+GPS Guy Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 NOAA has posted a story here: http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories/s1055.htm The FCC has approved a NOAA request to allow hikers and outdoor enthusiasts access to the same technology that pilots and ships use to signal for rescue. Available July1, 2003. Comments, please. Quote Link to comment
+Cachier Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 Excellent topic. It reminded me of an article that Backpacker magazine featured about a year ago. A minister took some time off to hike in the wildnerness mountains but became entrapped when a boulder slid, pinning his leg. AFter many agonizing days, he died of dehydration and exposure only a few days before he was discovered. Timely help could have saved his life. The beacon will become basic outdoors survival gear for backpackers and hikers . "When you find it, its always in the last place you look." Quote Link to comment
magellan315 Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 Great idea, finally something in case you are in an area with no cell phone reception. Just wish I didn't have to wait until next summer. Quote Link to comment
Cache Canucks Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 ...that the U.S. seems to be 'behind the curve' when it comes to getting something like this approved. PLB's authorized for land use are already available up in this neck of the woods: GyPSI 406 PLB Search and Rescue Canada Quote Link to comment
Kerry. Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 Bit behind the 8 ball when compared to the rest of the world. Good to see some decisions which should have been made years ago. Cheers, Kerry. I never get lost everybody keeps telling me where to go Quote Link to comment
+lostinjersey Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 Once we get E911 equipped cell phones as the norm it won't be as useful, except in areas where there is no cell reception (which actually is a fair amount of the territory where geocachers & hikers go) Among the top selling cell phones only one is 911 equipped, and even then your area must provide the right coverage. So for now it's a good thing. an expensive thing, but a good thing... Someone commented on USA being behind the curve. I won't go off-topic too much except to say that A) they're right and Americans think they're the kings of the world but they're not. If I say one more word I'll really be off topic so I'll shut up now. William www.gpswnj.com Quote Link to comment
+sbukosky Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 I'll reserve judgement about it being a good thing once we see how many false alarms are triggered. I once belonged to the Civil Air Patrol as a pilot. Our mission was to track down crash locator beacons. 99%+ of them were on airports from planes making a hard landing and the pilot unaware that the ELT was activated. These aviation ELT's were silent. I hope the civilian version has some audible indication that it is tripped, otherwise it could cause huge problems for the search and rescue teams, not to mention the time and expense. Further, I hope some registration is needed to purchase one and that the ELT has some digital signature to it. Any false alarm, unintentional or not, could cause a real emergency to get a delayed response. I'll bite my tongue on the off topic trash. Steve Bukosky N9BGH Waukesha Wisconsin Quote Link to comment
Kerry. Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 Certainly 121.5/243mHz Epirb's have there share of problems with false alerts and it's probably more than 99% but then there's also the 12 oddd thousand people that can directly attrib their existence to the system 121.5 or not. But at least fixing this false alert issue is in progress and hopefully 406's will/might/could solve "most" of the probelm (if registered). Registration is one of the strong points with 406's if it's made a condition when purchasing. Cheers, Kerry. I never get lost everybody keeps telling me where to go Quote Link to comment
GeoStars Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 although I doubt that the majority of false trips will be without knowledge of the owner. I see a slightly different scenario, people calling out S&R because they're cold, they twisted an ankle, are just *too tired* to hike back, or a million other non-emergent situations that use up valuable resources best left for true emergencies. I'm not completely against safety nets and can see where this technology could occasionally save lives. I can also see it being abused, especially by those that really shouldn't be doing backcountry trekking but feel they can because help is just a button-push away. GeoMedic - team leader of GeoStars Quote Link to comment
SNIFTER Posted October 20, 2002 Share Posted October 20, 2002 Well it seems that for once Australia is way ahead of the Americans. We can buy or hire Epirbs at most camping shops and have been able to for quite a while. If you intend to go hiking in our Snowy Mountains and get lost and you don't have an emergency beacon you get fined. The National Parks and Wildlife service hire them out and also have a log book for you to log your intended path. I haven't heard of any false alarms to date so I take it that either there hasn't been any or they are too few to mention. They are also not cheap so it is the serious hiker that owns one and they aren't the ones to cry wolf. Quote Link to comment
+Alan2 Posted October 20, 2002 Share Posted October 20, 2002 Behind the curve? If we left it up to the Americans we would never have had a GPS system. Alan Queens, NY, USA Quote Link to comment
Cache Canucks Posted October 21, 2002 Share Posted October 21, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Alan2:Behind the curve? If we left it up to the Americans we would never have had a GPS system. Alan Queens, NY, USA You lost me there. If it wasn't for the U.S. DoD, there wouldn't *be* a Global Positioning System. Quote Link to comment
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