Zuckerruebensirup Posted April 24, 2002 Share Posted April 24, 2002 For those who've either asked permission in advance of placing a cache, or have had one discovered by (or brought to the attention of) park authories, please tell us how it worked out: (Note that scenario #4 includes situations where caches had to be moved to a new location within the park at the request of park authorities.) Quote Link to comment
Zuckerruebensirup Posted April 24, 2002 Author Share Posted April 24, 2002 By the way, the scope of this poll does NOT include parks in which there was already an existing ban on (or approval of) Geocaching. (Votes as of this post, one each on choices 3 and 4.) ------- Join us at our first "geo-gathering" on 4/27/02! Quote Link to comment
+T-storm Posted April 24, 2002 Share Posted April 24, 2002 I asked Army Corps of Engineers Naturalists/Rangers for permission to place a cache. I submitted a letter of introduction (to myself and caching), proposed cache listing, detailed description of the stages of the cache, pictures of the cache containers and contents, a map marked with waypoints, and gave directions that one familiar with the trail system and surrounding parkland (undeveloped) would be able to follow. Pictures showed the cache both in the open and as it was proposed to be hidden. I provided full contact info. I was asked to verify mailing address and to sign and return a cost-free permit form good for one year ANYWHERE within the named park. I did so and things have been well. I later asked permission for a cache I adopted after it became unfindable due to missing clues and the cacher couldn't be contacted. I got a contact name for this ACE project location from the naturalist/ranger in the above case. I fixed the cache first, then sent in my proposal, minus several of the actual location pics since I (duh) forgot to take any. I was asked to alter the procedure for entering the area slightly (just so they have an idea of the traffic a geocache creates). I gladly did so and received written permission, but not an actual permit form this time. I've visited since and the on location folks you report in to when entering the area are very friendly and sometimes curious. I know this did not fit your poll choices, but I thought it important to indicate in this thread that asking permission could also have the result of being relatively painless, even when laying out all details as to be clear one has nothing to hide. It doesn't have to result in a "no" nor an inquisition! T-storm http://www.cordianet.com/geocaching [This message was edited by T-storm on April 24, 2002 at 08:52 PM.] Quote Link to comment
+T-storm Posted April 24, 2002 Share Posted April 24, 2002 I asked Army Corps of Engineers Naturalists/Rangers for permission to place a cache. I submitted a letter of introduction (to myself and caching), proposed cache listing, detailed description of the stages of the cache, pictures of the cache containers and contents, a map marked with waypoints, and gave directions that one familiar with the trail system and surrounding parkland (undeveloped) would be able to follow. Pictures showed the cache both in the open and as it was proposed to be hidden. I provided full contact info. I was asked to verify mailing address and to sign and return a cost-free permit form good for one year ANYWHERE within the named park. I did so and things have been well. I later asked permission for a cache I adopted after it became unfindable due to missing clues and the cacher couldn't be contacted. I got a contact name for this ACE project location from the naturalist/ranger in the above case. I fixed the cache first, then sent in my proposal, minus several of the actual location pics since I (duh) forgot to take any. I was asked to alter the procedure for entering the area slightly (just so they have an idea of the traffic a geocache creates). I gladly did so and received written permission, but not an actual permit form this time. I've visited since and the on location folks you report in to when entering the area are very friendly and sometimes curious. I know this did not fit your poll choices, but I thought it important to indicate in this thread that asking permission could also have the result of being relatively painless, even when laying out all details as to be clear one has nothing to hide. It doesn't have to result in a "no" nor an inquisition! T-storm http://www.cordianet.com/geocaching [This message was edited by T-storm on April 24, 2002 at 08:52 PM.] Quote Link to comment
Zuckerruebensirup Posted April 25, 2002 Author Share Posted April 25, 2002 Wow, I'm surprised that, out of over 180 views, only three people have asked permission to place a cache, or had one of their caches discovered. I would have thought there would be a higher percentage than that. ------- Join us at our first "geo-gathering" on 4/27/02! Quote Link to comment
+alchemist2000 Posted April 25, 2002 Share Posted April 25, 2002 Some of the park board members even asked how they could become geocachers. Quote Link to comment
+T-storm Posted April 25, 2002 Share Posted April 25, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Zuckerruebensirup: Wow, I'm surprised that, out of over 180 views, only three people have asked permission to place a cache, or had one of their caches discovered. I would have thought there would be a higher percentage than that. Four people, five now that Alchemist chimed in. But there's nowhere to vote in the poll if one asked and received permission without a hassle, so remember that votes may not equal requests. I also know of others who have asked locally, one of whom is currently active on the boards and who received permission when asking ahead, but I don't see his response. I am also aware of some caches that were removed/required to be removed in Austin, TX. The parks department there discovered the caches and didn't want them in preserve type parks. Last I heard the parks department there was having a dialog with cachers and trying to decide what their policy on caches would be. There is also one in a state park in central Texas where someone foolishly posted directions for entering the park without paying the fee, clearly KNOWING what he was doing. The ranger there is very aware of it and watches it to see who's jumping fences, so to speak. Those amount to more than half a dozen more. Your results might also be skewed by the fact that there is another poll with similar title in the forums, so folks may not really read yours closely before popping back to the list? Just a thought... T-storm http://www.cordianet.com/geocaching Quote Link to comment
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