+Torry Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 My major goof came at "The world's most visible cache" just south of Fort Wayne, IN. It was a company vehicle and the company doesn't know about it. I had to edit my post to make sure. My wife won't let me go near that cache any more. Quote Link to comment
+Nazgul Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 "....ok, Tommy, plus 5 right, small ridge, plus 2 left, don't cut, plus 4 right...oh, wait, that's lefAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" LOL! I do have to admit to being on a cache hunt in the area and I was in my M3, on a very lovely twisty road, and the old WRC theme came up on my CD player... And I asked my wife if she would mind doing some "co-driver speak", hahaha! Of course, she looked at me like I was nuts. Twice I've been out in the car geocaching and hit rough dirt road sections and really wished I had been in the Jeep that day. Never go stuck or even close- thank god! - but the Jeep is just a better vehicle for geocaching. The fact that the fiberglass hardtop is basically radio-transparent is a big help too since it means the GPS works nearly as well inside the Jeep as outside. Quote Link to comment
+Morock & Miss C Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 While out caching, yesterday, we came up on an Ford Explorer high centered in the snow on an unplowed FS road. Lent him my fire shovel to use instead of his ski pole. Then we hiked off to place a cache. PS. We did pull him out before we left. Got to be prepared in the back country. No pictures. It wasn't that dramatic, normal for spring mountain country. I could hardly get the shovel out of his hands when we parted company. Quote Link to comment
+Sparky-Watts Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 While out caching, yesterday, we came up on an Ford Explorer high centered in the snow on an unplowed FS road. Lent him my fire shovel to use instead of his ski pole. Then we hiked off to place a cache. PS. We did pull him out before we left. Got to be prepared in the back country. No pictures. It wasn't that dramatic, normal for spring mountain country. I could hardly get the shovel out of his hands when we parted company. Oh, that's funny! "Here, dig yourself out, we're gonna go find a tupperware box full of McToys in the woods. We'll be back later." Sorry, don't know why that just strikes me as funny..... Quote Link to comment
+Corp Of Discovery Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Man, when this guy commited geocide he went all out! Quote Link to comment
+Sparky-Watts Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Man, when this guy commited geocide he went all out! Ya know, a good wax job could have prevented some of that rust....... Quote Link to comment
+Morock & Miss C Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Glad you liked it, Sparky. Please get it right, I was 'placing' a cache. That's more important than finding???? And, the guy was young (mid forties) with no kids or wife along. He even kissed the shovel before he gave it back to me. He was a very happy traveler to get rescued. I was ready to tow him out after ten minutes, he kept digging away, so I tried to stay busy. PS: I'm not known for my patience My cache is named 'Snow Drift' Quote Link to comment
+Morock & Miss C Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Now that I see what profession you're in, Sparky, I understand your concern with my rescue technique. Quote Link to comment
Captain Chaoss Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 ok, I did it !! The CHAOSS Geo-Jeep stuck. Course, it was only for about 8 minutes. 5 to shovel some mud, 2 to place some rocks, and 1 to put 'er in 4-wheel low and drive out. still, heres the pic ! Quote Link to comment
+KVOM Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 (edited) Before Geocaching, but this is our supply truck stuck in a river ford in western Tibet: You may need to right-click the icon to display! Edited April 19, 2004 by KVOM Quote Link to comment
+Two Geeks and a GPS Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 (edited) That was about a month ago in Michigan's upper peninsula. We were going for a snow caching weekend. Blizzard got to us first. I flipped it on the drivers side. Some snowmobilers helped us us right it but the engine was toast. I should get her back tomorrow. No tow trucks, no rental cars (area is really remote). Finally had to con some friends to make the 7 hour drive to rescue us. Good thing the bar was right across the highway from our hotel and the snowmobilers were on their way back to that hotel. I will never badmouth snowmobilers again! edit: for spelling Edited April 19, 2004 by Two Geeks and a GPS Quote Link to comment
+Two Geeks and a GPS Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 This should be a pinned topic! I love looking at the pictures of others mishaps. I can laugh cuz I've had them too. At least two others while caching. Only have pics of the last one. Quote Link to comment
Micqn Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 This is what happens when you launch over a hill and pop a Subaru Forester in the corner. Little Moab, Cedar Valley area, Utah We did get the cache though. Quote Link to comment
+magking1971 Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Why go around? Never did get stuck But I had to sell it last week My other cachmobile, but I am selling it also =( 350 v8 and four wheel drive to boot. Quote Link to comment
