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That can't be real. Everyone knows that geocachers can only do good things. A geocacher would never steal a cache, or litter in the woods, or bushwhack a trail to a cache, or go on private property to seek or hide a cache. Geocachers only do good. GOOD I tell you!!! icon_rolleyes.gif

 

It does my heart good when a random ****wit does something as obvious as this - at least to make everyone realize that not everyone is gonna "do the right thing" all the time. I got so tired of hearing people defend geocachers, almost as if "geocacher" implies that the person is a better human being.

 

Looks like that geocacher needs some advice from Miss Manners, eh?

 

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HAHAHAHA!!!!! Looks like someone doesn't realize that by registering as a geocacher the admins have their IP address (and home addresses available through your friendly local ISP). Add to that an admission of stealing someone else's property and providing evidence with a photo and you're just one ticked off geocacher away from a nice stay at the ol' Graybar Hotel. HAHAHAHA!!!!!

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Not to mention the guy who's waiting for you in the shrubbery outside your front door......

 

If your house catches afire, and there ain?t no water around,

If your house catches afire, and there ain?t no water around,

Throw your jelly out the window; let the dog-gone shack burn down.

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The standard reply to "Call the Cops" is that the bad guy won't do jail time. Not important. What is important is that this chucklehead gets processed.

 

First, you track down the address of where he is living in his Mom's basement. You serve a search warrant on Mommy, and take all the firearms and computers, and all containers that look like the dark box in the picture (making Mom happy that Grandpa's gun is gone and her jewelry box is gone.) Then you take the computer for evidence of using a common carrier for making terroristic threats. By the time the cops have had a chance to wade through the drug dealers computers they already have, to get to his, he will be without a PC for a while, (HAHAHA icon_smile.gif )

 

The ISP gets to either dump him or face losing their connection. So he gets to register for a new AOL account. The cops get to rifle through his hard disk and find that Klingon Porn starring the 15 year old porn queen, and our little buddy gets to spend a long time convincing some Crank-head biker that he didn't get sent to prison for kiddie porn...All for stealing 10 bucks worth of cache....

 

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Is it ok to e-mail this jerk a non-threatening e-mail just telling him what I think of him? Or does this not justify any attention to himwhatsoever. his profile says "Shoreline WA", he's probably one of the georaiders. He's the guy nobody liked in school. I just want to ask him if anyone has told him he's a complete idiot. But he's probably an incomplete idiot. He gives a bad name to the human race. He jumpd in the gene pool when the lifeguards weren't watching. Definitely has a couple of lights out in the old marquis. The lights are on but nobody's home. No insulation in his attic! I mean look at this profile: Profile for Nimbus510 (Nimbus510)

Member since November, 2002

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Alternate email: nimbus510@hotmail.com

Last visit: 11/5/2002

 

Caches Found/Hidden: 1/0

Travel Bugs Owned/Found: 0/0

Benchmarks Found: 0

 

Occupation: Thief

Location: Shoreline, WA

 

Background:

Watch out for your caches, because I'm gonna steal them all, and be the god of geocaching. Yeah, that's right.

 

Other Hobbies:

Stealing caches

 

What a maroon! He's now the guy no one will like as an adult. pea brained nincompoop, moron, creep, A$$***E! He's the hemmorhoid on the flea in the camel's armpit!

I'm not being to hard on him am I? I wouldn't want to sound threatening in any way. Because I am not threatening him, just telling him how I feel about his intelligence or lack thereof.

 

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He's probably some 17 year old punk with few friends and too much time on his hands. Like Magellan315 says, he'll probably lose interest in a short time and go back to spraypainting graffiti on railroad trestles.

 

"You can't make a man by standing a sheep on its hind legs, but by standing a flock of sheep in that position, you can make a crowd of men" -Max Beerbohm

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I agree that ignoring this person is the best way to go. Nine times out of ten, these sorts get bored quickly if they do not receive attention for their deeds, and then move on to their next form of entertainment.

 

What's really sad is that this was Seattle's oldest existing cache. The owner is long gone.

 

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Originally posted by Moun10Bike:

What's really sad is that this was Seattle's oldest existing cache. The owner is long gone.


 

Sounds like it might be a good idea for someone to adopt this cache and archive it long enough for this dope to move on. Then the new owner could replace the cache and the "oldest cache" could live on. Just a thought...

 

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Originally posted by carleenp:

It seems to me that contacting the person would just reinforce his behavior. He probably likes the negative attention. If he gets ignored he might get bored and quit stealing caches.


