+Xitron Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 I'm curious, is it ok to log a find if you have already done it before? Does it make a difference if it is a 1 or a 5? The reason I'm asking is that I have recently seen some "found it" logs that stated that this was their second time finding the cache. Is it ok to log it if there is more then one person in the team and each one did it on a different day? What is the general opinion of double logging? Quote Link to comment
+GeoCraig Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 Sometimes I will log a note if I drop by a cache for the second time and it hasn't been visited in a while--something like, "Stopped by cache--it's still there and in fine shape." Quote Link to comment
ChiefPig Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Xitron:Is it ok to log it if there is more then one person in the team and each one did it on a different day? What is the general opinion of double logging? Tough call. It might be up to the cache owner at the end. Quote Link to comment
+Brian - Team A.I. Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 Those people are only cheating themselves. It's not like when you lose the remote...AGAIN, that it's really cool to find it...AGAIN. One cache, one find. Unless reincarnated in the form of a new cache in an area where one was archived. If I visit a cache again for whatever reason (to drop of a TB, for example), I log the note to log it into the cache. Quote Link to comment
+Bloencustoms Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 You are going to have a lot of responses to this thread that agree that you should only list one "found it" type log on an individual cache page. I agree that is the right thing to do for single stage regular caches. Multicaches are a little different in my opinion, but I am in the minority in that respect. To date, however, I have never logged more than one find per cache page (regardless of how many times I have visited it). In addition, subsequent visits for the purpose of collecting prized trade items are frowned upon. [This message was edited by Bloencustoms on March 32, 1999 at 25:60 PM] Quote Link to comment
+Xitron Posted October 5, 2003 Author Share Posted October 5, 2003 Ok let me ask a specific question. If two people share a account, one person does the cache alone one day and logs a find, does the other person get to go find the cache alone and log a find him/herself? I have seen multiple logs with the same name, but if it is a family doing it at different times I wouldn't have a problem with it. However if the same person does it again I think it should be placed as a note not a find. Multi's in my opinion are one cache one find. Quote Link to comment
+Bloencustoms Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 Really, the find count isn't all that important, but if you want to keep an accurate record of how many caches the family has found, the subsequent team members should post notes rather than finds. [This message was edited by Bloencustoms on March 32, 1999 at 25:60 PM] Quote Link to comment
+Xitron Posted October 5, 2003 Author Share Posted October 5, 2003 That sounds like the way to go, but I will not fault others for logging finds that another family member did earlier. As a single male I don't have this problem, but can see others in the logs have had issues. Quote Link to comment
+Team GPSaxophone Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Xitron:Ok let me ask a specific question. If two people share a account, one person does the cache alone one day and logs a find, does the other person get to go find the cache alone and log a find him/herself? If I find a cache by myself and log it, I don't log another find if I take the family back and let them find it. One find per cache per account. If I go back to a cache with the family and we have an experience worth sharing, I may post a NOTE the second time but not another find. Took sun from sky, left world in eternal darkness Quote Link to comment
+Xitron Posted October 5, 2003 Author Share Posted October 5, 2003 I agree with that Team GPS but what if another member goes and finds it by his/her self with no help from the orginal finder? Quote Link to comment
+Team GPSaxophone Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 If the wife wants her own find count, she can create her own account. All finds with the name 'Team GPSaxophone' have included one or all of us. I've been there at all of them. Took sun from sky, left world in eternal darkness Quote Link to comment
+Xitron Posted October 5, 2003 Author Share Posted October 5, 2003 Two words marriage counsler!! lol j/k Quote Link to comment
+mtn-man Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 The other family member should create their own account. My wife has her own accout, but she rarely caches. Shoot, for that matter, the puppymonster has his own GC.com account. I have considered going back and letting him log his finds. He just doesn't type that well. mtn-man... admin brick mason Quote Link to comment
+Team GPSaxophone Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 A marriage counselor would tell me not to go caching without her. How am I supposed to get FTF that way? Took sun from sky, left world in eternal darkness Quote Link to comment
+Xitron Posted October 5, 2003 Author Share Posted October 5, 2003 Simple, drag her but out of bed at 4:00am and stuff her in the car. Quote Link to comment
Sax Man's Wife Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Xitron:Simple, drag her but out of bed at 4:00am and stuff her in the car. If he drags me out of bed at 4:00 in the morning im coming after you!!! Quote Link to comment
