irvingdog Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 I think the title of the thread says it all. I've been trying to keep my eyes open for spots that would fit this profile. Maybe even an icon. I know, I know, you can't pander to everyone and meet every cause, but something tells me there are people with reduced mobility raring to go out and find a cache or two. Quote Link to comment
+sbukosky Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 I've mentioned this a few time because my wife has had both knees replaced and can't get around that well. What I have done is once I've found a cache that has acceptable access, I'll come back with her and let her hunt it out. I've placed some caches where a person in a wheelchair can poke around some but it's hard to hide a cache that they can get to that the general population won't find. Still, it is a good challenge. Around here we have some very talented camouflage artists. Given a good cheat, I'm sure people out there could make one that is reachable by many in a wheelchair. Steve Bukosky N9BGH Waukesha Wisconsin Quote Link to comment
+Web-ling Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 It would be great if the cache placer had the option of placing a handicapped icon on the cache page which would show up in the cache listings like a TB icon. Quote Link to comment
irvingdog Posted July 16, 2002 Author Share Posted July 16, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Web-ling:It would be great if the cache placer had the option of placing a handicapped icon on the cache page which would show up in the cache listings like a TB icon. Exactly! Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted July 17, 2002 Share Posted July 17, 2002 You could alway have a wheelchair symbol (The International Symbol of Accesability). That symbol could be placed similiar to the Travel bug symbol. Next to a cache that is assessable. of course there are varying degrees of assesability and htat would have to be sorted out somehow. Maybe a symbol wiht a green halo is one you could roll up to in a hard wheeled chair. A symbol wiht a red ring around it needs an 'off road chair? This is no easy thing to sort out. Look at how the ratings vary for a regular cache. Iv'e seen 1's that were harder than 4's. Quote Link to comment
+Doombot! Posted July 17, 2002 Share Posted July 17, 2002 We have a few "Urban caches" in the area that require no walking, but some bending/climbing. The problem in that if someone in a hov-a-round can get to the cache, it would be plundered quickly. Quote Link to comment
+Acc-Risk and Snarflax Posted July 17, 2002 Share Posted July 17, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Web-ling:It would be great if the cache placer had the option of placing a handicapped icon on the cache page which would show up in the cache listings like a TB icon. I'd like to see lots of options... Handicap accessible Mountain bike OK Pets OK etc... Contents Under Pressure... Quote Link to comment
evilrooster Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 I'd like to see public transport information included (at least on urban caches). Not all cachers drive. evilrooster -the email of the species is deadlier than the mail- Quote Link to comment
evilrooster Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 I'd like to see public transport information included (at least on urban caches). Not all cachers drive. evilrooster -the email of the species is deadlier than the mail- Quote Link to comment
Eric O'Connor Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 quote:Originally posted by evilrooster:I'd like to see public transport information included (at least on urban caches). Not all cachers drive. People come from different directions at different times though. How would this work? Quote Link to comment
Eric O'Connor Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 quote:Originally posted by evilrooster:I'd like to see public transport information included (at least on urban caches). Not all cachers drive. People come from different directions at different times though. How would this work? Quote Link to comment
Team Dragon Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 When I'm a tourist and hunting in places that have good public transport, I usually provide bus or MRT info in my logs. The problem is that hiders generally live in the area, can usually afford cars and never consider how to get to their cache by bus. Example cities where there are a large number of tourists and good mass transit systems where transit information would be useful: New York London Singapore Hong Kong Auckland Quote Link to comment
+Mr. Snazz Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 If I recall correctly, special searchable flags for caches are in the works (incl. handicap-accessible). Quote Link to comment
dboggny Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 i put a note on my caches as to what the nearest subway line is, also i am begining to place some urban caches that may be accesible to those in wheelchairs. they are usually micro caches however. quote:Originally posted by evilrooster:I'd like to see public transport information included (at least on urban caches). Not all cachers drive. _evilrooster_ -the email of the species is deadlier than the mail- SR and dboggny. Oh man, my mother in law is here Quote Link to comment
dboggny Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 i put a note on my caches as to what the nearest subway line is, also i am begining to place some urban caches that may be accesible to those in wheelchairs. they are usually micro caches however. quote:Originally posted by evilrooster:I'd like to see public transport information included (at least on urban caches). Not all cachers drive. _evilrooster_ -the email of the species is deadlier than the mail- SR and dboggny. Oh man, my mother in law is here Quote Link to comment
evilrooster Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 What information would be useful depends on the city & the public transport in it. If there's a distinct city centre (as in Edinburgh), I assume my cachers are going to be able to find it, then give bus information from there (e.g., buses going to Leith from the city centre will get you in range). If there's a more diffuse transit network, knowing which bus or subway lines are nearest is best. It is assumed that cachers can get onto the system...the trick is getting them going in the right direction . I pitch my information at tourists - locals can find their own way . evilrooster -the email of the species is deadlier than the mail- Quote Link to comment
