What do you say if you get caught?

July 7, 2003

I am somewhat new to Geocaching...I lurked for about a year before joining. May I ask you experienced cachers a question I posed on another thread, but it sort of got lost in the chat...

What do you say to a policeman or authority if you get caught? We usually have just been searching in the parks so I think we are OK.

And um...what do you say if you and your hubby, soulmate, lifemate, roomate, life partner...whatever...get caught being amorous in the forest? Last time that happened to me , was 25 years ago!....But...it is always a possibility...hahahahah...my kids are off to camp for a month and the hunny and I will be out caching alone...you never know...

1.2k · July 7, 2003

Oh c'mon.... you are how old? Not literally asking that, more as a rhetorical question.

If you "get caught" (phrasing implies you're doing something wrong....) while geocaching, just have one of the page printouts for a cache with you and show it to them. Explain you are engaged in a great family oriented activity that gets you out from behind your computer and into the great outdoors, and "by the way officer, you didn't just happen to see a camo ammo can around here, eh?"

LOL.

Now, on the other one, you're on your own....heheheh.

Client: But what about the talking cat? Psychiatrist: I don't know....

"Trade up, trade even, or don't trade!!!" My philosophy of life.

2.5k · July 7, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by yummykaz:
What do you say to a policeman or authority if you get caught?

Tell the police the truth. If they are not police then question their authority. If you are satisfied they are the authority then tell the truth again. If they only think they are the authority, tell them you were being amorous in the forest.

July 7, 2003

I got "caught" benchmark hunting on the side of a hill next to a dam - a cop stopped at the top of the hill and yelled down at me "What are you doing?" I said, "I'm using my Global Positioning Unit to locate a surveyor's benchmark, its a hobby of mine, and there's supposed to be one on this hill!" I held up my yellow etrex and waved my printouts in the air....

That seemed to satisfy him. He told me to be careful, then he left.

Haven't been questioned while geocaching yet, but if a cop approached I'd explain what I was doing. Since I cut-and-paste the info for my cache hunts, my printouts don't look very official so those wouldn't help me very much. I think most cops would understand the geocaching concept if explained briefly.

24.7k · July 7, 2003

Well now. Generally I just try to look like I own the place and people generally leave me be. If I'm flat out busted though I will tell them exactly what I'm doing.

Once coming off a hill in my T-shirt, tennis shoes and wading in 3' of snow my partner and I were very much busted by groupl of women on snow shoes who had pretty much stopped to stare at us. They waited patently while we floundered around wishing we had snow shoes. Then they asked us what we were doing so I told them. They loved it entire idea and couldn't wait to get home to tell their husbands.

Maybe I made some converts that day.

July 7, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by Renegade Knight:
Well now. Generally I just try to look like I own the place and people generally leave me be.

I had some teenager come up near me to find out what I was up to on a recent night cache in a city park. He was there with a bunch of dumbass kids, shouting at me from a few hundred yards away. The park was closed, so none of us were allowed to be there.

I went into cop mode and asked him if he wanted to get locked up. It was kind of funny for a while, but I let him know I was just screwing with him after a few minutes. He seemed like an okay kid. He was so relieved, he never saw the tupperware in my sandwich clamp! Hah!

Sometimes a good offense is your best defense.

-Vb

Edit: I've never been asked what I was doing by any authority figure whilst caching, but I guess I would just tell the truth, as suggested above.

[This message was edited by Verboten on July 07, 2003 at 10:40 PM.]

July 7, 2003

I scream like a school girl, throw my gpsr at the officer and run like hell while yelling, "Help! Help! I'm being oppressed!!!"

Just kidding.

I find that a smile and a little honesty usually does the trick. I actually had one police officer write down the internet address for geocaching.com because he thought it sounded like "a lot of fun".

Jolly R. Blackburn

http://kenzerco.com

"Never declare war on a man who buys his ink by the gallon."

1.2k · July 8, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by Jolly B Good:
I scream like a school girl, throw my gpsr at the officer and run like hell while yelling, "Help! Help! I'm being oppressed!!!"

Just kidding.

