have no problems with yours. Just as long as you realize that they are indeed opinions. re: geocaching, a I was at a cache yesterday that definitely gave me the creeps, but I kept on the .3 mi hike down the lonely path to find it, then the same path on the way out. Had I encountered anything/anyone back there, I don't know that I would have been able to make it, but I was prepared to run if needed. I think in those cases it is a case of your mind getting ahead of you rather than any real sense of danger. Too many Friday the 13th movies. No "real" CCW laws here in MD, so my handgun was at home, though I also wonder how much more of a problem it would be to actually have it vs not have it. Guess it all depends on the situation. Edited January 19, 2004 by mrkablooey Link to comment
+Sparky-Watts Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Well, seeing as how this has turned into "yet another gun debate" and flame war, I'll post my last to this thread: I'd much rather have a gun with me and blow a hole through some scum that tries to take away my right to own and carry money and be healthy than just cower and whimper and let them take away all my rights, regardless of the size of my *****. Would I kill to protect myself? Heck yeah, I would and have. I'm not bragging, I'm just sure of what I will do if I need to. Next time someone sticks a knife in your ribs and demands money, I hope your big ***** makes you feel better as they are running away with all your money. He**, they'll probably cut you anyway, and still have your money. Good luck. Link to comment
+clearpath Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 (edited) Well, seeing as how this has turned into "yet another gun debate" and flame war, I'll post my last to this thread: I'd much rather have a gun with me and blow a hole through some scum that tries to take away my right to own and carry money and be healthy than just cower and whimper and let them take away all my rights, regardless of the size of my *****. Would I kill to protect myself? Heck yeah, I would and have. I'm not bragging, I'm just sure of what I will do if I need to. Next time someone sticks a knife in your ribs and demands money, I hope your big ***** makes you feel better as they are running away with all your money. He**, they'll probably cut you anyway, and still have your money. Good luck. Sparky, next time you are about to get mugged just whip out a picture of your avatar. Fear can be a very powerful weapon ... edit - spelling Edited January 19, 2004 by clearpath Link to comment
+Johnnie Stalkers Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Actually, its not really a debate. Its just another demonstration of how its no fun to carry a concealed people killer if you can't go around and tell everybody about it. Its an ego thing. Every time the topic "what do you take when you go geocaching", comes up, it provides a great opportunity to brag about the size of your cannon (and its attachments). Apparently its a compensation for being small in other areas. Seneca, If you are commenting on my discussion with Clearpath here then I don't think you followed our conversation very well. Do you actually think about what you type or do you derive satisfaction from crapping on other people and their beliefs? I ask that you consider whether or not the abusive venting of random aggression here is actually helping anyone. Link to comment
+seneca Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Do you actually think about what you type or do you derive satisfaction from crapping on other people and their beliefs? I give a lot of thought to what I type. I rarely take pleasure in crapping on anyone's beliefs, but there are some beliefs that I find to be so repugnant (child pornography comes to mind) that I will not hesitate for a moment to crap on them, and then crap on them again. Geocaching is a pleasant, uplifting, family oriented pastime that is good for the soul. Sorry, when I hear people posting over and over again that they can't do it without first equipping themselves to kill, then quite honestly, I just feel like taking a crap. That's just the way it is. Link to comment
+Confucius' Cat Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 (edited) You misunderstand those that pack. Matthew 24:43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. NIV (Verse is not completely in context, but relevant to the point- in THOSE days it was assumed that a man had a right to protect himself and his family- unlike today) Most of us who pack do so all the time unless prohibited. I don't think the packers who post here think they "can't do it without equipping themselves to kill", they just understand a simple fact of life: that you never know when you will need to protect yourself, therefore it is prudent to always be prepared. (and OBTW, I am "equipped to kill" whether or not I have a gun. To my recollection, the first recorded homicide happened a LONG TIME before the gun was invented.) Personally, if I felt the "need" to arm myself before going, I simply would not go. Only a pure fool deliberately walks into a situation where his life is in danger (person's whose job it is to do so excepted). I suppose you have thrown out your home fire extinguisher since living in a home is supposed to be a nice family oriented passtime and if you can't do it without first equipping yoursel to save your ash from fire you would just take a crap. (edit added bible verse and additional paranthetical thought) Edited January 19, 2004 by ChurchCampDave Link to comment