evilrooster Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 What information would be useful depends on the city & the public transport in it. If there's a distinct city centre (as in Edinburgh), I assume my cachers are going to be able to find it, then give bus information from there (e.g., buses going to Leith from the city centre will get you in range). If there's a more diffuse transit network, knowing which bus or subway lines are nearest is best. It is assumed that cachers can get onto the system...the trick is getting them going in the right direction . I pitch my information at tourists - locals can find their own way . evilrooster -the email of the species is deadlier than the mail- Quote Link to comment
cap kal Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 I actually put out a wheelchair friendly cache located at the barrier free fishing trails. www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=19808 They put an icon in the page that I didn't put there of a wheelchair but the only way to tell from the listing that it is wheelchair friendly is the name. If people put something in the name you can then use the keyword feature to look for them. Quote Link to comment
+JoGPS Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 Its not hard to find these kind of places, I belive that they are needed not just the log saying wheelchair assesable except the last three feet, what are they going to do? I have ten wheelchair assesable Vir caches inside the Nashville Zoo at Grassmere and rotate them every three months and I think they are starting to take off. Quote Link to comment
+Frolickin Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 There was a cache around here that was advertised as a handicap-accessible cache. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=22324 For some reason it is archived. I wrote the cache owner about it, but never heard back as to why. Fro. ________________________________________ Geocaching . . . hiking with a purpose Quote Link to comment
+Mopar Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Cap Kal:I actually put out a wheelchair friendly cache located at the barrier free fishing trails. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=19808 They put an icon in the page that I didn't put there of a wheelchair but the only way to tell from the listing that it is wheelchair friendly is the name. If people put something in the name you can then use the keyword feature to look for them. How do I get this icon added to my cache page? I have a cache that was the product of the 1st of many discussions on these type of caches. It was placed expressly to be handicapable. The cache isA Cache For A Queen and was named for the person who was the reason for the initial discussion Illegitimus non carborundum! Quote Link to comment
cap kal Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 I wish I could help you with that one but like I said I didn't put the wheelchair there. I just submitted the cache and when it was approved it came out with a wheelchair on it. Pretty cool I thought but I don't know who put it there. Quote Link to comment
+regoarrarr Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 I've hidden a couple of accessible caches. I have a series of altoids tins in parking garages Joe "Garage"iola 3 Joe "Garage"iola 3 Quote Link to comment
+mrcpu Posted July 20, 2002 Share Posted July 20, 2002 I like the idea not because I'm in a wheelchair, but because I have kids and a stroller (Soon to be TWO strollers!!!!). For me there are two types of WheelChair/Stroller caches. 1. Completely accessable for the WC/S bound person. They can roll right up to it and pick it up by themselves. 2. Assisted Accessablility. The wc/s bound person can get within <50 feet of the cache with a friend who covers the last few feet or bends down/climbs up etc. This is an ongoing topic and I hope Jeremy starts work on a Facilities Matrix for all kinds of things like this. Rob Mobile Cache Command Quote Link to comment
HamsterMom & Hamsters of War Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 Maybe Jeremy could add a feature - a box to check on the submittal form(?) that says something like, check this box if you would like a wheelchair/stroller icon? and maybe another box to check wether it is 100% or partially accessable. In the meantime maybe you can ask to have it inserted by email when you submit it? What's for dinner? How about Hamster Helper?!!! Quote Link to comment
+Mopar Posted July 28, 2002 Share Posted July 28, 2002 OK, I was updating one of my cache pages, and I decided to revisit this topic, since the question of where the wheelchair cache icons came from was never answered. I looked at the 2 caches mentioned with the icon in them, and I noticed that both times the icon image itself is hosted off geocaching.com on what it looks like is a subdir of a cacher's homepage. Is it possible that this is just something one of the cache approver's is doing on his own? If so, it's a great thing, but I would really love to see it added as a check box when creating the cache Illegitimus non carborundum! Quote Link to comment
+Mopar Posted July 28, 2002 Share Posted July 28, 2002 In case anyone wants, I decided to modify the icon a bit. Feel free to use it for your caches. Illegitimus non carborundum! Quote Link to comment
evilrooster Posted July 28, 2002 Share Posted July 28, 2002 Nice one. How about two different icons? That one for a 100% accessible cache, and something like "Handicap reachable" for ones where a disabled cacher can get to the location but will need assistance reaching the cache itself? I don't have a good paint program on this machine or I'd make one... evilrooster -the email of the species is deadlier than the mail- Quote Link to comment
+MartyFouts Posted July 28, 2002 Share Posted July 28, 2002 All of my locationless caches and three of my five non-locationless caches are fully handicap accessible. The fourth non-locationless may or may not be (it's too high above ground for wheel chair access but is otherwise accessible.) It is fairly straight-forward to do accessible urban caches, especially micro-caches and I try to take that into account while I'm scouting around for locations for urban caches. Quote Link to comment
+nscaler Posted July 28, 2002 Share Posted July 28, 2002 Added your WC logo to three of my caches. Now if they could get it to show up in the general log listings, that should do it. And yes, make it part of the log making process. Just "click here if handicap accessible" would make the rest automatic. Hey Jeremy? nscaler "Anyone not here, raise your hand!". Quote Link to comment
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