jackbear Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 Did anyone else see this mornings news bit on a guy who placed a transmitter he purchased for $1,200 in a car of a woman he was stalking and followed her around with software on his laptop. Wacko's like this threaten public awareness of users of GPSr's. Hope public is wise enough to know the difference between transmitters and receivers. Grrrrrrrrr... jackbear Quote Link to comment
+Mr. Snazz Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 All GPSr transmit position data. This is why batteries run down so quickly (transmit uses more power than receive), and also why if you put two of them together you loose accuracy (the transmissions from each unit create interferance, a single unit can filter out its own interferance, but not the stuff from anouther unit, since it doesn't know the exact waveform to subtract). The signal was requested by the FBI, and mandated by congress when the DOD released the specs for receiving GPS signals. The transmission sends location and serial number information to the nearest monitoring station. Monitoring stations exist around the country (not everywhere). The FBI's intended use for the signal was to track survivalists and would-be revolutionaries moving around in forests and publicly-owned lands. They figured that these folks would be using GPSr as soon as consumer models were available, since for one, they tend to be rather para-military, and two, GPSr is very useful (as we all well know) to determine location. The signal allows them to monitor and detect training camps through data analysis, and also movements. Who knows what they are using it for now... Quote Link to comment
+SilverRubicon Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 I don't recall anything mentioning when I purchased my GPSr that it would be transmitting my position and serial number. But if that is truly the case and it is the reason my batteries don't last very long then I want to disable it. I'm sure there must be a way and if someone out there knows how to I would sure like to know. Those lithium batteries aren't cheap you know. SilverRubicon Quote Link to comment
+headmj Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 Mr. Snazz, where did you hear that GPSr also transmits? If they did they would need FCC registration. I think the interference you pick up when you get to close to another GPS is generated by the CPU and the Osc in the receiver section. The whole scenario sounds a little too black helicopter to be true. Quote Link to comment
+parkrrrr Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 If you've only just found out about this facet of your GPS receiver and you need to get rid of it untraceably, I'd be happy to take care of it for you for a small fee. Take the batteries out (this step is very important!) and email me for the address you should send them to and the name to make the check out to. Quote Link to comment
+ScottJ Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 C'mon, folks, don't you recognize (well-crafted) BS when you see it? If not ... well, I guess you'd better wrap that aluminum foil around your head again. -- Scott Johnson (ScottJ) Quote Link to comment
solohiker Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 Mr. Snazz has been in the desert too long. Quote Link to comment
+Prime Suspect Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 Old news. Quote Link to comment
Dru Morgan Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 Fuz is scamming you. There is a site that has the plans for a device to disable the transmission from your GPSr with parts you can get from a Radio Shack. I think a friend of my cousin built one and it worked fine. Also, they have the plans to build a DVD rewinder. I built that one myself and I know it works. Oh, and if some smart aleck tries to tell you that the 'r' in GPSr stands for 'receiver', that is not true anymore. It stands for 'remit'. Ever notice that anyone that caches less than you do is a moron, while anyone that caches more than you do is a maniac? -Dru Morgan Quote Link to comment
+brdad Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 There's an even easier way if you need a quick fix. I just wrap aluminum foil around the antenna, shiny side out (that way it can still receive signals, just not transmit them). Try to make it as smooth as possible, tape it on if needed. If carrots are so good for the eyes, how come I see so many dead rabbits on the highway? Quote Link to comment
+LaPaglia Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 quote:Originally posted by brdad:There's an even easier way if you need a quick fix. I just wrap aluminum foil around the antenna, shiny side out (that way it can still receive signals, just not transmit them). Try to make it as smooth as possible, tape it on if needed. http://www.bytethebullet.com/geocaching/images/gps_shield.jpg _If carrots are so good for the eyes, how come I see so many dead rabbits on the highway?_ Normal thickness or Heavy Duty? Lapaglia Muga Muchu (forget yourself, focus) Quote Link to comment
+parkrrrr Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Lapaglia:Normal thickness or Heavy Duty? Exactly. Quote Link to comment
Micqn Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 Why would someone want to follow you? Did you do something that makes you so paranoid? AND If your GPSr is transmitting data then I wouldn't be pretending it is a cell phone when somebody sees you stumbling around in poisen ivy. By the way if you believe that your GPS is sending such special data and you want to make it so that it doesn't, you better go purchase a doflatchit wratchit and a hyfernator-doofenator. Happy. Hunting. Quote Link to comment
+Skully & Mulder et al. Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 quote:By the way if you believe that your GPS is sending such special data and you want to make it so that it doesn't, you better go purchase a doflatchit wratchit and a hyfernator-doofenator. For less then $20. Quote Link to comment
+sledgehampster Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 Better yet, just get a double jointed dooflitchie and reverse wire it using 3 muffler bearings out of a 73 Pacer. That will oscillate the signal enough to make them think you are really them! Got it? Only availabe at Auto Zone and Circuity City. Quote Link to comment