I find that a smile and a little honesty usually does the trick. I actually had one police officer write down the internet address for geocaching.com because he thought it sounded like "a lot of fun".

Jolly R. Blackburn

http://kenzerco.com

"Never declare war on a man who buys his ink by the gallon."

Oh man, I like to fell out of my chair I was laughing so hard....lol. Man do I love thatt movie....lol.

Truth is, I've learned about a lot of neat stuff in my life by coming into contact with folks while they were just engaging in some recreational activity. Other nosy folks would think something suspicious was going on and we'd have to respond only to find out there was nothing out of the ordinary. On the other hand we'd sometimes run into the "Black Helicopter" crowd and all their silliness and nothing constructive would come of it...Ha!

Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time.....

"Trade up, trade even, or don't trade!!!" My philosophy of life.

July 8, 2003

I got caught checking one of my caches in a local park , by a nearby home owner. I went over what I was doing there showed him the cache and printout where to find the web site. By the time I was over he said he was going to borrow his brother gps and try to find some himself.

July 8, 2003

It doesn't matter what I tell people.... they always think we're being amourous in the forest. I guess the twigs in the hair, leaves on the clothes and the self-satisfied smirk of a cacher who's just found the loot makes people think that. Sometimes its just easier to look guilty and say that yes, you were being amourous in the forest. Although, pretending to be amourous (or at least affectionate) is great cover when you're right close to a cache and muggles wander over. A few times, hubby and I have used that cover until they pass by. You know, locked in a close embrace while he whispers passionately in my ear "Ooh baby! I think the cache is about two feet behind your left foot!"

3.9k · July 8, 2003

A friend of mine was caught by a cop while caching, but it turned out that the officer was curious about the cache that he'd found earlier and was keeping an eye on it waiting for someone to show up.

Read CaptRussell's entry for the Foreign Cash Cache by FourWitches. It's a pretty neat story.

There are three kinds of people in the world. Those that can count, and those that cannot.

July 8, 2003

Ask her:

quote:
January 23 by Sugar Lump
After a rather extensive search-maybe I should go back to the non-GPS system, found with the help of Officer Maryanne of the Fall River PD. She, and two other FR PD Officers arrived after a firefighter called for assistance after noticing a professionally dressed woman looking like she may be considering jumping. Unfortunately or perhaps fortunately, I was wearing my ID tag with my picture, company name, title as a staff therapist, and a wiggling monster from another cache (that my clients just love to pull). I really thought I was going to be taken to the Fall River Crisis Center for awhile there for a psych eval until I produced the computer print-out, especially as there was a bag of heroin near the cache. Luckily, the officer found exactly what I had described (of course I had already looked there & didn't find it) and went off wishing me luck on other caches! A little too close for comfort but a great story! Thanks for the adventure (I think).

9.1k · July 8, 2003

As a newbie I was somewhat paranoid about being stopped for questioning. It finally happened five months later, during a night caching trip when I was inadvertently trespassing. Once we explained what we were doing, the officer was not only friendly but he escorted us to a safe parking location. But I was still a bit wigged out from the experience, as I'm a lawyer and I don't need any sort of a police record. I gave much thought to how I would handle future interactions.

Since then, I have had many more encounters with law enforcement and they have all been positive. First, I wear an outfit that has MANY muggles mistaking me for a ranger or other official. I look like I am SUPPOSED to be there. (The State Park Conservation Volunteer Patch I'm sewing onto my olive drab caching vest will help even more.) And I am supposed to be there, because there's a geocache to be found. Second, if I see a ranger or cop, I am likely to walk up and say hello. I will give a big smile, remark on how nice or bad the weather is, say how much I'm enjoying my visit to the park, and thank the official for his work in keeping the park safe. If I'm asked what I'm doing, I'll tell the truth, ranging from "I'm hunting one of the geocaches placed in this park with permission" to "I'm using my GPS unit to play an adventure game while I'm hiking today." Both are true statements, but I'll use the second statement if there's any doubt about whether permission was obtained for the cache placement. So far, I've never been questioned beyond this.

The key is to be honest and courteous. We have nothing to hide and we are doing nothing wrong. We are enjoying the park.

