FISUR Posted September 1, 2003 Share Posted September 1, 2003 A friend of mine is an antique bottle collector who finds many of the bottles near old foundations in the woods and forests. Since I occasionally come across such areas while geocaching and hiking, I've started marking waypoints for these locations so that I can pass the coordinates on to him. Any geocaching-bottle collectors out there? (The only bottle collecting I do is the CITO type.) FISUR Rhode Island Geocaching Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted September 1, 2003 Share Posted September 1, 2003 I know some people at work where stopped in my offce happy to find a bottle from a dump site near a work site. The company was a bottling company that shut down in the forties and operated locally. I like old bottles but don't do anything to seek them out. Lucky finds are all I go with. Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted September 1, 2003 Share Posted September 1, 2003 Yup..........Been doing that for years. Dad got me going when I was a kid and we have visited 100's of the Ghost Towns in the SW. We even have got things from the old Railroad station dumps and the Chinese dumps. I have a lot of very interesting things besides bottles. I have an 1800's Lipton Tea Baked Enameled sign that says Honesty is the best policy LIPTON TEA Found it near Deming New Mexico,at a Chinese Railroad camp. We dug them old dumps about 25-30 years ago. My neatest soda bottle is a BRONCO Cola Dads favorite came from the Original Railroad Station Willcox Arizona A Cobalt blue Cathedral ink bottle I also have one of the oldest glass fruit jars made,an applied lip,wood bottle mold. WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS *GEOTRYAGAIN* TAKE PRIDE IN AMERICA http://www.doi.gov/news/front_current.html **1803-2003** "LOUSIANA PURCHASE" http://www.lapurchase.org "LEWIS AND CLARK EXPADITION" http://lewisclark.geog.missouri.edu/ Arkansas Missouri Geocachrs Association http://www.ARK-MOGeocachersAssociatoin@msnusers.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ark-Mo-Geocachers Quote Link to comment
ScrubJ Posted September 1, 2003 Share Posted September 1, 2003 I collect bottles, but usually can't find my type (Codd) here in the states... Thanks for the offer. I don't know which is worse, the ants I'm standing in, or the sand spurs I walked through to get here... Quote Link to comment
+BeachBuddies Posted September 1, 2003 Share Posted September 1, 2003 Not sure if there are any collectibles around, but I just did the Weird Stone House cache, and it looked like a site you might want to check out. I would rough-guess it to be around a 100 years old, but I might be quite a bit off. Fun cache in any case. Quote Link to comment
+Ltljon Posted September 1, 2003 Share Posted September 1, 2003 I've been collecting them for a few years but by far am no authority on them. Just started picking up cork top bottles when I worked with Southern Railway. Also found some of their old china pieces & some silverware with their name inscribed on them. Pretty cool stuff but probably won't let me retire early. Did find some aluminum Coke cartons near a cache that were in an old trash-pile. Quote Link to comment
Bobthearch Posted September 1, 2003 Share Posted September 1, 2003 Just a note. Archaeological sites, Historic or Prehistoric, on public lands are generally protected and removing artifacts from public lands is illegal. Private property is a different matter; you only need permission from the land owner. Just a heads-up Bob-the-arch Quote Link to comment
Bobthearch Posted September 1, 2003 Share Posted September 1, 2003 Additionally, Geocachers are asked not to cache at or near archaeological sites. f.y.i., the age criteria for being an "archaeological site" is 50 years old. Are some old cans and bottles dropped by a desert coyboy in the 1930s an arch site? - you bet it is! An old house foundation in the Arkansas forest? Yep, even that. I'm not trying to be accusatory toward bottle collectors in particular. I'm just taking this opportunity to share info with a group of folks that spend amounts of time on public lands. Nothing but good wishes, Bob Quote Link to comment
FISUR Posted September 2, 2003 Author Share Posted September 2, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Bobthearch:Just a note. Archaeological sites, Historic or Prehistoric, on public lands are generally protected and removing artifacts from public lands is illegal. Private property is a different matter; you only need permission from the land owner. Just a heads-up Bob-the-arch Good point Bob. I should have mentioned that the bottle collector I know seeks permission before going onto property to collect the bottles. FISUR Rhode Island Geocaching Quote Link to comment
+brdad Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 Search far and wide for old maps of your area. There are many online. With a little research and some luck, you will find locations of old mills and foundations of old farms and other buildings. Then convert coords from them (obviously in an older datum). I did this pre-caching just for the fun of it, and there was often old bottles in those areas. Obviously, make sure you have permission as previously mentioned. Warning: Objects in GPS may be closer than they appear! Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Bobthearch:Just a note. Archaeological sites, Historic or Prehistoric, on public lands are generally protected and removing artifacts from public lands is illegal. Private property is a different matter; you only need permission from the land owner. Just a heads-up Bob-the-arch There are two things I love about this. 1) They can't tell you where archiological sites are at so you might know. 2) Here we have the oregon trail. All the trash they dumped out the back of the wagons is now considered artifacts and and protected as you have said. My best finds (and I regret never going back after hours) is at a warehouse I worked at. Men in the early 1900's worked there drank beer and tossed the empties under the floor planks where they sat protected from the elements until I came along in the 80's to work there and find them. But since I was working I never did anyting but leave them and being a kid never did make it back girls being more interesting and all at the time. The warehouse is still there. (In Fairbanks Alaska) I'll tell anyone who wants to know but you have to send me some of the cans and bottles! Quote Link to comment
+joefrog Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 My best find was while diving in 40' of water on a "blackwater"dive -- meaning you could only see about 6" in front of your face. It's a civil war ginger beer bottle, and looks off-the-shelf new. Here's a pic of a similar one: Joel (joefrog) "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for ye are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!" [This message was edited by joefrog on September 03, 2003 at 02:22 PM.] Quote Link to comment
+Corp Of Discovery Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 Just a question. How old is it befor it's worth hanging onto? I have some Pepsi and a couple of other brands of glass pop bottles. They are not that old yet, but it's been like 15-20 years since they made them. Remember, wherever you go- there you are! Quote Link to comment
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