 

Bingo. If people e-mail that user in a fit of outrage, he or she will probably just sit there with their friends - laughing at all the anger they have caused. That's the way it usually is, anyway - if someone is willing to be blatantly rotten like that, they usually will get a chuckle out of it when people are pissed about it.

 

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Originally posted by GeoIA:

 

Sounds like it might be a good idea for someone to adopt this cache and archive it long enough for this dope to move on.


 

I've sent mail to our local club to see if anyone is willing to adopt it. It had gotten a bit long in the tooth since the owner had abandoned it, so maybe this whole incident will end up breathing new life into it.

 

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The sad thing is that his profile indicates that he's been registered since 11/02, but found his first cache within, at the most, five days after he registered. This would lead me to believe that there's a chance he's a regular already-active geocacher who created a sock puppet account just for raiding caches using a yahoo account set up just for the purpose of having his account activated without having any real means of being identified (notice the similarity of his alternate e-mail address).

 

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I banned the account and his IP. If it is static he can't get to the site now.

 

Unfortunately he can just create another account in a matter of minutes. Also, I don't believe many (if any) ISP's use static IP addresses (correct me if I'm wrong), so he can come back as often as he likes as long as he goes through the trouble of creating accounts and Hotmail ID's.

 

I hate to say this, but perhaps Jeremy should not allow any Hotmail, Yahoo, or similar e-mail addresses. I know of some websites that don't allow their use. It certainly would cut down on the sockpuppet ID's and users like this. I also think that the coordinates and maybe even the cache page, should only be available to registered users. Perhaps an unregisterd user would get a simple list of the names and distance of nearby caches if they do a zipcode search.

 

Otherwise someone like this can just keep stealing caches until the the cows come home.

 

"You can't make a man by standing a sheep on its hind legs, but by standing a flock of sheep in that position, you can make a crowd of men" -Max Beerbohm

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Originally posted by BrianSnat:

I hate to say this, but perhaps Jeremy should not allow any Hotmail, Yahoo, or similar e-mail addresses. I know of some websites that don't allow their use.


I think this would cause a major inconvenience for lots of folks here.

 

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I also think that the coordinates and maybe even the cache page, should only be available to registered users. Perhaps an unregisterd user would get a simple list of the names and distance of nearby caches if they do a zipcode search.


 

ROFL!!! Out of all the stupid things I've heard in the forums so far, this has got to be the stupidest thing I ever heard. This is something that will never happen. Where do you get these crazy ideas anyway?

 

I know...let me just Markwell you over to here icon_smile.gif

 

[This message was edited by cachew nut on November 06, 2002 at 08:31 PM.]

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I also noticed this post and wondered if it was a joke or not. I live in the area and just started caching in Sept. We just hit our 40th cache and were starting to think about planting one of our own. I saw this thread and thought it would be a great idea to adopt this one if someone else hasn't already volunteered. Moun10Bike, I have emailed you re this. It's a great little park and definitely needs to have a cache in it.

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Originally posted by BrianSnat:

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I banned the account and his IP. If it is static he can't get to the site now.

 

Unfortunately he can just create another account in a matter of minutes.


 

That's true often but I have more info than their IP address.

 

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briansnat quote:

I also think that the coordinates and maybe even the cache page, should only be available to registered users. Perhaps an unregisterd user would get a simple list of the names and distance of nearby caches if they do a zipcode search.


 

ROFL!!! Out of all the stupid things I've heard in the forums so far, this has got to be the stupidest thing I ever heard. This is something that will never happen. Where do you get these crazy ideas anyway?


 

Rather than ridiculing the idea, kindly explain why it's the stupidest thing you've ever heard in the forums (speaking of stupid, you do not HEAR things in the forums, you READ them). It seems to me to be a common sense method of cutting down on cache plundering. Making people register before they can see the coordinates would cut out some (of course not all) of this practice.

 

Heck, I've read some really stupid statements in these forums, but I don't see how this is the "stupidest". It may be open to debate, but stupid? Does it really beat the eating of red meat bending GPS signals?

 

"You can't make a man by standing a sheep on its hind legs, but by standing a flock of sheep in that position, you can make a crowd of men" -Max Beerbohm

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Had I read the Markwelled thread before responding, I would have realized you were being facetious. Frankly I agree with much of what you said there.

 

"You can't make a man by standing a sheep on its hind legs, but by standing a flock of sheep in that position, you can make a crowd of men" -Max Beerbohm

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