+Team Rex Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 What is the general consensus here on placing a cache in a park that charges an admission fee? The place I am thinking of is an estate that has been turned into a museum with lots of neat places to have a virtual multi cache on the grounds however they do charge and entry fee to the grounds. Is this acceptable or is it giving them free advertising and not something Jeremy would appreciate? Quote Link to comment
Best_Buddies Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 I would have no problem with it, PROVIDED that you clearly state in the cache description that an entrace fee is required. Then, people have a choice on whether or not to seek it. Quote Link to comment
+Hawk-eye Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 quote:Originally posted by harrkev: I would have no problem with it, PROVIDED that you clearly state in the cache description that an entrace fee is required. Then, people have a choice on whether or not to seek it. That would be the way to do it ... just make sure it's stated on the page or there's a link to the park's webpage for more info ... Quote Link to comment
Cachemere Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 quote:Originally posted by harrkev: I would have no problem with it, PROVIDED that you clearly state in the cache description that an entrace fee is required. Ditto! Quote Link to comment
Cachemere Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 quote:Originally posted by harrkev: I would have no problem with it, PROVIDED that you clearly state in the cache description that an entrace fee is required. Ditto! Quote Link to comment
+Web-ling Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 I have no problem with entrance fees, as long as they're mentioned in the cache description. I've placed a multi-cache in the Fort Worth Zoo. which requires an entrance fee. I placed a link in the cache description to the zoo site, so the cacher can look up admission fees, hours of operation, etc. All of the state parks in Texas have entrance fees. If we eliminated these, we'd eliminate an awful lot of prime cache locations. I don't think a cache in a state park, public zoo, or local museum constitute commercialism. Commercialism would be more like a cache at the local Starbucks or McDonalds, or a cache container with "This cache sponsored by Joe's Diner" plastered all over it. Quote Link to comment
+Sea_Dog Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 I have no problem with caches in parks that require an entry fees. I don't feel you have to say there's a fee in the cache description. If you do your homework before you head out, you'll know about the fee in advance. Quote Link to comment
+Hawk-eye Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Sea_Dog:... If you do your homework before you head out, you'll know about the fee in advance. Not necessarily ... while true when you are close by a cache ... but if it's an area further away ... there might not be an easy or quick way to find this information ... But so far every cache I been too that has this ... the cacher places that information in the description. Another good thing is to post hours ... that can help a cacher plan his trip. Nothing worst than to hit a cache only to find out the park closed an hour earlier. Had you know ... you could have changed your route. I know this is a problem in NC ... a lot of small community parks don't have anything but the sign on their gate to provide this info. No web page, no number to call ... Quote Link to comment
Godzirra Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Team Rex: What is the general consensus here on placing a cache in a park that charges an admission fee? The place I am thinking of is an estate that has been turned into a museum with lots of neat places to have a virtual multi cache on the grounds however they do charge and entry fee to the grounds. Is this acceptable or is it giving them free advertising and not something Jeremy would appreciate? NO! We can't have any of this stuff! THAT IS PAY TO PLAY!!!! What, are you gonna do a MOC next?Criminey people! Why do we have to make it commercial! Jeremy, you are behind this! ARE YOU GETTING KICKBACKS? Sheesh! What the heck! (Please note: the previous paragraph was brought to you by someone trying to understand the anger of those against MOC's and membership fees.) Godzirra (roar) Quote Link to comment
Godzirra Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Team Rex: What is the general consensus here on placing a cache in a park that charges an admission fee? The place I am thinking of is an estate that has been turned into a museum with lots of neat places to have a virtual multi cache on the grounds however they do charge and entry fee to the grounds. Is this acceptable or is it giving them free advertising and not something Jeremy would appreciate? NO! We can't have any of this stuff! THAT IS PAY TO PLAY!!!! What, are you gonna do a MOC next?Criminey people! Why do we have to make it commercial! Jeremy, you are behind this! ARE YOU GETTING KICKBACKS? Sheesh! What the heck! (Please note: the previous paragraph was brought to you by someone trying to understand the anger of those against MOC's and membership fees.) Godzirra (roar) Quote Link to comment