rag-a-muffin Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 Newsweek reported about a month ago that not ALL GPSr's transmit position data. In fact, they say that it is only the left-handed units which transmit position. Even though I'm a lefty, I bought a right-handed unit for this very reason. If any of you out there have left-handed units, I know that Garmin and Magellan are currently offering trade-ins for right-handed units in light of this new information. Quote Link to comment
Micqn Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 I went to the JC Whitney website and bought a set high speed batteries and a high performance case for my GPS. My magellan will be so accurate now! WOOHOOO! Happy. Hunting. Quote Link to comment
+Quest Master Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 Geocaching must be making it really tough for the FBI and its data analysis and monitoring program. I wonder if they have come up with a way to filter out the movements of geocachers wandering around aimlessly looking for boxes of toys. Johnny Quote Link to comment
+Brian - Team A.I. Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 What I do to keep 'Big Brother' off my back is I simply overclock the processor. The electricity for the boost in power comes from a simple nuclear generating device made from a gum wrapper and kite string. By boosting the capability of the CPU inside my eTrex Vista, I am able to manipulate the signals emitted by the core itself to transmit false triangulation data to the Feds so that they end up searching for my device somewhere in Nagasaki, Japan. If my homemade nuclear reactor fails, I plan on stealing the plutonium from Libyan terrorists who want me to build them a bomb (little do they know I'm going to supply them with an empty shell filled with used pinball machine parts). Combined with my flux capacitor, I'll be unstoppable in my quest to take over the world...Um, wait. That's part of a different conspira...I mean thread. Brian Team A.I. Quote Link to comment
+Breaktrack Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 Ah, another day at the forums..... and I come home for this???? I could stay at work and hear less BS, LOL. (secret service smiley faces) "Trade up, trade even, or don't trade!!!" My philosophy of life. Quote Link to comment
Where's_North Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 See what most of you don't know is the actual signal that you all are scrambling is really a ruse. Those of you that think you've out-foxed the black 'copter crowd have really been duped. That's what they expected you to do. The truth is that your "L.E.D." backlit screen is really a hyplo-gamma ray emitter. Several, if not all of the GPS satelittes have special recievers that can see these plain as day even through heavy tree cover. Of coarse they can track your location and I.D. the serial number (point of purchase/credit card records etc.) easily enough, but if you touch the screen just once it will broadcast an image of your fingerprint as well. I covered mine with a transparent screen of polymolybendium. The alloy is difficult to manufacture, but a search should reveal a number of home manufacturing methods. The trick is to make the filiments of the screen small enough so that you can still see your display well enough. I use .04 micron filiments myslef, spaced 1 micron apart. It scrambles and distorts the waveform so it dissapates long before it leaves the atmosphere so the satelittes can't possibly track you. However, specially equipped "Black Copters" probably can still see a distorted hyplo-gamma signal from close proximity. Though no long term testing had been done on hyplo-gamma rays, initial testing from Nevada indicates that an increase in aggresive behavior may be expected. Additionaly some subjects were afflicted with a odd jaundiced skin colouring though none of the normal symptoms were apparent. Preliminary hypothises from a noted expert in the field suggest that the pigment combinations that make up the colour purple offer some protection from these effects. [This message was edited by Where's_North on May 06, 2003 at 08:27 PM.] Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 quote: Of coarse they can track your location and I.D. That's really rough! "It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues" -Abraham Lincoln Quote Link to comment
+pdxmarathonman Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 Thanks for bumping this thread. I missed it the first time. I have noticed an increased helicopter presence in the area. I hadn't thought too much about it until now. Whew! I guess I'll have to stop geocaching for awhile until things return back to normal. Quote Link to comment
Captain Chaoss Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 The most effective way to counter-act your movements being traced is to hold your gps upside down and walk backwards. This fools the feds into going where you were. The only problem is of course, helicopters are capable of reverse flight maneuvers. In this case, the "Gorgon maneuver" is also advisable. View your gps only in a small handheld mirror. Two roads diverged in the woods and I, I took the one less traveled, and that is how I found the cache. Quote Link to comment
+smithdw Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 I guess I'll have to encase my GPSr in the transparent aluminum that I found under the bridge yesterday. That should block off the transmissions. Oh, yea, the bridge had a big sign on it that it was for sale. Anyone want the phone number? It was pretty cheap! Quote Link to comment
+TEAM 360 Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 Funny no one in here mentioned the fact that all GPS screens are in fact high-tech flat lens cameras which broadcast real-time images of you and everything you do and say right to Cheyenne Mountain. The Feds are using face recognition technology, and have already identified each and everyone of us, except for that guy dressed up in the "Batman" costume.... Quote Link to comment
+15Tango Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 Sounds like this is along the same lines as having to buy Polaroid cameras, because everytime you take a roll of pics in to get developed, the photo place sends a copy to the FBI. And with their data mining technology, digital cameras aren't safe, as well. For a couple hundred dollars, I can tell you how to disable the transmitter in Polaroid cameras........ "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--Calvin Quote Link to comment
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