AJK Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 I never thought that I would join the ranks - not because I'm a superb off-roader (I've never done proper off-roading) , but rather there are few opportunities here in MA. However, on a trip to Tucson, AZ: (log for this cache) Soooo, I'm flying out of Tucson that day, and plan to get 10 more caches done before my flight. I get about 3 done, and start of for this one. The car is kitted out with the laptop running Streets and Trips, hooked up to the GPS for realtime positioning, and GSAK - the Palm has all the cache descriptions for when I'm out of the car. I have 5 gallons of water in the back. Driving along the dirt road in my Ford Expedition which, despite being a big car, has done well so far. There's a fork in the trail, with a sign pointing to new real estate - I don't take this one because it's probably (probably...) not the road. There's a pile of gravel and sand in the road. Ahh, what the heck, the car will get over it. Of course, it turns out that the pile of sand and gravel is to stop cars, which it did, very well. I completely beached the car. I couldn't even get out of the front doors. I could not believe that I had been that stupid. I try all wheel drive, 4 wheel drive high, 4 wheel drive low, rocks under the wheels, digging out some gravel, but the car is so well beached the wheels may well have been spinning in air. I finally get hold of AAA, and after much discussion of how to get to me (good job I had the GPS and streets and trips), Joe (the man) arrives. We laugh at my idiocy, and he gets the car unstuck. AAA pay for some on the costs - it only comes to $50 for me... I was lucky, no obvious damage to the car, and I still made my flight. Idiot, idiot..... Quote Link to comment
+ShadowAce Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 (edited) This was while going to be FTF on a cache..: (Gaby'sBMP As if that was not bad enough.. I had a long walk home.. a couple of weeks later the kids and I were going for a different cache and I pulled over to answer the phone then started backing up.. Off into the sand we go..: Lonesome Bush I now own a jeep! Edited May 6, 2004 by ShadowAce Quote Link to comment
+Team GPSaxophone Posted May 8, 2004 Share Posted May 8, 2004 check out this puppy! stuck on a different planet!! At least he;s not far from Geocaching supplies... Quote Link to comment
+Cache Viking Posted May 9, 2004 Share Posted May 9, 2004 Smurfy ... you are looking a little Gray there on the Red Planet. Quote Link to comment
+AmishHacker Posted June 7, 2004 Author Share Posted June 7, 2004 (edited) No posts in a while......are we all staying out of the ditches and mud?? and please post serious pics Edited June 7, 2004 by AmishHacker Quote Link to comment
+rusty_tlc Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 I did a five star terrain cache on a very tough off road trail this weekend. (We spotted two jeeps with broken rear axles.) The Land Cruisers all made it and I still don't have any stuck geocaching pictures, sorry. Maybe next time. Quote Link to comment
+Nazgul Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 [No posts in a while......are we all staying out of the ditches and mud?? Wow, I could barely read that font/color combo... But anyway where I am in California we'll be lucky to have mud again in October or November! Quote Link to comment
+Mud Puppy Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 Never been stuck caching, but I plan to place some caches this summer that anyone with a less equiped 4x4 better hike to instead of driving. Here's me having some fun When it comes to serious wheeling I get stuck bad enough to need a winch or a tug five or six times per year, but consider that some of the trails I do have NEVER been completed without winching. Quote Link to comment
+Team GPSaxophone Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 As if that was not bad enough.. I had a long walk home.. a couple of weeks later the kids and I were going for a different cache and I pulled over to answer the phone then started backing up.. Off into the sand we go..:Lonesome Bush I now own a jeep! I remember that one...although, why would you have pulled off the road? Quote Link to comment
+Two Geeks and a GPS Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 No posts in a while......are we all staying out of the ditches and mud?? The snow is gone from here! Quote Link to comment
+Two Geeks and a GPS Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 I do like this thread though! Quote Link to comment
+ShadowAce Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 As if that was not bad enough.. I had a long walk home.. a couple of weeks later the kids and I were going for a different cache and I pulled over to answer the phone then started backing up.. Off into the sand we go..:Lonesome Bush I now own a jeep! I remember that one...although, why would you have pulled off the road? Too answer the phone since cars were coming down the dirt road. Besides, re-read the cache, I was not the last person to get stuck there Quote Link to comment
+Divine Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Not quite stuck, but this happened recently in Austria, close to this cache, but not the same day we went to search for it: Glad it didn't hit the fan! Quote Link to comment
Fakk 2 Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Divine Posted on Jul 20 2004, 04:49 AM Not quite stuck, but this happened recently in Austria, close to this cache, but not the same day we went to search for it: <pic Removed> Glad it didn't hit the fan! Looks like something scared the poop out of the vehicle. Was it a tough hill? Quote Link to comment
+roveron Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 (edited) My signature says it all... Provided you're signed in, of course, so you can see it Edited July 22, 2004 by roveron Quote Link to comment
+Mud Puppy Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 If you have to get into soft sand or dirt lower your tire pressure to about 2/3 of what you would normally drive at. This will keep your tire on top better and reduce wheel spin. Just remember not to drive at highway speed until you fill the tires back up. Quote Link to comment
+roveron Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 SnipJust remember not to drive at highway speed until you fill <sic> the tires back up. This is very important to remember. One of the major reasons Ford had a problem with Firestone tires on the Explorers failing was Ford was recommending lower than proper inflation pressure (to counter SUV's being more likely to roll over). Low air pressure at highway speeds causes overheating and catastrophic failure of a tire. Quote Link to comment