+Xitron Posted October 5, 2003 Author Share Posted October 5, 2003 OMG!!! Ignore all my previous posts!!!! lol Quote Link to comment
+mtn-man Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Sax Man's Wife: quote:Originally posted by Xitron:Simple, drag her but out of bed at 4:00am and stuff her in the car. If he drags me out of bed at 4:00 in the morning im coming after you!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That may be one of the funniest post I have seen!!! mtn-man... admin brick mason Quote Link to comment
+Team GPSaxophone Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 She begged and pleaded for her own account. Guess I'd better watch what I say on here from now on Took sun from sky, left world in eternal darkness Quote Link to comment
ChiefPig Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Sax Man's Wife: quote:Originally posted by Xitron:Simple, drag her but out of bed at 4:00am and stuff her in the car. If he drags me out of bed at 4:00 in the morning im coming after you!!! LOL! Now that IS funny! Quote Link to comment
+JMBella Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 That's it. Bella getting her own account. Sax Man's Wife: THWACK! (sound of her hitting Xitron in head with ammo box) Two roads diverged in a wood, and I- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. Because now I am Lost. Quote Link to comment
SombreHippie Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 On the caches I go for without Puppy, I always re-visit the cache with him so he can find it himself, or I can show it to him. Or he just sneaks out there without me noticing then tells me so afterwards. Since we only use one account to log, I just post a note on the page to say he was there, and what trades he made if he made any, along with any sort of story from the visit. While it may not be about numbers, I'd rather not have 2 "finds" for the same cache. It just feels like 'cheating' to me, and I know there's always somebody that will point it out and complain. A great serial killer once said, "Beauty is only skin deep. Trust me, I've looked..." Quote Link to comment
Bella Il Cane Dal Nascondiglio Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Infine ottengo il mio proprio cliente. Non ho sembrato giusto che non poiché sono quello che trova solitamente tutti i nascondigli e prenderebbe loro l'accreditamento per. esseri umani di f$@!ng. (Finally I get my own account. I didn't seem fair that I didn't since I'M the one that usually finds all the caches and HE would take credit for them. f#$@!ng humans.) Quote Link to comment
+sept1c_tank Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 quote: I have never logged more than one find per cache page There can be exceptions to the one cache, one find rule. In a recent event cache, there were 10 temporary caches placed for the eventees. Since they were temporary, there was no cache page for the individual caches. Everyone who attended the event (and found the temporary caches) has logged multiple finds on the event page (as per the instructions of the event planner). Originally posted by puppymonster quote: WOOF! Good to hear you're well, puppymonster, and congratulations on your very first woof in the forums! Tell mtn-man I said "hi!" ==============="If it feels good...do it"================ **(the other 9 out of 10 voices in my head say: "Don't do it.")** . Quote Link to comment
+RainbowCache Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 quote:Originally posted by puppymonster:WOOF! Puppymonster, a simple WOOF! is all you would need to log a Cache. I can see it now...A dog with more finds than me, simply because MTN-MAN is his master. Make sure to log you finds J.C.!! Bob ~ Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese... Isn't the best way to save face to keep the lower part shut?...Stephen Wright Quote Link to comment
+TMAN264 Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 I logged the local bug hotel as a find once, and then as a note on subsequent visits. Make a sanity check. Quote Link to comment
+Team GPSaxophone Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 quote:Originally posted by sept1c_tank:In a recent event cache, there were 10 temporary caches placed for the eventees. Since they were temporary, there was no cache page for the individual caches. Everyone who attended the event (and found the temporary caches) has logged multiple finds on the event page (as per the instructions of the event planner). I don't agree with this either. It's the same as logging multiple finds for a multi-cache just because it has more stages than a traditional cache. What is the benefit to this? You increase your numbers falsely? There is no prize for having more finds than others. Took sun from sky, left world in eternal darkness Quote Link to comment
+MaxEntropy Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 quote:Originally posted by J&MBella:That's it. Bella getting her own account. Sax Man's Wife: THWACK! (sound of her hitting Xitron in head with ammo box) THWACK? What ever that was, it wasn't an ammo box. Every cacher knows the unmistakable CLANG of an ammo box. Mickey Max Entropy More than just a name, a lifestyle. Quote Link to comment
