Calling all techno geeks, answer please...

1.4k · July 17, 2003

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Woodsters wrote:
Am I wrong?

Yes, you are.

*****

July 17, 2003

Don't you think you are streching that a little. I mean if someone is going to be that picky about reading something off topic, just don't open anything that doesn't clearly say exactly what it is about. I completely agree that it may not have been a great topic, but we looked at it. I really fail to see the reason to flame on it. It only takes a second to hit the backspace key if it is something that doesn't interest you. I am not flaming you Jomarac5, I understand, but I just don't see it as Spam or a spam technique. As far as him saying about catching our attention, it did right?

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Originally posted by Jomarac5:

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Michael Whitt wrote:
I am not sure I follow the SPAM logic here Jomarac5.

The subject topic name has nothing to do with the topic. There is nothing in that topic name to indicate that this topic is about finding caches along a highway route. It's a deceptive ploy to get people who have no interest in the topic to read it. Woodsters opening line confirms it -- "Did it get your attention?". Read my 11:36 AM post -- it explains it there.

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July 17, 2003

Uh dude, saying someone uses "spam techniques" sounds like you are calling them a spammer. I think we all could just say maybe we should be more descriptive in our subjects, but I see no reason to say it was a spam technique.

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Originally posted by Jomarac5:

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Woodsters wrote:
Once again please read the spamlaws and try to understand the subject of SPAM some more....

I didn't say you were SPAMMING did I? I said that you were using SPAM techniques.

*****

July 17, 2003

I know that I am just contributing to this but what an interesting thread. It's like watching a couple fight in public. Your embarrassed to be hearing it but you can't look away.

1.4k · July 17, 2003

quote:
Michael Whitt wrote:
As far as him saying about catching our attention, it did right?

Yes it did. But he did it using deceptive measures.

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2.1k · July 17, 2003

Puhlease.....

Don't ever email anyone and say "Hi" in the subject. Cause you are using a SPAM technique....

Ok...now if I put in the Subject header of an email "Want to buy a car" , but I'm really trying to sll you a house in the email, then that is not deceptive? That's make no sense!

By the way, I never mentioned anything about SPAM to enlarge your genitals...

But if you feel someone gives a "Hi", and wants to sell you something is deceptive, then I don't think you know what deceptive is.

deceptive

causing one to believe what is not true or fail to believe what is true; "deceptive calm"; "a delusory pleasure" [syn: delusory] 2: tending to deceive or mislead either deliberately or inadvertently; "the deceptive calm in the eye of the storm"; "deliberately deceptive packaging"; "a misleading similarity"; "statistics can be presented in ways that are misleading" [syn: misleading]

So someone is misleading in this case, when they said hi? I was misleading when I said "Calling all Techno Geeks"? What did you think or expect to be in the subject?

Brian

As long as you're going to think anyway, think big. -Donald Trump

2.1k · July 17, 2003

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Originally posted by Cannonlaw:
I know that I am just contributing to this but what an interesting thread. It's like watching a couple fight in public. Your embarrassed to be hearing it but you can't look away.

Like a train wreck eh?

Brian

As long as you're going to think anyway, think big. -Donald Trump

1.4k · July 17, 2003

quote:
Michael Whitt wrote:
I think we all could just say maybe we should be more descriptive in our subjects, but I see no reason to say it was a spam technique.

Yes, descriptive subjects would be a polite courtesy. And it is a SPAM technique -- I'm just calling it what it is.

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5.3k · July 17, 2003

Maybe I can end this right now.

PLEASE USE DESCRIPTIVE SUBJECTS

Thank you.

"Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand."

July 17, 2003

Oh dude, come on. What is the big dealo? What did you think the thread was going to be about? I thought it was geared to tech heads, and it was asking for Technical info. What do you propose he should have listed it as? I understand what you are saying, but come on, people are different. We all have been guilty of subjects like that. But to say that it was deceptive and off topic is really stretching it. 50% of all the postings on ANY message board could have this said of them. This is a board for fun, not some corporate or government lets go by the books message board.

