+BluEyz and Bugsy Posted April 27, 2003 Posted April 27, 2003 We have some swiss army knife type knives with other attachments like a corkscrew, scissors, etc., that we think people would like find in caches. What do people think about leaving this type of knife in a cache? Quote
+tirediron Posted April 27, 2003 Posted April 27, 2003 Personally, I don't have a problem with it, but there have been several threads on this topic recently and the general concensus is that they are Verbotten. Check out this thread Quote
+BluEyz and Bugsy Posted April 27, 2003 Author Posted April 27, 2003 We have checked out the thread that tirediron suggested. There is so much controversy that we have decided not to leave any knives. People would have liked them, however! Quote
+Team GPSaxophone Posted April 27, 2003 Posted April 27, 2003 You could always leave a gift certificate for a local cutlery shop Quote
Team BooneDog Posted April 27, 2003 Posted April 27, 2003 you could always send me a few of them if your trying to get rid of them Never met a swiss army knife I didn't like When you see the light at the end of the tunnel, make sure it's not a train coming at you Quote
Stitchmonster Posted April 27, 2003 Posted April 27, 2003 We found a cache last week that had two small new "Swiss Army" type knives in it, along with a few other goodies. My wife couldn't decide which one she wanted more! I was pleasantly surprised. I know that the general consensus seems to be "no", but I for one (and especially my wife) think they are great finds. Obviously, the style matters (nothing large or blatant), but small Swiss Army type knives are great. Quote
+briansnat Posted April 27, 2003 Posted April 27, 2003 According to TPTB, knives in caches aren't allowed. Ya never know, a prison road crew could find the cache and use the knife to attack their guard . I will continue to leave Swiss Army "multi-tools" in caches however. "It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues" -Abraham Lincoln [This message was edited by BrianSnat on April 28, 2003 at 04:15 AM.] Quote
+travisl Posted April 27, 2003 Posted April 27, 2003 I just picked up 10 swiss army style <strikethru>knives</strikethru> tools from the dollar store for $5. Whatever will I do with them? Wait... here's some context. Let's read a page from The Little Engine That Could quote:And there were cars full of toy engines, airplanes, tops, jackknives, picture puzzles, and every kind of thing boys or girls could want. (emphasis added) I'd better make sure I don't mention them in my cache logs, though. WWJD? JW RTFM. Quote
+Highpointer Posted April 27, 2003 Posted April 27, 2003 Swiss Army-style knives are good items to put in caches in rural areas or in the backcountry. They are very versatile tools that have many uses, and are a welcome find if you need one. Quote
+Highpointer Posted April 27, 2003 Posted April 27, 2003 quote:Originally posted by travisl:I just picked up 10 swiss army style <strikethru>knives</strikethru> tools from the dollar store for $5. Whatever will I do with them? Wait... here's some context. Let's read a page from _The Little Engine That Could_ quote:And there were cars full of toy engines, airplanes, tops, _jackknives_, picture puzzles, and every kind of thing boys or girls could want. (emphasis added) I'd better make sure I don't mention them in my cache logs, though. _WWJD? JW RTFM._ I used a pocket knife for whittling when I was a Cub Scout, and I was only 8 years old. Ken Akerman (a.k.a. Highpointer) Quote
+DeerChaser & Company Posted April 28, 2003 Posted April 28, 2003 Took so N so Left multi pocket tool Rino 110 MeriGreen 128 Quote
Northern-Lights Posted April 28, 2003 Posted April 28, 2003 They are no longer called Swiss Army Knifes.....they are now "multi-tools". Whats the difference?.....most multi-tools have a small blade anyway....and up here in the north, there aren't any prison road crews anyway. But, the rules are the rules... Earth First!!! We'll cache the other planets later!! Quote
+briansnat Posted April 28, 2003 Posted April 28, 2003 quote:And there were cars full of toy engines, airplanes, tops, jackknives, picture puzzles, and every kind of thing boys or girls could want. Kids with jackknives? How horrible! No wonder there is so much violence in our society. This book only encourages it. It must be banned! "It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues" -Abraham Lincoln Quote
+Divine Posted April 28, 2003 Posted April 28, 2003 quote:Originally posted by BrianSnat:Kids with jackknives? How horrible! No wonder there is so much violence in our society. This book only encourages it. It must be banned! You should also consider hanging the Ten Commandments on the classroom walls. - From the shallow end of the gene pool. - Quote