+roveron Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 (edited) snipOn the highway in a snowstorm they think they’re invincible in their 4X4’s. All 4 wheel drive means is when you don’t have the right mind set getting stuck in a 4X4 mean your well and truly stuck Definately! I recall, back around '87 or so, a few years after SUV's were becoming really popular, I left VT one afternoon for a drive to NJ in my Land Rover just as one heckuva snowstorm was starting. It snowed like crazy the whole way (so bad I had to stop at road junctions and beat the snow off the signs to know which way to go). I saw more 4WD vehicles in ditches than any other (no, I wasn't one of them ) people thinking, of course, "I have 4WD, I'm invincible!" Not realizing it doesn't help squat when you apply the brakes. I've been off-roading since '72, you learn alot in that time. In my case mainly how stupid I can be. Edited July 22, 2004 by roveron Quote Link to comment
+Sparky-Watts Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 snipOn the highway in a snowstorm they think they’re invincible in their 4X4’s. All 4 wheel drive means is when you don’t have the right mind set getting stuck in a 4X4 mean your well and truly stuck Definately! I recall, back around '87 or so, a few years after SUV's were becoming really popular, I left VT one afternoon for a drive to NJ in my Land Rover just as one heckuva snowstorm was starting. It snowed like crazy the whole way (so bad I had to stop at road junctions and beat the snow off the signs to know which way to go). I saw more 4WD vehicles in ditches than any other (no, I wasn't one of them ) people thinking, of course, "I have 4WD, I'm invincible!" Not realizing it doesn't help squat when you apply the brakes. I've been off-roading since '72, you learn alot in that time. In my case mainly how stupid I can be. Yup! When I worked as a paramedic, we saw more SUV's in the ditches upside down than any other vehicle. My call area was a rural area between two major cities, about 20 miles from each. We figured all the bad drivers took themselves out before they ever got out of the city, and all the calls we had were people in SUV's that thought they were invincible....... Quote Link to comment
+roveron Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 Not sure if this counts as "stuck". Definately counts as not watching your spotter. For you Jeepers Quote Link to comment
+Sparky-Watts Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 Not sure if this counts as "stuck". Definately counts as not watching your spotter.For you Jeepers Dead link. Very, very dead link! Quote Link to comment
+TeamK-9 Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 My theory is that SUV's just give people a feeling of safety allowing them to do even stupider and more dangerous things than they'd normally do... Quote Link to comment
+Sparky-Watts Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 My theory is that SUV's just give people a feeling of safety allowing them to do even stupider and more dangerous things than they'd normally do... Yeah, I know. Wish you'd reminded me of that before I tried to rob that bank in my Jeep! Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 My theory is that SUV's just give people a feeling of safety allowing them to do even stupider and more dangerous things than they'd normally do... Interesting theory... Of course, there are many cases when people have survived accidents in SUVs that would not have been survivable in a car. Greater mass and a strong frame does have its benefits. Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 Not sure if this counts as "stuck". Definately counts as not watching your spotter.For you Jeepers Here's a live link. What a maroon. Quote Link to comment
+Sparky-Watts Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 Not sure if this counts as "stuck". Definately counts as not watching your spotter.For you Jeepers Here's a live link. What a maroon. Nope. Takes me to the forum board the link is posted on, but that link still gets me to the same "Error 404" message. Quote Link to comment
CoyoteRed Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 Amateurs! Try here. ...for a while anyway... Quote Link to comment
+Mud Puppy Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 Lot more going on than a driver not watching the spotter. The driver (Tracey) was not used to driving on sandstone, so the idea of being able to driver herself over backwards was not even in her head. She lost sight of the spotter just as he started directing her to go to the passenger side. With her viual clues gone and no audibles she had no idea she was doing it wrong, and her instincts were telling her to keep moving because stopping on something that steep is dangerous on most terrain . Part of the problem was not knowing what to expect on the obstical, part of the problem was relying too much on the spotter instead of the feel of her rig, part of the problem was the spotter being in a position that made the driver lose sight of him if the wrong line was chosen, and part of it was just bad luck. Making occasional mistakes is part of progressing as a driver, you just hope the mistake doesn't cost you too much. BTW the Jeep was pulled back on it's wheels and then it finished the trail. Damage was mainly cosmetic. Quote Link to comment
+Sparky-Watts Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 Amateurs! Try here. ...for a while anyway... Nope. I don't have a program to read that! Quote Link to comment