+Opus P Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Team Rex:What is the general consensus here on placing a cache in a park that charges an admission fee? Here's a group of caches that p***ed me off earlier today: These three caches are available only if you are staying in one particularly dismal KOA pavement predominant campground. I used to live in that area and was looking for some ammo to try to entice friends in that area to try this thing, and I come across this. Is this sort of thing common? Any cachers in Michigan that know about this situation? That area has huge tracts of available park land that would be excellent caching places, and this doofus puts all the caches in a KOA. Within one mile of that KOA there's a wonderful, public, park with trails, etc. that would be great. Ok, sorry, [rant-off] Back to your regularly scheduled Penguin. =-=-=-=-=-= Opus P Crathvaf Ehyr Visit my Buddhist Reading Room. Quote Link to comment
+Bluespreacher Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Opus P: Here's a group of caches that p***ed me off earlier today: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest_cache.asp?zip=48040&dist=8&submit1=Submit ...snip... Ok, sorry, [rant-off] Back to your regularly scheduled Penguin. =-=-=-=-=-= Opus P Crathvaf Ehyr http://www.buildapage.com/images/flyingopus.gif Visit my http://www.buddhistreading.com. Those *are * kinda lame. I did note though, that only one person has logged a visit since last Summer. Not too popular! I guess if you were pavement camping it might be fun to have a cache right outside the 'ol RV, but for everybody else what's the point? Especially when there are so many other good places nearby. Bluespreacher Quote Link to comment
+clatmandu Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Opus P: quote:Originally posted by Team Rex:What is the general consensus here on placing a cache in a park that charges an admission fee? Here's a group of caches that p***ed me off earlier today: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest_cache.asp?zip=48040&dist=8&submit1=Submit are available only if you are staying in one particularly dismal KOA pavement predominant campground. I used to live in that area and was looking for some ammo to try to entice friends in that area to try this thing, and I come across this. Is this sort of thing common? Any cachers in Michigan that know about this situation? That area has huge tracts of available park land that would be excellent caching places, and this doofus puts all the caches in a KOA. Within one mile of that KOA there's a wonderful, public, park with trails, etc. that would be great. Ok, sorry, [rant-off] Back to your regularly scheduled Penguin. =-=-=-=-=-= Opus P Crathvaf Ehyr http://www.buildapage.com/images/flyingopus.gif Visit my http://www.buddhistreading.com. I wish I could get those caches off my unfound screen. I have no intention of looking for them. Most of his others were quite lame, thus I quit looking for them. His only good one is burried on a beach where wave action hides digging activity. Quote Link to comment
+Macro Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 Just let me know up front and I am fine with it. A good cache spot is a good cache spot...and if it costs me a few bucks so be it. Quote Link to comment
kablooey Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Sea_Dog:I don't feel you have to say there's a fee in the cache description. If you do your homework before you head out, you'll know about the fee in advance. I don't think it's fair to require that level of homework. If you're caching on the road via cellphone, you don't have access to all the fancy maps and internet research. If the cache hider doesn't mention a fee, it's somewhat reasonable to assume there's some way to get into the park without paying. Quote Link to comment
+Opus P Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 quote:Originally posted by clatmandu: His only good one is buried on a beach where wave action hides digging activity. Cool. Where is that one? I'm originally from Port Huron and still have some friends in that area that I would like to direct towards a good cache to hunt down. Do you know the cache number? =-=-=-=-=-= Opus P Crathvaf Ehyr Visit my Buddhist Reading Room. Quote Link to comment
+TTracker Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 Forget it Opus P. I found that site last summer and it wasn't much. Also its in a park with an entry fee. I've found a number of this guys caches and they were mostly on the same level. One of them only contained a plastic carrot and no log book. Quote Link to comment
BassoonPilot Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 I agree that it's alright to place a cache in an area with an entrance fee if that fact is disclosed in the cache description. I presume the cache owner has determined if placing the cache is permissable. I would also suggest that when placing a cache in an area that charges a fee, the cache owner chooses a location that will be accessible. During one of my recent outings, the farthest cache from home was in such a park, and the cache owner had neglected to mention the $5 entrance fee. Oh well, I paid the fee and entered the park. Unfortunately, the cache was placed in the area of greatest visitor activity. Even though I had a really good idea where the cache was located, the crowds never thinned and there was never an opportunity to attempt to snag it. Disappointing. Quote Link to comment
+Team Rex Posted March 15, 2002 Author Share Posted March 15, 2002 Thanks for all your responses. We will head down to the site I have in mind and see if it's going to be a good one or not. I appreciate the information about the lame ones. It's easy to think a place is great and forget to think about what might be bad about it. Opus - I was scouting out a potential site near my work for a traditional cache last night and got lost in a neighborhood I've never visited. I ran across a house with a huge Opus painted on the garage door. Gotta take my husband by there today one of his nicks is Bill the Cat. Chris Quote Link to comment
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