+Bob&TheGang Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 Has anyone found a cache that was a real natural rock (not some kind of fake rock) that was hollowed out for a small Tupperware cache container? I not talking about 35mm container. I talking about something bigger (like a square 5 inch X 5 inch X 3 inch deep container). I already have the rock. Now I just need a way to hallow it out. The only plan I can think of is to get a 3/4 masonry bit and drill a whole bunch of holes into the rock to fit the Tupperware container. My only concern is the rock will crack in half when I start drilling into it. Any suggestions on the best way to get this done would be greatly appreciated. - Bobkat92 & the 3 Bears "To me, Geocaching is the thrill of the hunt and going to neat places (you might not go otherwise); it's NOT what you actually find in a cache." Quote Link to comment
+HappyFrog (& gang) Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 I have seen the holes the Indains made while grinding their acorns. I know that isn't much help, sorry. HappyFrog Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 Depending on the hardness of the stone Diamond drills or saws are the only things that will cut most stone,and the larger the hole the more$$$$ for the rock drill. I am a Lapidaryist,I have a 13" Dia. Diamond saw and several other smaller saws,and do lots of stone cutting,slabbing,lapping,polising and tumbling. My suggestion is to find some one with a rock saw and slab it into 1/8 or 1/4 slabs then leave the middle out and wala a hollow stone. It is quite alot of work to do this though,It will take you forever to wear a hollow spot like a matate'(Indian Grinding Stone),unless it is soft stone like soap stone or Minnesota pipe stone or (sp) Merchiam. here is a link to the equptment that I have. http://www.lortone.com WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS *GEOTRYAGAIN* TAKE PRIDE IN AMERICA http://www.doi.gov/news/front_current.html **1803-2003** "LOUSIANA PURCHASE" http://www.lapurchase.org "LEWIS AND CLARK EXPADITION" http://lewisclark.geog.missouri.edu/ Initial Points Page http://www.True-Meridiansubscribe@yahoogroups.com Quote Link to comment
+SamLowrey Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 Nah, just use a Dremel with a diamond bit - be done in 10 minutes. LOL! But seriously, I thought of the same thing. The last time I saw those fake rocks, they were pretty good but certainly not indistinguishable. Using a REAL rock would be so much better. Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 Sandstone is easier to work than granite. Pick a soft rock to work with! Quote Link to comment
georapper Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 i was going to use a hammer drill on some large sandstone boulders in our area. cutting off a half inch piece of bark from a tree and wrapping up a 35mm container or a small tupper ware container is another thing i was thinking of. Creativity Within The Bounds Of Conformity Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 done already,done that too,and What about those large woody mushrooms????I have one of those that no one can seem to find yet. If you do not use water or oil with your masonary bit it wiil get hot and crack or break on you. Pecking at a rock with a hammer and or chisel also fractures the rock and makes it less stable. I am trying to give friendly advise I have spent lots of hours trying to find the easy way.........there just aint when it comes to stone. Here is the idea. Make your own stones. get the portland cement in a small bag and some colorant(oxidant),mix to desired color,and or other stone and make a form using wire mesh and then form around it. The Zoos and Atriums do it all over the country.................look here: Man Made Stone WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS *GEOTRYAGAIN* TAKE PRIDE IN AMERICA http://www.doi.gov/news/front_current.html **1803-2003** "LOUSIANA PURCHASE" http://www.lapurchase.org "LEWIS AND CLARK EXPADITION" http://lewisclark.geog.missouri.edu/ Initial Points Page http://www.True-Meridiansubscribe@yahoogroups.com [This message was edited by GEO*Trailblazer 1 on August 30, 2003 at 09:07 AM.] [This message was edited by GEO*Trailblazer 1 on August 30, 2003 at 09:12 AM.] Quote Link to comment
+sept1c_tank Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 I've thought about using a geode (sp?). You know, one of those basketball-size rocks with crystals inside. Often times you can break off a small piece and find a sizable hollow surrounded by crystals. (Geodcache) These rocks are common in my part of the country. ==============="If it feels good...do it"================ **(the other 9 out of 10 voices in my head say: "Don't do it.")** . Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 With the rock saw you just cut them in 1/2. Hey you gave me an Idea. Geodstone,Geoidicoin WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS *GEOTRYAGAIN* TAKE PRIDE IN AMERICA http://www.doi.gov/news/front_current.html **1803-2003** "LOUSIANA PURCHASE" http://www.lapurchase.org "LEWIS AND CLARK EXPADITION" http://lewisclark.geog.missouri.edu/ Initial Points Page http://www.True-Meridiansubscribe@yahoogroups.com Quote Link to comment
+sept1c_tank Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 quote: Hey you gave me an Idea. Actually, I think it's Groundspeak's idea now! ==============="If it feels good...do it"================ **(the other 9 out of 10 voices in my head say: "Don't do it.")** . Quote Link to comment
+rldill Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 I'm working on 1 with a sand blaster, it is slow. Former EarthNOlink user!!!!!!!!! Take a chance or you'll never know. Let your spirits soar! Quote Link to comment
+nonnipoppy Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 I have had success drilling a softer sandstone rock using a masonry drill bit and a drill press. We used a cigar tube for the container. The results are the Holy Smokes cache.Sorry I don't know how to do the link thing.......poppy Quote Link to comment
+Hawk-eye Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 During CacheHunter 1's big 100th cache celebration hunt ... he was faced with a bored rock with a hidden clue. This was a little treat from Huggy and Triffid. It was done at Triffid's factory with some heavy duty equipment. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Co-founder of the "NC/VA GEO-HOG ASSOCIATION" ... when you absolutely have to find it first! Quote Link to comment
+sept1c_tank Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 quote: a bored rock How bored can a rock get? ==============="If it feels good...do it"================ **(the other 9 out of 10 voices in my head say: "Don't do it.")** . Quote Link to comment
+cachew nut Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 quote:Originally posted by GEO*Trailblazer 1: leave the middle out and wala a hollow stone. How do you wala a hollow stone? Quote Link to comment
+Corp Of Discovery Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 how about just making a rock with cement or concrete? You can get coloring to add to it to make it blend in with whatever area you will be hiding it in. Might take some experimenting, but will be easier in the long run. Hardest part might be the mold. Remember, wherever you go- there you are! Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 Wala ;wella 1st u getta a stone,then you make a 6 cuts,top,bottom,4 sides,at this point you cut out the center section of the rock. You can then place it back together and leave one part removable. It is a lot of work and you have to have the proper equiptment though.I have a Lapidary and have all the tools and GemStones from all over the world.I bought my Uncles 50 year collection,he was a Jewler and grew to elderly and asked me because of my intrests and I bought everything here several yeas ago. WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS *GEOTRYAGAIN* TAKE PRIDE IN AMERICA http://www.doi.gov/news/front_current.html **1803-2003** "LOUSIANA PURCHASE" http://www.lapurchase.org "LEWIS AND CLARK EXPADITION" http://lewisclark.geog.missouri.edu/ Initial Points Page http://www.True-Meridiansubscribe@yahoogroups.com Quote Link to comment
+Brian - Team A.I. Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 There was a cache I spent well over an hour stepping on, walking over, around, under, beside...that WAS a rock, with an Altoids tin attached using expanding foam resin that was matched quite well with the rock coloration itself. The foam was hidden well enough that there was absolutely nothing that could have revealed there was anything underneath. It was one of the most frustrating caches I ever hunted, but was also about 250 finds ago when I was still pretty new to the sport. Brian Team A.I. Quote Link to comment
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