+Imajika Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Well, I was just joking when I made the 'another gun debate' comment. Personally, I don't own a gun but I respect the fact that some people here do. It's your choice to carry one...plain and simple. I don't really even have an opinion on guns. I choose not to carry one but if you want to, go for it! It's your CHOICE and you have a right to do so! Link to comment
+Mopar Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Short and sweet, and this relates to guns, extra water, first aid kits, and all the other things you will probably never need in your life while geocaching: It's better the have something and not need it, then to need something and not have it. Chances are most of us will never need a smoke detector. Would you rather have it, and never need it? Or need it, and not have it? Buh bye now. Link to comment
+Confucius' Cat Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 I cannot for the life of me understand what motivates people to abdicate their responsibility for their own safety and well being, naively trusting someone miles away that they don't even know to do it for them. Link to comment
+ifconfig Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 I give a lot of thought to what I type. I rarely take pleasure in crapping on anyone's beliefs, but there are some beliefs that I find to be so repugnant (child pornography comes to mind) that I will not hesitate for a moment to crap on them, and then crap on them again. Geocaching is a pleasant, uplifting, family oriented pastime that is good for the soul. Sorry, when I hear people posting over and over again that they can't do it without first equipping themselves to kill, then quite honestly, I just feel like taking a crap. That's just the way it is. Yes, I can see you do indeed give a lot of thought to crapping on others' beliefs. Like equating carrying a pistol with child pornography, yes, that is very thoughtful. Not at all inflammatory. Here's news, in case you didn't know: child pornography is against the law everywhere, carrying a concealed pistol is not (in almost 40 states, I believe). If you choose not to arm yourself even though you have the right to, perhaps "crapping" on others' belief and right to may not be the most open-minded thing you can do. Your kind of person believes, I'm sure, in the dictum of "live and let live". Whatever happened to that? I'm the same person carrying a concealed weapon that you will never see (except in lawful self-defense) as when I'm not carrying a weapon. How could you possibly tell the difference? By the way, the real "people killer" you're thinking of is the 3000lb car you're driving. It's drivers kill a heck of a lot more people per year. If you really feel that strongly against "equipping" yourself "to kill" when going caching, perhaps you're better off walking. Then again, you'll probably kill some unsuspecting ant or plantlife on the way so why bother? Link to comment
+seneca Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 ....Here's news, in case you didn't know: child pornography is against the law everywhere, carrying a concealed pistol is not (in almost 40 states, I believe). So let me get this straight, if child pornography was legal, you wouldn't have a problem with it?? Hmmm. Link to comment
+rusty_tlc Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Yall are livin' in a world different from mine. I come from the original frontier Alaska, Oregon, Nevada. Fewer folks tot'en around here than the rest of the lower fourty eight. Seems things have turned around from the old days, huh? Link to comment
+DustyJacket Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 The original topic was what do you carry when going geocaching. It would be nice for the folks arguing over arms take this to PM or its own topic and not turn every similar subject into the same old arguement. Link to comment
+maleki Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Somewhat back on topic: Don't carry your extra batteries in your pocket with loose change. When everything magically lines up correctly - as I recently had it happen - it can make for a BLISTERING hand(and leg) warmer. I was quite an amusing site to others along as I jumped around trying to get the superhot batteries and change out of my pocket. Really did end up blistering my fingers cause it was soooooo hot! Took several minutes for stuff to cool down enough to pick it up. I've carried batteries in pocket dozens of times as a last minute add-on and never had it happen. Really should have know better. Learned the hard(or amusing) way. Link to comment
dead_white_man Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Anyways, just what the city needs are more people willing to use handguns because they are scared of their own shadow. I have carried weapons most of the last 30 years, Some by choice and some because I was ordered to. I have drawn my weapon only once in defense ( in this hemisphere). There is a young lady in columbus who is grateful I was carrying ia weapon. In truth, the only time I have fired on a person was in asia and I will honestly say I was scared to death at the time. But it was not my shadow I was afraid of Link to comment