+RichardMoore Posted April 28, 2003 Posted April 28, 2003 quote:Originally posted by travisl:I just picked up 10 swiss army style <strikethru>knives</strikethru> tools from the dollar store for $5. Whatever will I do with them? Okay, someone has to say it. Multi-tools from the dollar store? McToys are made better than that, they have less chance of breaking in use. With all of the discussion about knives/no knives in caches, nobody has yet brought up the question of quality. I have, to my shame, purchased a couple of these tools in the past. They are heavy, the tools bend easily, and the blades don't hold an edge. I carry an original Leatherman (the multi-tool, not the cacher who goes by that name). But I can't see anyone using these as trade goods on a regular basis. RichardMoore www.geocities.com/richardsrunaway Quote
+Hoomdorm Posted April 28, 2003 Posted April 28, 2003 Do they not make the official cub scout knife anymore? When I was little my brother had one as well as all of his cub scout buddies. As far as the dollar store multi tools, I'd MUCH rather have one of those than a McToy. Even if they only lasted thru one use it would be worth something. I'm always looking for a spare something or other to use in a pinch. I think they're perfectly fine trade items. -------------------------------- Magellan Meridian GPS Handspring Visor Deluxe L.O.S.T. - http://www.kjjeep.com Quote
+Renegade Knight Posted April 28, 2003 Posted April 28, 2003 Hmmm I recall the concencus being that Pocket Knives are ok but that the website itself decided that they are not ok. ===================== Wherever you go there you are. Quote
+TeamVE Posted April 28, 2003 Posted April 28, 2003 Well, here's my thought.... I wanted to stock a new cache I was putting out with useful things. I had acquired a number of "pocket multi tools" (some pliers style, some 'traditional'). Since they were all in their original packaging, which is MORE than child proof (where's a chainsaw when you need one [] ), I wasn't to concerned about putting them in there. The only drawback was that they took up quite a bit of space in the ammo box. Quote
+The Commissar! Posted April 28, 2003 Posted April 28, 2003 Yes they still offer Official Cub/Boy Scout knives for sale in the catalog. The Cubs can only use knives once they are properly trained and have earned the Tote-N-Chip. Not sure if there is an age requirement or not... I too would rather see a cheap multi tool in a cache than a McWhatever toy. I carry a Schrade "TOOL" and "Chip". Between the two I can McGuiver(sp?) almost anything. So my vote is put the multi-tools and small knives in there...you do not have to take one if you don't want to. Quote
Captain Chaoss Posted April 28, 2003 Posted April 28, 2003 In our rural area, apocket knife is as common as a dollar bill. I have never thought twice about seeing or leaving a fold-up pocket knife in a cache. If a child is too young to get a knife on their own or at school, they aren't out caching alone either. if people want to get upset about something, scream about the idiot leaving cigarrettes in the caches. Two roads diverged in the woods and I, I took the one less traveled, and that is how I found the cache. Quote
+wimseyguy Posted April 28, 2003 Posted April 28, 2003 BrianSnat: quote: Kids with jackknives? How horrible! No wonder there is so much violence in our society. This book only encourages it. It must be banned! Yes, Yes! Banish it to the lad of the ammo boxes! These changes in latitudes, changes in attitudes; Nothing remains quite the same. Through all of the islands and all of the highlands, If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane Quote
+TEAM 360 Posted April 28, 2003 Posted April 28, 2003 Come on. We all know children don't play with knives anymore. Nowadays they pack more firepower than your local police department. Quote
Bluezcluez Posted April 28, 2003 Posted April 28, 2003 quote:You should also consider hanging the Ten Commandments on the classroom walls. A VERY good idea! We are not Alone.... Quote