As for being amorous in the woods, I've never been caught because Leprechauns are very, very fast.

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Some mornings, it just doesn't pay to chew through the leather straps. - Emo Phillips

9.2k · July 8, 2003

A security guard stopped my while I was looking for a micro placed in the parking lot of a local eating establishment. When he asked me what I was doing, I told him I think I had lost my sunglasses there the day before, and was looking for them. He didn't seem to notice one bit that I actually had my sunglasses on top of my head at the time.

"Don't mess with a geocacher. We know all the best places to hide a body."

July 8, 2003

DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR RIGHTS to "Authority".

If you have done nothing wrong, then the cops should not harass you AT ALL - ignore him. If he persists, ask if you are under arrest. If you are not, then go on about your business.

Now, if you happen to be trespassing then by all means, explain away....

2.3k · July 8, 2003

I guess I am the "Black Helicoptor" crowd. I tend to think that if I am in a public place, why should I have to answer anyones questions if I am not doing anything wrong? In this post-9/11 world, the powers that be have many people playing the role of "cop" (for free), bringing back shades of the Soviet "tell on your neighbor for a reward" paranoia. There was a lawsuit filed against the police here by a man who was walking down the street and did not stop to answer a cops questions, basically ignoring the officer. He stated in court that since he had done nothing wrong, he had the RIGHT to be left alone. He won the case.

July 8, 2003

I got stopped by a mall security guard rent-a-cop last night at 11:00. I told him I dropped something out of my car and was looking for it alongside the road.

Another time I told a bystander that I was looking for a digital camera lost in the weeds.

My all-time favorite though comes from Jetskier. Check out my log and his answer on this cache:

Grantham Point

Funny stuff.

1k · July 8, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by The Leprechauns:
As for being amorous in the woods, I've never been caught because Leprechauns are very, very fast.

Hey Leprechaun - do you really think that's something to brag about?

-Junglehair

I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.

9.1k · July 8, 2003

I wasn't "bragging," just making a statement of fact. There are any number of geocachettes who can testify that they barely even realized I was there. Watch out, I will be in Rochester next week.

EDIT: I arrived early. Was it good for you, too?

x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x

Some mornings, it just doesn't pay to chew through the leather straps. - Emo Phillips

[This message was edited by The Leprechauns on July 08, 2003 at 01:15 PM.]

1.2k · July 8, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by SuperAlpha:
DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR RIGHTS to "Authority".

If you have done nothing wrong, then the cops should not harass you AT ALL - ignore him. If he persists, ask if you are under arrest. If you are not, then go on about your business.

Now, if you happen to be trespassing then by all means, explain away....

Ah, I see. Now what if you are trespassing but you are unaware, and all the nice officer was going to do was inform you and ask that you leave? Ignore him at your own risk...LOL. I can't tell you the number of times I have simply wanted to assist or inform someone of something and they turned out to have an "attitude" which resulted in not getting the information I had for them. This usually resulted in something bad happening to them or their arrest, or whatever. All they had to do is not be so paranoid and they would have been much better off. But us evil "authority" folks, we are out to take away all your rights and defeat democracy as we know it, oh, and take away all your guns as well (hmmm, I'm sure that's not the whole list, but hey, they don't make us memorize it, we just play it by ear...LOL).

Man, you guys crack me up....LOL.

"Trade up, trade even, or don't trade!!!" My philosophy of life.

20.7k · July 8, 2003

I start with 'I have diplomatic immunity, take me to my country's embassy'. If that doesn't fly, I go with, 'I want to see my lawyer'.

July 8, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by SuperAlpha:
DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR RIGHTS to "Authority".

If you have done nothing wrong, then the cops should not harass you AT ALL - ignore him. If he persists, ask if you are under arrest. If you are not, then go on about your business.

Now, if you happen to be trespassing then by all means, explain away....

I agree with you in principle but I think it's important to remain courteous. Afterall the guy is doing his job (espeically in the post 911 environment).

I think it's important that we understand geocaching does look suspicious to the uninformed. A simple inquiry into what the heck you were up to poking about the bushes in the middle of a college campus isn't exactly harassment.

If, after explaining what you are doing you feel the officer is being unreasonable that's another story.