+roveron Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 (edited) Not sure if this counts as "stuck". Definately counts as not watching your spotter.For you Jeepers Dead link. Very, very dead link! LOL Yup, very dead link indeed. Between the time I posted, and you checked, they removed their archives (I always check links I post because I know how frustrating dead ones are). QUOTE (Chris S.) Lot more going on than a driver not watching the spotter. The driver (Tracey) was not used to driving on sandstone, so the idea of being able to driver herself over backwards was not even in her head. If that's the case, then, since she was in a group of experienced people (I hope) someone certainly failed her in not reviewing the risks with her before her attempt. But I watch people even driving around Atlanta and can tell that your average driver hasn't a clue about physics in the real world. Put them in a place where it's even more important to understand it and you have an accident waiting to happen. She lost sight of the spotter just as he started directing her to go to the passenger side. Of course it's hard to tell for sure from the video angle, but it sure looks like he started indicating right well before she lost sight of him. Then again, I wasn't there. snip Part of the problem was not knowing what to expect on the obstical, part of the problem was relying too much on the spotter instead of the feel of her rig, part of the problem was the spotter being in a position that made the driver lose sight of him if the wrong line was chosen, and part of it was just bad luck. snip Feel is only gained by experience (as you imply) but when you can't see the nuanaces of where you're tracking, you must rely on your spotter (as I'm sure you know). I too have had bad spotters. They have to know where your wheels need to be, but also anticipate the implications of what will happen if you go off track. Sometimes the obvious placement isn't actually the best. If I feel a spotter isn't aware of those things, I stop before I get in trouble, and explain the situation to them. Usually they appreciate it. BTW the Jeep was pulled back on it's wheels and then it finished the trail. Damage was mainly cosmetic Yeah, I thought the damage was most likely cosmetic. I rolled one of my Land Rovers on an icy back road one winter in VT and was only two hours late for work (decided to go back home first and replace a broken window and check all the fluids). Just goes to show that even the "experienced" can get into trouble. (also the importance of a roll cage in some places Anyway, you pays your money and you takes your chances. Cheers. Edited July 27, 2004 by roveron Quote Link to comment
Taxman003 Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Amateurs! Try here. ...for a while anyway... This one worked!!! Mike Quote Link to comment
shadango Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 (edited) My theory is that SUV's just give people a feeling of safety allowing them to do even stupider and more dangerous things than they'd normally do... If you ever had someone rear-end you or otherwise crash into you while driving an SUV you would change your theory. True, some folks are just thick......and SUVs are NOT sports cars and cant be driven like sprots cars.....But if driven as intended a crash in an SUV is much safer than in a econobox. Edited July 27, 2004 by shadango Quote Link to comment
+roveron Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 My theory is that SUV's just give people a feeling of safety allowing them to do even stupider and more dangerous things than they'd normally do... Interesting theory... Of course, there are many cases when people have survived accidents in SUVs that would not have been survivable in a car. Greater mass and a strong frame does have its benefits. You mean like in the Ford Exploder? Quote Link to comment
CoyoteRed Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Two points to make here. One is a person typically drives by the seat of their pants. I watched a show on PBS/Discovery/TLC/whichever about driver safety. A basic underlaying premise is people will drive to a certain comfort level. The safer you make a road, the faster they will drive. The more confidence you give a driver in their safety, the more chances they will take. It's not just the car, it's the perception. Basically, driver safety is a perception. A lot of people feel safer in a larger car not knowing a truck with a higher center of gravity is more dangerous. Personally, I'd say if you want to feel more confident in a vehicle concentrate on your driving, continually be aware of those around you outside your vehicle, and drive to the conditions 12 seconds in front of you. Then you'll be safer. I can't fathom the reason people buy these huge SUVs to tote kids around when a mini van is much more convenient and safer. I laugh at these little women, or anyone for that matter, who have to take 2 or 3 pull ups to get their SUV into a parking space. I see a lot of SUVs hugging the right of their lane not knowing just how big their vehicle is. The missus and I laugh, point, and say "Too much vehicle for them!" Second point. Yes, the occupants of the larger vehicle is typical less likely to get injured, but let's follow this logic out. A semi truck is larger than any SUV. Is that the next step? If this is the real reason, why not buy a full-sized van? They are larger. Want to have a better view of the road? Again, a full-sized van. Need the extra capacity? Full-sized van. Amenities? Full-sized van. Passenger door on a driver's side. Well, you got me there. If that's the only reason to buy a SUV over a van, then that's a poor choice. Heck, a mini van is a much better choice for most people than any larger SUV. Face it, I'd say most people who drive an SUV do so because it is the "in thing" to do. One last point, for every person who buys a larger vehicle just to feel safer, you just made the little guy less safe. Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 You mean like in the Ford Exploder? It was more of a blanket statement, but specifically I was referring to my grand cherokee. Quote Link to comment
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