+bthomas Posted May 27, 2003 Share Posted May 27, 2003 http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/05/27/cams.homeland.ap/index.html An article on distributed surveillance. Kinda like distributed computing for the SETI (ET phone home). Kinda like distributed hunting for tuperware: You are the search engine. Doing micro hunts at newsracks, store fronts, or parking structures? Smile, you're on candid camera. Quote Link to comment
+Sissy-n-CR Posted May 28, 2003 Share Posted May 28, 2003 What an exceedingly hair-brained idea! Pay thousands of untrained people to be security? I think not. Not only is it prohibitively expensive--especially considering the alternatives--it's just outright creepy! What was this guy thinking? Oh, yeah, how can I make more money without regard to the principles this country was founded on. Don't worry, this is about as likely to proceede as MicroSoft's Internet Loo or whatever it was called. (Which I think was deemed a hoax, wasn't it?) CR Quote Link to comment
+Tervas Posted May 28, 2003 Share Posted May 28, 2003 Nice toys for paranoids. -Errare humanum ets.- Quote Link to comment
+Divine Posted May 28, 2003 Share Posted May 28, 2003 'Distributed surveillance where YOU are the Big Brother.' - From the shallow end of the gene pool. - Quote Link to comment
+mr. bloodhound Posted May 28, 2003 Share Posted May 28, 2003 What next, a gun attached to the camera. Maybee it will pay an extra $10 per hour. Quote Link to comment
+Desert_Warrior Posted May 28, 2003 Share Posted May 28, 2003 quote:Originally posted by mr. bloodhound:What next, a gun attached to the camera. Been done already. Quite effective really. You would be amazed at the technology developed by the military (and others) that is in use today. It isn't as it used to be. Mike. Desert_Warrior (aka KD9KC). El Paso, Texas. Citizens of this land may own guns. Not to threaten their neighbors, but to ensure themselves of liberty and freedom. They are not assault weapons anymore... they are HOMELAND DEFENSE WEAPONS! Quote Link to comment
+Divine Posted May 28, 2003 Share Posted May 28, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Desert_Warrior: quote:Originally posted by mr. bloodhound:What next, a gun attached to the camera. Been done already. Quite effective really. What we need Nokia & buddies to develop next is to mount it all on a mobile phone. - I just got lost in thought. It was unfamiliar territory. - Quote Link to comment
+RJFerret Posted May 28, 2003 Share Posted May 28, 2003 Others question the effectiveness of a security system built on the Internet -- itself vulnerable to hackers, power outages and congestion. It's ignorance like this that diminishes the viability of this entrepreneurship. The beauty of the Internet is it routes around such problems. It's also ignorance like this that demonstrates why this concept wouldn't work. However, I'd be glad to get paid to play this "reality video-game" until it goes under! Randy PS: A buddy of mine, back in college, was paid by a major department store chain to test their individual stores security by "stealing" products! Ridiculously easy... Quote Link to comment
+Web-ling Posted May 28, 2003 Share Posted May 28, 2003 If this actually gets implemented, there's going to be a lot more Webcam caches out there... Quote Link to comment
+nctreker Posted May 28, 2003 Share Posted May 28, 2003 Of course on the dark side of the issue.. We're a nation that slows to gawk at car accidents, train wrecks, and we watch Jerry Springer... Makes you wonder if something like this were implemented how many would tune in to see a disaster. Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted May 28, 2003 Share Posted May 28, 2003 It's a stupid idea. Untrained people acting as spotters. If they needed trained spotters they would train them and pay them. This entire idea sounds like what a corporatino would to if it was in charge of government securtity to save themeselves money. And the wage for spotting would be minimum wage, not 10 bucks an hour. Plus foreign nationals would be paid as spotters as they are 'cheaper' than citizens. ===================== Wherever you go there you are. Quote Link to comment
dsandbro Posted May 28, 2003 Share Posted May 28, 2003 This idea would need to be improved greatly just to get up to the level of hare-brained. "If you see someone wearing a black mask scaling a fence..." Does anybody really believe all bad guys wear trenchcoats and masks? More likely it'll be an attack in a shopping mall by someone wearing a three piece suit. That really stands out, doesn't it? =========================================================== "The time has come" the Walrus said "to speak of many things; of shoes and ships and sealing wax, of cabbages and Kings". Quote Link to comment
+Team Tecmage Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 Wow! This might sound like a crazy idea, but who thought airport security would confiscate nail clippers? There are a couple of dangers here- 1) amatuer watchers creating a huge volume of false alarms, and 2) Internet vulnerability. RJFerret is right about the Internet's ability to route around some problems, but DOS Attacks on the right servers would not take out the Internet, but the servers responsible for distributing the images. Information usually has temporal value, and if you can delay distribution of images for 5-10 minutes, then the surveillence is beaten. This is a scary idea, but it's no more scarier than the Duct Tape and Plastic Sheeting Solution to Chemical and Biological attacks. Quote Link to comment
+wimseyguy Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 To quote a very smart American: Stupid is as stupid does! These changes in latitudes, changes in attitudes; Nothing remains quite the same. Through all of the islands and all of the highlands, If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane Quote Link to comment
+yrium Posted May 30, 2003 Share Posted May 30, 2003 I thought this was a novel solution to a problem that existing security firms face. They have employee's looking at the same images on their monitors hour after hour, shift after shift, so keeping vigilent is a huge problem. I sure everyone remembers the famous TAXI episode where Alex becomes a security guard and gets so bored he starts doing puppet shows instead of watching his screens. On the other hand, having these ten dollar an hour stay at home monitor jockeys looking at fresh images (to them) for as long as they decide to work would be a way of insuring that someone is actually looking at what the camera is trained on. I didn't think it was a stupid Idea at all. As to if its economically feasible... I don't know. --- yrium --- Quote Link to comment
+lostinjersey Posted May 30, 2003 Share Posted May 30, 2003 quote:A buddy of mine, back in college, was paid by a major department store chain to test their individual stores security by "stealing" products! Ridiculously easy... Second Level Manager: So were you able to steal anything? Your Buddy: Nope. I need to go back a few more times to really test these guys out though. It may have been a fluke (repeat endlessly till they get suspicious) william I am not smart enough or witty enough to think of anything worthy of a sig line. As a result I've never had a sig, never will. Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted May 30, 2003 Share Posted May 30, 2003 Well all I have to say is I am glad I live in the Forest.....ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL around.Put a camera on every tree HE HE...I'll see you fore you see me..thats the way its gotta be. I was always told that I was crazy but as time goes on the Paranoia insn't my own its the URBANITES.... THE MOST DANGEROUS ANIMAL IN THE FOREST DOES NOT EVEN LIVE THERE*********WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS*GEOTRYAGAIN **1803-2003 "LOUSIANA PURCHASE" 200TH ANNIVERSARY AND THE "LEWIS AND CLARK EXPADITION" http://www.lapurchase.org http://www.msnusers.com/MissouriTrails Quote Link to comment
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