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Originally posted by Jomarac5:
But he did it using deceptive measures.

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1.4k · July 17, 2003

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Woodsters wrote:
Don't ever email anyone and say "Hi" in the subject. Cause you are using a SPAM technique....

But saying "Hi" in the subject header is not using the subject heading the way it was intended. Ambiguous subject headings are in many ways misleading and deceptive as well.

Look, just label your topic headings to reflect the subject and this all goes away.

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4.2k · July 17, 2003

Enough already. You've both made your points. I intended to post something helpful on here but now I've forgotten what the dadgum topic was in the first place.

You guys can agree to disagree.

For future: If you have a problem with one individual, why not contact them directly via their profile page after the first post and deal with it that way instead of cluttering up the message boards. You're not doing anybody any favors by lashing out directly at each other-

1.4k · July 17, 2003

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Michael Whitt wrote:
What do you propose he should have listed it as?

Dude, I think it would have been a whole lot better if it was named "Need help finding caches along a highway". Doesn't that make more sense?

The real kicker here is the smart a$$ "made you look"comment in the first post of this thread. It implied that there was deliberate deception.

*****

July 17, 2003

I once again come back to the question of SPAM. To me us continuing to fill up this thread with this nonsense is just as much SPAM as his subject. He wasn't trying to sell anything. YES he could have been more descriptive, but what did his subject hurt? Obviously you have the time to read it, even off topic, as you continue to go back and forth trying to convience him that it was spam. As long as it wasn't a subject like, "Hey Kids" and you open it up and it has links to porn sites, what does it matter? He had a legitiate question, but just didn't word the subject right. Do you honestly think that he was trying to trick people to read his posting? Is he really that vane that he would do that? What would be in it for him?

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Originally posted by Jomarac5:

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Michael Whitt wrote:
I think we all could just say maybe we should be more descriptive in our subjects, but I see no reason to say it was a spam technique.

Yes, descriptive subjects would be a polite courtesy. And it is a SPAM technique -- I'm just calling it what it is.

*****

July 17, 2003

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Originally posted by Jomarac5:

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Michael Whitt wrote:
I think we all could just say maybe we should be more descriptive in our subjects, but I see no reason to say it was a spam technique.

Yes, descriptive subjects would be a polite courtesy. And it is a SPAM technique -- I'm just calling it what it is.

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2.1k · July 17, 2003

I did title my thread the way I intended it, If you aren't a techno geek, then don't come in....

Using the subject line to say hi is not the way it was intended? dadgum I must of missed that years ago in my "Computers 101" class...How could I have ever missed that?!

Get real...this was my thread. I titled it the way I wanted it. No one has said they have a problem with it except you, which your reason is bogus and makes no sense.

Please feel free to email me and we can discuss SPAM techniques. I will be happy to forward many exapmles to you...

Brian

As long as you're going to think anyway, think big. -Donald Trump

July 17, 2003

I am not usually someone that will stand between 2 individuals that have a dispute, but you 2 are simply being childish. If you choose to continue the topic of what is spam and what is not or who is spamming or who is not, please do so by either email or simply exchange phone numbers and do so via a phone call. None of my business but it looks like a few little kids fighting over spilled milk. Give us all a break and quit the childish "he said, no he said" games. By the way, I use Buxley's also. Just my 2 cents worth, take it or leave it!

The Cache Couple

East TN

July 17, 2003

It would have made more sense, and yes it is what I most likely would have done, but in the end it was his thread and unless an admin tells him to change it, I don't think it is really a big deal.

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Originally posted by Jomarac5:

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Michael Whitt wrote:
What do you propose he should have listed it as?

Dude, I think it would have been a whole lot better if it was named "Need help finding caches along a highway". Doesn't that make more sense?

The real kicker here is the smart a$$ "made you look"comment in the first post of this thread. It implied that there was deliberate deception.

*****

1.4k · July 17, 2003

quote:
Michael Whitt wrote:
as you continue to go back and forth trying to convience him that it was spam.