+Breaktrack Posted April 28, 2003 Posted April 28, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Divine: quote:Originally posted by BrianSnat:Kids with jackknives? How horrible! No wonder there is so much violence in our society. This book only encourages it. It must be banned! You should also consider hanging the Ten Commandments on the classroom walls. - From the shallow end of the gene pool. - Ya know, a while back Divine and I had a great discussion over the level of paranoia in our country as opposed to others. I'm afraid it is becoming more and more evident that his side of the argument may be closer to the truth.....sigh. After reading this thread and the others about pocket knives, etc, not having a place in caches, and the reasons given by those that feel that way, Divine, you have my apologies, we are more paranoid about more and more issues that have less and less relevance all the time. You win, I submit.... I truly do live in a more paranoid society, much to my dissapointment and chagrin. I am surprised some of these people even manage to leave their houses to do anything, much less Geocache...sheesh. Divine, where did you say you live again??? LOL. "Trade up, trade even, or don't trade!!!" My philosophy of life. Quote
+Crusso Posted April 28, 2003 Posted April 28, 2003 It seems to me that all u have to do is place the "item" in the cache, call it a "multi-tool" & not a "knife" & everyone is happy! Wherever you go, there you are! Quote
+Treasure Hunters Inc. Posted April 28, 2003 Posted April 28, 2003 I would have to say that I also think you have to be VERY paranoid to think that a knockoff or actual smallest of all swiss army knives is some kind of danger when placed in the "wrong" hands. Sure you could cut yourself, maybe even need a stitch or two, possibly even poke a eye out (if you're really from the shallow end of the gene pool). But get this now. Our local county parks dept. has banned geocaching in all county parks, and one of the reasons they cited was that they found and confiscated a cache which stated in the log book that one of the ORIGINAL items in the cache was a mini pocket knife. It wasn't even in the cache when they found it. They referred to it as a WEAPON. With people of this ilk in charge of setting policies which are based on gross exageration, parannoia, and other falsehoods, I guess TPTB may be wiser than some may think for putting such innocent items on the list of no-nos $1000 Bill geocaching is living in a 30 foot circle Quote
The Foster Clan Posted April 28, 2003 Posted April 28, 2003 My wife and I picked up a hand full of small knives at the K-Mart going out of business in York, PA while we were down there for a train show earlier this month. After the huge closing/close-out pricing, these things were about the same cost as the dollar store items but they are really nice little knives. Basically, they would be a key chain knife... A small blade, nail file, tweezers, tooth pick and scissors. Nobody has complained yet and they seem to go fast. Jon. Come visit us on the web!! The JJ&C Railroad Quote
+Treasure Hunters Inc. Posted April 28, 2003 Posted April 28, 2003 Basically, they would be a key chain knife... A small blade, nail file, tweezers, tooth pick and scissors. Nobody has complained yet and they seem to go fast. That is EXACTLY what was called a WEAPON by the Licking Parks District of Licking County Ohio $1000 Bill geocaching is living in a 30 foot circle Quote
+travisl Posted April 28, 2003 Posted April 28, 2003 To answer the Cub Scout question above, here's the patch the Cub Scout would earn when they learn safe knife handling: It's awfully hard to carve those pinewood derby cars with a spoon. WWJD? JW RTFM. Quote
smashsquatch Posted April 29, 2003 Posted April 29, 2003 licking county better ban deadfall, too then. i can hurt you a lot more with a thirty-pound tree limb than with a pocketknife. and let's not even talk about rocks. do these people know the definition of weapon? as a matter of fact, they probably oughta ban me. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ hey... what's that smell? Quote
+Jacksons Posted April 29, 2003 Posted April 29, 2003 Hmmmm,wonder if I could leave a chain saw in a cache I'm a man and I can change if I have to,I guess. Quote
AZcachemeister Posted May 4, 2003 Posted May 4, 2003 Don't most of those 'multi-tools' have at least one knife blade in them? How many children are out Geocaching without their parents? I'll bet if the tykes can handle a GPS, they can handle a 'Swiss-army' type knfe, too. Of course, a Croccodile Dundee type knife is another matter (besides, it wouldn't fit!). quote:Originally posted by BrianSnat:According to TPTB, knives in caches aren't allowed. Ya never know, a prison road crew could find the cache and use the knife to attack their guard . I will continue to leave Swiss Army "multi-tools" in caches however. _"It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues"_ -Abraham Lincoln [This message was edited by BrianSnat on April 28, 2003 at 04:15 AM.] Quote
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