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A friend of mine is an antique bottle collector who finds many of the bottles near old foundations in the woods and forests. Since I occasionally come across such areas while geocaching and hiking, I've started marking waypoints for these locations so that I can pass the coordinates on to him.

 

Any geocaching-bottle collectors out there? (The only bottle collecting I do is the CITO type.)

 

FISUR

 

Rhode Island Geocaching

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Yup..........Been doing that for years.

Dad got me going when I was a kid and we have visited 100's of the Ghost Towns in the SW.

We even have got things from the old Railroad station dumps and the Chinese dumps.

I have a lot of very interesting things besides bottles.

I have an 1800's Lipton Tea Baked Enameled sign that says

 

Honesty is the

best policy

 

LIPTON TEA

Found it near Deming New Mexico,at a Chinese Railroad camp.

We dug them old dumps about 25-30 years ago.

My neatest soda bottle is a

BRONCO Cola

 

Dads favorite came from the Original Railroad Station Willcox Arizona

A Cobalt blue Cathedral ink bottle

 

I also have one of the oldest glass fruit jars made,an applied lip,wood bottle mold.

 

WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS *GEOTRYAGAIN*

 

TAKE PRIDE IN AMERICA

 

http://www.doi.gov/news/front_current.html

 

**1803-2003** "LOUSIANA PURCHASE"

http://www.lapurchase.org

 

"LEWIS AND CLARK EXPADITION"

http://lewisclark.geog.missouri.edu/

Arkansas Missouri Geocachrs Association

http://www.ARK-MOGeocachersAssociatoin@msnusers.com

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ark-Mo-Geocachers

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I've been collecting them for a few years but by far am no authority on them. Just started picking up cork top bottles when I worked with Southern Railway. Also found some of their old china pieces & some silverware with their name inscribed on them. Pretty cool stuff but probably won't let me retire early.

Did find some aluminum Coke cartons near a cache that were in an old trash-pile.

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Additionally, Geocachers are asked not to cache at or near archaeological sites.

 

f.y.i., the age criteria for being an "archaeological site" is 50 years old. Are some old cans and bottles dropped by a desert coyboy in the 1930s an arch site? - you bet it is! An old house foundation in the Arkansas forest? Yep, even that.

 

I'm not trying to be accusatory toward bottle collectors in particular. I'm just taking this opportunity to share info with a group of folks that spend amounts of time on public lands.

 

Nothing but good wishes,

Bob

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quote:
Originally posted by Bobthearch:

Just a note. Archaeological sites, Historic or Prehistoric, on public lands are generally protected and removing artifacts from public lands is illegal.

 

Private property is a different matter; you only need permission from the land owner.

 

Just a heads-up

 

Bob-the-arch


 

Good point Bob. I should have mentioned that the bottle collector I know seeks permission before going onto property to collect the bottles.

 

FISUR

 

Rhode Island Geocaching

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Search far and wide for old maps of your area. There are many online. With a little research and some luck, you will find locations of old mills and foundations of old farms and other buildings. Then convert coords from them (obviously in an older datum). I did this pre-caching just for the fun of it, and there was often old bottles in those areas. Obviously, make sure you have permission as previously mentioned.

 

Warning: Objects in GPS may be closer than they appear!

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quote:
Originally posted by Bobthearch:

Just a note. Archaeological sites, Historic or Prehistoric, on public lands are generally protected and removing artifacts from public lands is illegal.

 

Private property is a different matter; you only need permission from the land owner.

 

Just a heads-up

 

Bob-the-arch


 

There are two things I love about this.

 

1) They can't tell you where archiological sites are at so you might know.

2) Here we have the oregon trail. All the trash they dumped out the back of the wagons is now considered artifacts and and protected as you have said.

 

My best finds (and I regret never going back after hours) is at a warehouse I worked at. Men in the early 1900's worked there drank beer and tossed the empties under the floor planks where they sat protected from the elements until I came along in the 80's to work there and find them. But since I was working I never did anyting but leave them and being a kid never did make it back girls being more interesting and all at the time.

 

The warehouse is still there. (In Fairbanks Alaska) I'll tell anyone who wants to know but you have to send me some of the cans and bottles!

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My best find was while diving in 40' of water on a "blackwater"dive -- meaning you could only see about 6" in front of your face. It's a civil war ginger beer bottle, and looks off-the-shelf new.

 

Here's a pic of a similar one:

beerbottle.jpg

 

Joel (joefrog)

 

"Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for ye are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!"

 

[This message was edited by joefrog on September 03, 2003 at 02:22 PM.]

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