What you don't get is that I never once said that he was SPAMMING. I said that he was using a SPAM technique.

As I said in an earlier post, as a courtesy to everyone just label your topic headings to reflect the subject and this all goes away.

*****

July 17, 2003

Dude, that is the same thing as calling him a spammer. Anyway, okay, you got your point across, but I seriously doubt he is going to change it just because it ruffled your feathers, if you know what I mean.

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Originally posted by Jomarac5:

quote:
Michael Whitt wrote:
as you continue to go back and forth trying to convience him that it was spam.

What you don't get is that I never once said that he was SPAMMING. I said that he was using a SPAM technique.

As I said in an earlier post, as a courtesy to everyone just label your topic headings to reflect the subject and this all goes away.

*****

2.1k · July 17, 2003

Ok my last on this bit and I'm out of here...

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Originally posted by Jomarac5:
Michael Whitt wrote:
Dude, I think it would have been a whole lot better if it was named "Need help finding caches along a highway". Doesn't that make more sense?

In your terms that would be deceptive...you might of been thinking of a certain highway, but I meant another...

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The real kicker here is the smart a$$ "made you look"comment in the first post of this thread. It implied that there was deliberate deception.

*****

I made a remark asking if it got there attention, yes. It was an ice breaker, there was no decption there. Perhaps if I titled it "Naked Girls" and then there were none, it would of been.

I think this is a personal problem of yours...perhaps you will be able to overcome it...

Brian

As long as you're going to think anyway, think big. -Donald Trump

July 17, 2003

Well at least it can't be said that your thread wasn't interesting Woodster. ha ha.

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Originally posted by Woodsters Outdoors:
Ok my last on this bit and I'm out of here...

quote:
Originally posted by Jomarac5:
Michael Whitt wrote:
Dude, I think it would have been a whole lot better if it was named "Need help finding caches along a highway". Doesn't that make more sense?

In your terms that would be deceptive...you might of been thinking of a certain highway, but I meant another...

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The real kicker here is the smart a$$ "made you look"comment in the first post of this thread. It implied that there was deliberate deception.

*****

I made a remark asking if it got there attention, yes. It was an ice breaker, there was no decption there. Perhaps if I titled it "Naked Girls" and then there were none, it would of been.

I think this is a personal problem of yours...perhaps you will be able to overcome it...

Brian

_As long as you're going to think anyway, think big. -Donald Trump_

NeuroNomad & Sublonde's Page

20.7k · July 17, 2003

OK guys, take it outside. Believe it or not, some people are interested in the topic of this thread.

The way I currently find caches along a route is as follows. I find a cache at the beginning of my journey and put it on my watch list. I then search by closest caches to this cache. I look at those caches going in the direction of my journey. If any are keepers, I put them on my watch list. As my route changes direction, I search from a new cache along the route. Eventually, I have all the caches along my route on my watch list. Finally, I run a PQ of those caches on my watch list.

July 17, 2003

That's a great idea, a little work though, ha ha. Speaking of similar as far as Buxley I would like to see them team up with GeoCaching.com and maybe on the maps have different colors for the Virtuals, multis, etc.

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Originally posted by sbell111:
OK guys, take it outside. Believe it or not, some people are interested in the topic of this thread.

The way I currently find caches along a route is as follows. I find a cache at the beginning of my journey and put it on my watch list. I then search by closest caches to this cache. I look at those caches going in the direction of my journey. If any are keepers, I put them on my watch list. As my route changes direction, I search from a new cache along the route. Eventually, I have all the caches along my route on my watch list. Finally, I run a PQ of those caches on my watch list.

NeuroNomad & Sublonde's Page

1.6k · July 17, 2003

Jeremy had a topic going about this, and it indicated that it might become a possibility in the future via the site.

I would also like to have the potential to find caches along kayak routes. But I'll start another thread for that one.

And ideas what I should call it?

1.4k · July 17, 2003

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Canadzuuk wrote:
Any ideas what I should call it?