Jolly R. Blackburn

http://kenzerco.com

"Never declare war on a man who buys his ink by the gallon."

July 8, 2003

Stealth Techniques

As a mature woman dressed neatly and giving off an aura of authority, I have adopted the air of the "inspector." The last time I got asked by a homeowner what I was testing for, I said I was testing the structure for microfractures, (indicating the bridge I was headed for,) which may have resulted from the recent earthquake activity. I was deadpan serious, and it amazed me that a grown man could believe that a handheld device could somehow test for stress fractures in a concrete bridge!

I have also politely asked an elderly couple if they would mind moving while I checked the bolts under a set of benches, looking for a magnetic micro cache. Not finding the cache, I slapped the bench and proclaimed, "Yes, this one's all right," and the couple nodded at each other and sat back down- I had a hard time keeping a straight face on that one.

The khaki shirt with the epaulets and the clipboard assist the whole image.

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July 8, 2003

I was a police officer for several years, and am now working in the court system. I can certainly understand an officer wanting to find out what a person is doing poking around in the bushes and looking under rocks, stumbling around with a confused look on their face, especially if he is not familiar with geocaching. He may just think you need help (police officers do frequently assist people in distress, believe it or not). If you explain it to him, you have probably just introduced another geocacher to the game. If you cop an attitude or "ignore" him, all you have done is attracted more attention to yourself, and made that officer even more suspicious than he was. And yes, an officer can detain and even pat down a person "making furtive movements" or "acting suspiciously"(read Terry vs Ohio, a landmark case) but if you explain politely what you are doing, he won't have a reason to bother you any more than he has to. He is, after all, doing what he is supposed to do. In principal, of course, it would be nice if there were no need for police, firemen, etc. but in the real world, especially after 911, one alert officer might make a difference. Give them a break, and if you aren't doing anything illegal anyway, what's the problem?

July 8, 2003

If a ranger or the police ask me what I'm doing I simply tell the truth. If it is someone else I usually play it by ear. If it seems they would be interested in geocaching I will explain the hobby/activity/sport to them - if not I say something like "The Girl/Boy Scouts are doing a scavenger hunt in the area and I'm helping my son/daughter”. Like The Leprechauns, I also wear a very nerdish vest with patches on it that make it look like I'm supposed to be there snooping around. And it always helps to have my 3 girls and Golden Retriever with me so it looks like I'm harmless

1.2k · July 8, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by Jolly B Good:

quote:
Originally posted by SuperAlpha:
DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR RIGHTS to "Authority".

If you have done nothing wrong, then the cops should not harass you AT ALL - ignore him. If he persists, ask if you are under arrest. If you are not, then go on about your business.

Now, if you happen to be trespassing then by all means, explain away....

I agree with you in principle but I think it's important to remain courteous. Afterall the guy is doing his job (espeically in the post 911 environment).

I think it's important that we understand geocaching does look suspicious to the uninformed. A simple inquiry into what the heck you were up to poking about the bushes in the middle of a college campus isn't exactly harassment.

If, after explaining what you are doing you feel the officer is being unreasonable that's another story.

Jolly R. Blackburn

http://kenzerco.com

"Never declare war on a man who buys his ink by the gallon."

All of you, listen to this man, he knows what he's talking about....lol. Honest, I'm not kidding for once....

No, I'm really, really, really, really serious! C'mon, quit laughing....

Man, try to be serious just once, and see what it gets ya?

(Seriously, thanks Jolly, couldn't have said it better myself).

Narrator: "The secret password for today's game is (whispering) 'reasonable'".

Game show host: "Alrighty then, Red Skelton, you give the first clue for your partner."

Red: "Hmmmm, uh, what you should be when dealing with the police?

Contestant: "Uh, er, ummmm."

Red: "Okay, what the police should be when they are dealing with you?"

Contestant: "Oh, oh, I think I know this one, it's, it's, uh, oh, I can't think.... REASONABLE!"

Game show host: "And we have a WINNER!!!!"

"Trade up, trade even, or don't trade!!!" My philosophy of life.