+ifconfig Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 (edited) ....Here's news, in case you didn't know: child pornography is against the law everywhere, carrying a concealed pistol is not (in almost 40 states, I believe). So let me get this straight, if child pornography was legal, you wouldn't have a problem with it?? Hmmm. To everything I posted, all you can muster is a flimsy ad hominem? Hmm... (whatever hmm... means) On topic: In my short time on the boards, I've seen time and again this question of what to carry while caching come up. I wonder why that is? Perhaps this is the reason for the recurrent posts? Edited January 20, 2004 by ifconfig Link to comment
+clearpath Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 To everything I posted, all you can muster is a flimsy ad hominem? Hmm... (whatever hmm... means) Let me help you out here ... 'Hmm or Hmmm' is a derivative of 'humph' which means, "used to express doubt or contempt". And after reading your post, I can see, Seneca used it correctly. Link to comment
Keystone Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 Sorry, I had not been checking this topic frequently. I figured, how much controversy could develop in a topic about what to carry in a geocaching backpack? The debate about firearms is over. Please stick to the topic of items to carry in one's backpack. It is OK for someone's list to include or not include a firearm or other personal protection device, but don't comment beyond that or this topic will have to be closed. Personal attacks and off topic posts (guns, not geocaching) are contrary to the Forum Guidelines. Thank you. Link to comment
+clearpath Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 Sorry, I had not been checking this topic frequently. I figured, how much controversy could develop in a topic about what to carry in a geocaching backpack? The debate about firearms is over. Please stick to the topic of items to carry in one's backpack. It is OK for someone's list to include or not include a firearm or other personal protection device, but don't comment beyond that or this topic will have to be closed. Personal attacks and off topic posts (guns, not geocaching) are contrary to the Forum Guidelines. Thank you. Does this mean my chance to fill a cabinet post is over ... When caching, I sometimes try to take as little as possible on the hunt. It can be more challenging to take only a GPS, small pencil and a trade item. Also, I have cached with a packpack loaded down with everything but the kitchen sink. Link to comment
+StarshipTrooper Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 Taurus model 85 .38 Special with 5 rounds of Silver Tip Hollow Points orGlock 17 9mm with 15 rounds of Black Talon Hollow Point (can't buy those anymore) Edit: Clarity I learned from a friend not to carry firearms into parks. snip stuff saw a box of ammo and asked about a weapon. He had it conceled on him, in the mayham he forgot to announce to the cop he had a legal conceled weapon. They got him for a firearm on public property, failure to announce to an officer a conceled weapon and a list of other offenses. Yeah I was just reading this thread thinking to myself "where are these people caching that they can legally carry their guns?" Most caches around here are in county and city parks and as far I know even with a permit you can’t carry your weapon in them. Even though I know many people that do anyway I choose to not too. But it does bring the argument in whose favor would the law be in? Say you are walking through the park and some thug with a gun jumps out from around a tree with his gun pointing it at you, you draw and give him a double tap. Perp is dead, you shot him in self-defense, but you weren’t supposed to have the gun there to begin with but of course neither was he. So whom does the law favor in this case? The crack head willing to do anything for his next fix? Or the armed citizen, who was minding his own business, has a CCW permit and shoots 200 rounds every other week at the range with the weapon he carries? In GA you don’t have to inform law enforcement that you have a weapon, of course if they ask it’s a good idea to tell them. I can only think of one time that I actually took my weapon with me on a hunt and it was in an area that it was legal for me to take it. It was also in a questionable part of Atlanta and I have no clue why the owner picked that area for a cache to begin with! Glock 23 40 cal with Remington golden sabers, and Federal hydra-shoks Hope this doesn't set off keystone's alarm, I thought it fitting to mention to Ramness that the law is different in each state - just as it is different in various locations in regards to hiding geocaches. You must check the laws yourself for either. Some of us can legally carry in our state darn near anywhere. Others are more restricted. Lucky me, I live in the free state of Idaho! My geopack usually includes: compass first aid kit water snacks extra batteries mechanics magnet mechanics mirror headlamp surefire flashlight pen camera cellphone and trade items Other stuff changes according to weather and distance from the mother ship. -ST Link to comment
Keystone Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 I said that the discussion of firearms was over. I guess I wasn't clear. Closing this topic. Link to comment
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