+sept1c_tank Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 quote: I don't agree with this either. It's the same as logging multiple finds for a multi-cache just because it has more stages than a traditional cache. I don't agree with logging multiple finds for a multi cache either. That's one cache with stages, usually required to find inorder to find the actual cache. In this case, each cache was unrelated to the others. It was 10 seperate caches. It was not necessary to find all 10, or any, for that matter. And there was no specific order in which to do them. But because they were temporary caches, there were not seperate cache pages. Each cache was available for one day only. Would it have made a difference if the same 10 caches had 10 different pages, and were all activated on the same day and then archived on the same day? That seems silly to me. And would certainly be a lot of work for the approvers. In another light, it was just like having 10 different event caches at the same general location, all sponsered by the same party and available to the same people in attendance. Why shouldn't these be treated as seperate caches? All the rules for the caches were the same as any listed cache page. Granted, there were not logbooks in the caches. But there was another way of logging them. To verify that you visited the cache, you had to retrieve a standardized item. And they did not build to one final cache or provide a prize for finders. They were simply 10 caches in different parts of the park. This event was sponsered by the Indiana Geocaching Association. This practice is not uncommon in some other associations. ==============="If it feels good...do it"================ **(the other 9 out of 10 voices in my head say: "Don't do it.")** . Quote Link to comment
+Bloencustoms Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Did any of the temporary caches pass approval by the site admins? If not, should the finds count on this site? (Not that I care about stats, just a question.) [This message was edited by Bloencustoms on March 32, 1999 at 25:60 PM] Quote Link to comment
+sept1c_tank Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Originally posted by Bloencustoms:Did any of the temporary caches pass approval by the site admins? If not, should the finds count on this site? (Not that I care about stats, just a question.) The local approver was intimately involved in planning the event and the temporary caches. And I don't care about stats either. I just like to log the caches I've found. (Since the temp caches were logged on the event page, they are manifested as event caches in the stats.) ==============="If it feels good...do it"================ **(the other 9 out of 10 voices in my head say: "Don't do it.")** . Quote Link to comment
+Bloencustoms Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Thanks for clarifying. It makes sense, but I have also heard people say that one event = one find. I have also heard that a new (not the old event page) event memorial cache placed on the site should not be logged as a find by people that attended said event. I don't necessarily agree with that. I have yet to log a memorial cache placed for an event I attended, but plan to. (It is, however about half a mile from the site of the event.) [This message was edited by Bloencustoms on March 32, 1999 at 25:60 PM] Quote Link to comment
The Cuthberts Posted October 7, 2003 Share Posted October 7, 2003 I have moved two caches a couple of hundred yards away from their original locations but have maintained the original logbooks. I would not mind, in fact would even persuade an additional 'find and log' as the hiding places are vastly different. There are a few caches that I revisit but I usually just add a note saying that 'I dropped off a TB' or 'cache waterlogged' etc. Just my addition to the barbecue. Andy Quote Link to comment
+Team GPSaxophone Posted October 7, 2003 Share Posted October 7, 2003 An event cache should get one find. It doesn't matter if there are 10 temporary caches or none. If the temp. caches are to count as separate finds, they should be submitted to the site as regular caches and go through the normal approval process. They should be in place long afer the event, as temporary caches will not be approved. Since the admins will not approve temporary caches, they shouldn't count as finds at an event. Took sun from sky, left world in eternal darkness Quote Link to comment
+sept1c_tank Posted October 7, 2003 Share Posted October 7, 2003 But the admins will approve a permanent cache, and the owner can archive it after 24 hours. The only difference is the lack of a cache page. You say potato; I say potahto. ==============="If it feels good...do it"================ **(the other 9 out of 10 voices in my head say: "Don't do it.")** . Quote Link to comment
Sax Man's Wife Posted October 7, 2003 Share Posted October 7, 2003 quote:Originally posted by MaxEntropy: quote:Originally posted by J&MBella:That's it. Bella getting her own account. Sax Man's Wife: THWACK! (sound of her hitting Xitron in head with ammo box) THWACK? What ever that was, it wasn't an ammo box. Every cacher knows the unmistakable CLANG of an ammo box. Mickey Max Entropy More than just a name, a lifestyle. Full ammo boxes go THWACK Quote Link to comment
+Xitron Posted October 7, 2003 Author Share Posted October 7, 2003 I don't remember hearing it just waking up about an hour later. Quote Link to comment
Sax Man's Wife Posted October 7, 2003 Share Posted October 7, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Xitron:I don't remember hearing it just waking up about an hour later. Thats right Xitron you better watch out. I got a full ammo box in my garage with your name on it. Quote Link to comment
+Xitron Posted October 7, 2003 Author Share Posted October 7, 2003 I'll ask Sax to make it a night only cache!! lol Quote Link to comment
+Team GPSaxophone Posted October 7, 2003 Share Posted October 7, 2003 What should I call it? Took sun from sky, left world in eternal darkness Quote Link to comment
+Xitron Posted October 7, 2003 Author Share Posted October 7, 2003 How about DUCK!!!! Quote Link to comment
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