How about "Get your candy apples here" -- ya, that's got a nice ring to it. And don't forget to add "ha ha, made you look" as the first line of your initial post.

In all seriousness, I think being able to find caches along a specific route is a good, useful idea.

*****

3.9k · July 17, 2003

Woodster and Jomarac5, why can't you two just admit that you're in love with each other? Everyone else sees it. It's tearing us up that you're fighting this way.

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1.4k · July 17, 2003

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Mushtang wrote:
Woodster and Jomarac5, why can't you two just admit that you're in love with each other?

Hardly. That's an odd thing to say. But it does appear that there's nothing left to say about it. Thanks for your inciting prose.

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24.7k · July 17, 2003

No I'm not aware of a means to do this yet. It's rather geocaching specific and someone will have to figure out to add it to their software along with GPX/waypoint managment.

You have to do it the old fashioned way.

1.7k · July 17, 2003

I'll go ahead and post this here, even though the chance of it being read is pretty slim.

Yesterday, I submitted changes to GPSBabel that will allow it to filter a list of waypoints to include only the ones that are within a given distance of a given route.

I also have a program that can extract the coordinates from a route file saved by Street Atlas 2003 or Topo USA 4.0 into a format that will work with the GPSBabel update; I'll make it available on my website when I think it's ready for prime time (probably this weekend.)

Today, I made some more changes that will let you use a route or track from your Magellan GPS receiver or from Mapsend for the same purpose.

Neat, huh? Only one problem: it's still *&$#%impossible to get a GPX file that includes every cache in a given state. However, it'll work pretty well for shorter routes (i.e. routes of a few hundred miles from end to end through areas of average cache density.)

(Oh, and the changes are of course not yet in the current public build of GPSBabel, but they will be eventually.)

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1.7k · July 17, 2003

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Originally posted by Renegade Knight:
It's rather geocaching specific

It's not, really. What if you're addicted to Krispy Kreme, and you have a list of all of the Krispy Kreme stores and gas stations that carry Krispy Kreme doughnuts in the world, and you want to know where to stop for breakfast on your cross-country road trip?

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July 17, 2003

While I read that you have no interest in searching the fora for information that has been discussed to death, it isn't difficult and can provide useful results.

For instance, you would have come up with this discussion that began just two days ago.

What is tougher to do?

a. search the fora and perhaps get a topic that doesn't fit your criteria (learning experience, refine search)

or

b. have the thread that you just had

Continuing to disregard the tools that are provided to you so someone can hand deliver your work for you is surely not a way to endear yourself to others.

Fro.

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Geocaching . . . hiking with a purpose

1k · July 17, 2003

Wow, skimming through this thread and realizing that 90% of it had nothing to topic (I won't get into how the topic had nothing to do with the subject ... oops, too late!)

Anyway, what you are looking for is a GIS (which just happens to be what I do for a living). GIS = Geographical Information Systems. Mapquest is an example of a GIS.

What you are trying to do is certainly possible, but you are limited by the software that you have available. You would need to be able to set up routes (like MapQuest does), and create a buffer around the selected path. You would also need to be able to import a list of coordinates and convert that to points on your map. Then you just select all the points that fall within your buffer, and voila - you have your list of potential geocaches.

Gee, maybe I should develop this and make my millions that way!

-Junglehair

I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.

July 17, 2003

To get back to the original thread. Become a premium member and get the downloads for your GPS based on your L&L. As you travel, change the L&L and order up new downloads for you GPS and PDA. That way you can travel and have all the closest caches right at your fingertips.

*s*

1.3k · July 17, 2003

I hope that the pic in my sig line is not construed as spam. Bloen Customs is the name of an anodizing business we tried to start, but it failed. Bloen is also the name we used when entering paintball tournaments. If you click the image, nothing happens, nothing is supposed to happen. It's merely there to personalise my posts.

"Chock full of essential vitamins and waypoints"

July 17, 2003

not sure the point of this two page thread. so if you have a point, start a new thread and keep it on topic.

hydee

Calling all techno geeks, answer please...

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