1.3k · July 8, 2003

I have an anwser ready for those urban micros, "Lost a roll of film here yesterday"

"Chock full of essential vitamins and waypoints"

2.3k · July 8, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by BloenCustoms:
I have an anwser ready for those urban micros, "Lost a roll of film here yesterday"

Good one, I will say it in Russian and wave my arms around, that should satisfy them!

July 8, 2003

my family all thought this was a dumb idea. then they all went on one and got hooked we went to a park that night as i signed the log with the time i thought hey don't the parks close at 10p. when wegot back to the p-lot we found our selves locked in we have to call the cops to unlock the gate he aqsked what we were doing so late in the park (all 7 of us) this late we told him he look very confused and let us out.

quote:
It's my therapy that is keeping you alive. Now give me back my meds.

July 8, 2003

print out the front page of geocaching.com, and carry that. the cache letter is a good carry also. a simple explanation will almost always satisfy a PO that is conducting an investigation.

ignoring a PO that is investigating a "suspicious person" might wreck your day. that would be like erasing the fine line between genious and insanity.

of course if you feel oppressed or harassed.. try the method SuperAlpha suggested. let me know how it works out. good luck.

robbie

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July 9, 2003

quote:
And um...what do you say if you and your hubby, soulmate, lifemate, roomate, life partner...whatever...get caught being amorous in the forest? Last time that happened to me , was 25 years ago!....But...it is always a possibility...hahahahah...my kids are off to camp for a month and the hunny and I will be out caching alone...you never know...

Watch out for the poison ivy.

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1k · July 9, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by The Leprechauns:
I wasn't "bragging," just making a statement of fact. There are any number of geocachettes who can testify that they barely even realized I was there. Watch out, I will be in Rochester next week.

EDIT: I arrived early. Was it good for you, too?

Looking at your profile Leprechaun; I see you are an attorney - no wonder I feel like I just got scr.... (edited for family content). No wait... you can't be a lawyer - you have your hand in your OWN pocket!

-Junglehair

I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.

July 9, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by Renegade Knight:
Once coming off a hill in my T-shirt, tennis shoes and wading in 3' of snow my partner and I were very much busted by groupl of women on snow shoes who had pretty much stopped to stare at us. They waited patently while we floundered around wishing we had snow shoes. Then they asked us what we were doing so I told them. They loved it entire idea and couldn't wait to get home to tell their husbands.

Were you geocaching or being amorous?! The lack of pants and floundering around made me think it was the latter though I'm not sure why you'd need snow shoes...If it WAS the latter I bet the women's husbands were _thrilled_ lol

July 10, 2003

Boy, is this thread good. I am a new Geocacher, having learned about it through Where's George.

There are numerous stories by Georgers who have had bad experiences paying with their Georged bills. These are most likely Georgers who stamp their bills several times and possibly even obnoxiously. It seems that there's a fair portion of the general public who mistakenly think it's illegal to write on (or stamp) paper money.

Personally, I go for a more subtle marking approach and rarely get any remarks.

July 10, 2003

quote:
Sometimes its just easier to look guilty and say that yes, you were being amourous in the forest. Although, pretending to be amourous (or at least affectionate) is great cover when you're right close to a cache and muggles wander over. A few times, hubby and I have used that cover until they pass by. You know, locked in a close embrace while he whispers passionately in my ear "Ooh baby! I think the cache is about two feet behind your left foot!"

ROFLOL......I'm dying!!! That is soo funny...

If God is your co-pilot, it's time to change seats!!!

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1.5k · July 10, 2003

She told me she was 18, I swear!!!!

Oh, wait. This is for another thread.

Brian

Team A.I.

2k · July 10, 2003

I was caching in Omaha a while back and was stopped by a policeman. When I explained what I was doing I was surprised that not only did he know what I was talking about, but he knew where the cache was located. He made it clear that he would not assist me in my search, but he did chase off a group of teenagers who had taken an interest in what I was doing so I could complete my quest.

3k · July 10, 2003

one of my favorites from these forums was the cacher (who's name I cannot recall at this time) told someone in one of "those cruising parks" that he was checking the hidden surveillance cameras and the parking lot emptied out in a heartbeat. That was priceless.

