+Navdog Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Was that an airplane that just went by? No, I think it was a Canadian Goose. Quote Link to comment
Jomarac5 Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Was that an airplane that just went by? No, I think it was a Canadian Goose. Whatever it was, it was way over your head. ***** Geo 97MX Quote Link to comment
Jomarac5 Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 (edited) ju66l3r, hypothetically, would this database be available for not-for-profit and for-profit organizations? Would for-profit organizations hypothetically speaking, be requirred to offer some sort of financial reimbursement to assist in offsetting the costs? Would there be restrictions on the use of this hypothetical database? If so, what kinds of restrictions? ***** Geo 90 Edit: typo Edited December 10, 2003 by Jomarac5 Quote Link to comment
ju66l3r Posted December 10, 2003 Author Share Posted December 10, 2003 ju66l3r, hypothetically, would this database be available for not-for-profit and for-profit organizations? Would for-profit organizations hypothetically speaking, be requirred to off some sort of financial reimbursement to assist in offsetting the costs? Would there be restrictions on the use of this hypothetical database? If so, what kinds of restrictions? ***** Geo 90 In this situation, the database would not necessarily be "available". It would only be accessable through the SDK or the website. In that degree, anyone using the SDK to access the data would agree to a ToS/ToU that would be modelled along the lines of something similar to Google's SDK/API kit. There is a link earlier to reference. One example of the restrictions based on that ToU is related above in the thread as well. Quote Link to comment
+Bloencustoms Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 The only way I would consider moving to another site would be if they offered more fun. How much fun do you hypothetically plan to offer? Quote Link to comment
+bons Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Can I expect this hypothetical service to bring in enough funding to afford to offer everything gc.com offers and more and if so, is this hypothetical service willing to tell me where it's getting the funding from? Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 It all depends. Here is the long and short of it. If your site is private I don't see that as in the long run interest of geocaching. GC and NV both serve my interests at present and are private. If your site has no means of dealing with land managers responsibly, then your site would be part of the problem. If your listing rules make it harder than it needs to be to list then there is no reason to go there. If your TOS is junk there is no reason to go there. If it’s good though that’s a reason to consider it. If your site doesn't recognize the up and coming local and national groups and defer responsibility to them if they want it then there is no reason to change. If your site was everything that I think a site should be, then odds are I'd list my new caches there even if they were the only caches listed. I wouldn’t cross post. If I decided to list my existing caches there I’d archive them on the existing sites. Quote Link to comment
+Gorak Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 (edited) Why should it be a problem if another listing site has a waypoint destination near on that is on this site? The point (which is not on-topic any longer) is that Gorak also claimed to list on another site and THEN post those same caches to this site. One vs. the other being nearby is not a problem. Navdog's suggestion would effectively block Gorak's listing to this site because his caches would not satisfy the 0.1 mi rule and he would lose a large market share of the visitors to his caches. Hey - fair's fair. If I list a cache on NV, then someone comes along and places a cache within 160m of it that they list on GC, I can live without listing my cache on GC. If they get listing on GC first, good on them. What's the problem? And who cares about 'market share' on a cache? Are we competing with other caches now? ________________ Gorak Geo 121 104 Edited December 11, 2003 by Gorak Quote Link to comment
+canadazuuk Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 As a matter of fact, my next two caches, which are ready to place, will be listed exclusively on NC for the first few weeks/months in an effort to get more people locally to visit NC when looking for caches. Can we bet on this? It's fine to list in as many places as you feel led, as long as it is for the right reasons... Quote Link to comment
+Gorak Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Can we bet on this? I'm not a gambling man, myself, but don't let me stop you. It's fine to list in as many places as you feel led, as long as it is for the right reasons... I'll bite, what are the wrong reasons? ___________ Gorak Geo 25 97U 20 Quote Link to comment
ju66l3r Posted December 11, 2003 Author Share Posted December 11, 2003 is this hypothetical service willing to tell me where it's getting the funding from? No, not the point of this thread. I am looking for answers to my questions on this hypothetical situation. Quote Link to comment
+hikemeister Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 I would continue to put my caches on the GC.com site, and am not interested at this time in having them listed on multiple sites. I see no benefits to doing that. Everyone who is a geocacher knows about this site, so why do I need an alternative location? HM Quote Link to comment
ju66l3r Posted December 11, 2003 Author Share Posted December 11, 2003 I would continue to put my caches on the GC.com site, and am not interested at this time in having them listed on multiple sites. I see no benefits to doing that. Everyone who is a geocacher knows about this site, so why do I need an alternative location? HM To help elucidate on hikemeister's point, I think I will start another thread. I appreciate everyone's comments so far and I think it has helped to clear up some of the misconceptions some people might have about the usefulness of having other geocaching websites and the incompatibility of "don't like it, leave" as a mantra. Please feel free to continue posting your answers to my initial questions if you have not already or if you would like to alter your answers. Quote Link to comment
+welch Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 If you have hidden caches and listed them here, would you also go list them at my site even if you are not interested in using my site's services? Why/Why not? Probably. If your site appeals to me in some way. If I contacted you directly about copying your information with no effort required on your behalf, would you give the same blanket license to your copyrighted information as you do GC.com? Why/Why not? Sounds better, but it would still depend on the site's appeal. (what can it do for me?) Quote Link to comment
+Keith Watson Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 There it is, the secret to attract any one. "What is in it for me?" Quote Link to comment
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