Cache you later,

Planet

So many caches, so little time.

July 10, 2003

quote:
There are any number of geocachettes who can testify that they barely even realized I was there.

Oh I just had to reply to this one...as far as the 'amorous' part, I can't comment, but I do remember a certain day where a mutual friend announced that our geo hunting posse (including lep) on a geocaching hunt, were going to get naked, we hoped to chase off the muggles that were questioning our presence by a nearby cache...then they decided to wait around and see if we actually were about to disrobe.

However, Lep is like lightning, I've watched him RUN up a 3-3.5 terrain, and i mean RUN, not a jog or a fast walk, he RAN. GO LEP GO!

"The more I study nature, the more I am amazed at the Creator."

- Louis Pasteur

1k · July 10, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by Ce'Nedra:
I do remember a certain day where a mutual friend announced that our geo hunting posse (including lep) on a geocaching hunt, were going to get naked...

Hmmm, co-ed naked geocaching - where can I get one of THOSE t-shirt?

-Junglehair

I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.

1.2k · July 11, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by Night Stalker:
I was caching in Omaha a while back and was stopped by a policeman. When I explained what I was doing I was surprised that not only did he know what I was talking about, but he knew where the cache was located. He made it clear that he would not assist me in my search, but he did chase off a group of teenagers who had taken an interest in what I was doing so I could complete my quest.

Now that's my kind of Police Officer...lol. Heck, that could have been me!! Well, probably not, as I'm not in the Omaha area... but I'd love to have that happen and the other person not know I am a Geocacher. I'd either pretend I'd never heard of it and make them go through an elaborate explanation (good for entertainment purposes), then introduce myself and let them know, or do just what this officer did. Good on him!

"Trade up, trade even, or don't trade!!!" My philosophy of life.

9.1k · July 11, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by Ce'Nedra:

quote:
There are any number of geocachettes who can testify that they barely even realized I was there.
Oh I just had to reply to this one...as far as the 'amorous' part, I can't comment, but I do remember a certain day....

That makes me so sad. Perhaps the most erotic 24 seconds of my life, and you don't even remember it.

quote:
Lep is like lightning, I've watched him RUN up a 3-3.5 terrain, and i mean RUN, not a jog or a fast walk, he RAN. GO LEP GO!

I find that it is much easier to go up a hill without 55 pounds of 9-year old Leprechaun on my back.

OK, just to keep this post marginally on topic, here is a picture of me looking all official-like. I am a sign inspector. I am questioning whether there is only ONE virgin left in Perry Township who is being warned to run away.

July 11, 2003

At least three local police officers here in Huntsville, Alabama are geocachers. Two of them have hidden quite a few caches around here and one of them found one of mine while on duty

If you know any policemen who cache, you could mention their name to an officer if you are questioned. I've never had to...

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July 11, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by cmpalmer:
...one of them found one of mine while on duty

Ahh, I love seeing our tax dollars working so hard...

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July 15, 2003

Very quickly press a series of random buttons on your GPSr, look to the sky, and scream "Abort! Abort!" into your wristwatch before running away.

July 15, 2003

The only time I have ever been stopped and asked by an 'authority' was on a caching trip in Graham County Arizona. I was parked on the side of the road checking the information on my PDA and verifying with my GPS... when a County Sherrif's Deputy stopped next to me. He asked what I was doing, and I showed him what I was looking at, and explained geocaching. He's response was heartwarming... he said he would go check it out. He had just bought a GPSr and was wondering what else he could do with it.

His initial concern was that I was in an area where the local criminals liked to dump stolen property (stripped cars).

Log for the find...

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=47662

of course there are also any caches I do with my team mate.

July 15, 2003

I carry a set of big binoculars and occasionally

look through them. I am a birder, as well as a

geocacher, and that satifies most folks.

July 16, 2003

I was in a ravine, next to a small urban park in San Diego. Had to crawl through a fence to get to the ravine. Suddenly I heard a helicopter over head and a loudspeaker and figured one of the families in the park called the police. They were actually searching for a home invader in the area, but man was I paranoid till i found the cache and skedaddled.

What do you say if you get caught?

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