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US Navy 21 and a half years 1985 through 2006!

USS Sellers (DDG-11) Charleston SC Two Med Cruises

Nuclear Field A School Staff Orlando Fl

Naval Air Station Keflavik Iceland

USS Paul Hamilton (DDG-60) Pearl Harbor HI part of the Commissioning crew and maiden voyage

Joint Task Force Full Accounting, Camp HM Smith HI, recovering MIA/POW remains from SE Asia

USS Austin (LPD-4) Norfolk, VA Two deployments to the Gulf! Operation Iraqi Freedom, Operation Enduring Freedom

Naval Special Warfare Group Two Logistics and Support Unit, Supply support for East Coast Navy SEALS

 

Retired and currently a Navy Contractor working for Naval Special Warfare Group Two

:P

Proud to have served and just as proud of those who served before, during and after me!!

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How on earth does this thread manage to keep rearing its off-topic head, anyway? Hey, I'm all for those that serve our country as I did, but what does that have to do with geocaching? Why wasn't this thread moved to OT years ago, and how/why do people still manage to scrounge it up from the depths? Good grief! There are military forums if that's what you want to discuss. We are here to talk about geocaching, OK? When will a moderator finally decide to move this? :rolleyes:

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How on earth does this thread manage to keep rearing its off-topic head, anyway? Hey, I'm all for those that serve our country as I did, but what does that have to do with geocaching? Why wasn't this thread moved to OT years ago, and how/why do people still manage to scrounge it up from the depths? Good grief! There are military forums if that's what you want to discuss. We are here to talk about geocaching, OK? When will a moderator finally decide to move this? ;)

 

It gets more much more coverage here.

 

Really, why does it bother you?

 

You don't have to reply to every thread, you know. :rolleyes:

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I have 11 years in so far, with a 4 year break in service in the middle of all that. If I would have stayed in the whole time I'd be at 15 (woulda coulda shoulda). Did my enlisted time as a 14S (Avenger Crewmember) in the ADA. Now I am an ADA Warrant.

 

1994 - 1995 Korea

1995 - 1998 82nd Airborne Div. Ft. Bragg NC

1998 - 2002 Ohio Natl. Guard

2002 - 2006 out of the military

2006 - present back in the Guard in Ohio

 

Full time I am a Police Officer.

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How on earth does this thread manage to keep rearing its off-topic head, anyway? Hey, I'm all for those that serve our country as I did, but what does that have to do with geocaching? Why wasn't this thread moved to OT years ago, and how/why do people still manage to scrounge it up from the depths? Good grief! There are military forums if that's what you want to discuss. We are here to talk about geocaching, OK? When will a moderator finally decide to move this? ;)

 

It gets more much more coverage here.

 

Really, why does it bother you?

 

You don't have to reply to every thread, you know. :rolleyes:

 

Oh snap!

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Came on active duty in 2001 to present as an OH-58D pilot. Have been stationed in the 101st, 1st INF DIV, and have returned to Fort Rucker for a break. Been deployed to Iraq (twice) and Afghanistan (just got home 4 months ago).

 

I didn't know there were so many military and veteran cachers.

 

Yeah, it has been quite an eye opener for a lot of people. I did not think we would have so many when I started this thread several years ago.

 

Mac

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Wow! Now that's a lot of military cachers. I served in the USAF as a Security Specialist from 1981 to 1993 with an official HD in 1995. I spent two years at RAF Bentwaters/Woodbridge, England, and the rest in Rome, NY. My oldest son who is starting to cache is in the USAF and serving in Iraq right now with a return date of this month. YEAH! I can't wait to get him back and take him caching again.

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I served from Jan 95- May 2001. US ARMY

Fort Knox Armor OSUT Basic training Jan 95- May 95

El Paso TX 3/3 ACR K troop Armor crewman May 95- Nov 95

Colorado Springs 3/3 ACR K troop Armor crewman Nov 95- Dec 97

Hohenfels Germany 1/4 Inf D Company OPFOR Armor crewman Jan 98- May 01

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How on earth does this thread manage to keep rearing its off-topic head, anyway? Hey, I'm all for those that serve our country as I did, but what does that have to do with geocaching? Why wasn't this thread moved to OT years ago, and how/why do people still manage to scrounge it up from the depths? Good grief! There are military forums if that's what you want to discuss. We are here to talk about geocaching, OK? When will a moderator finally decide to move this? :rolleyes:

 

It gets more much more coverage here.

 

Really, why does it bother you?

 

You don't have to reply to every thread, you know. :rolleyes:

 

Oh snap!

 

It bothers ME because double-standards aren't ok, and operating your business on them (Groundspeak?) is poor practice. OT is OT, simple enough. Or should I create a thread on "How you DIDN'T serve (aka which country did you run to avoid the Bush years)" just to even the balance. Something tells me that thread would be nuked in a heartbeat, since clearly balance is not a priority here, again, as this OLD OT thread keeps testifying to.

 

As you say in the oh-so trite and abused colloquialism: Oh snap!

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Actually, your post is off topic within this thread. So, what now?

 

Mac

 

How on earth does this thread manage to keep rearing its off-topic head, anyway? Hey, I'm all for those that serve our country as I did, but what does that have to do with geocaching? Why wasn't this thread moved to OT years ago, and how/why do people still manage to scrounge it up from the depths? Good grief! There are military forums if that's what you want to discuss. We are here to talk about geocaching, OK? When will a moderator finally decide to move this? :D

 

It gets more much more coverage here.

 

Really, why does it bother you?

 

You don't have to reply to every thread, you know. :laughing:

 

Oh snap!

 

It bothers ME because double-standards aren't ok, and operating your business on them (Groundspeak?) is poor practice. OT is OT, simple enough. Or should I create a thread on "How you DIDN'T serve (aka which country did you run to avoid the Bush years)" just to even the balance. Something tells me that thread would be nuked in a heartbeat, since clearly balance is not a priority here, again, as this OLD OT thread keeps testifying to.

 

As you say in the oh-so trite and abused colloquialism: Oh snap!

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From Wikipedia: "The GPS System was created and realized by the American Department of Defense (DOD) and was originally based on and run with 24 satellites. It was established in 1973 to reduce the large number of navigation aids and to overcome the limitations of previous navigation systems."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System

 

Many of the posters to this thread served in the Department of Defense which created and maintains the precious satellites we all use to geocache. I wonder how many of the men and women that posted here contributed to the Global Positioning System. So yeah, I think it's directly related to geocaching. If anyone has a chip on the shoulder about the US Military or any of the previous Presidents, that to me would be considered off topic. So the next time you post that smiley or use your turn by turn car navigation, you can thank a veteran.

 

Just my .02. Instead of "oh snap", I think I'll go with "zing".

 

 

 

Actually, your post is off topic within this thread. So, what now?

 

Mac

 

How on earth does this thread manage to keep rearing its off-topic head, anyway? Hey, I'm all for those that serve our country as I did, but what does that have to do with geocaching? Why wasn't this thread moved to OT years ago, and how/why do people still manage to scrounge it up from the depths? Good grief! There are military forums if that's what you want to discuss. We are here to talk about geocaching, OK? When will a moderator finally decide to move this? :D

 

It gets more much more coverage here.

 

Really, why does it bother you?

 

You don't have to reply to every thread, you know. :rolleyes:

 

Oh snap!

 

It bothers ME because double-standards aren't ok, and operating your business on them (Groundspeak?) is poor practice. OT is OT, simple enough. Or should I create a thread on "How you DIDN'T serve (aka which country did you run to avoid the Bush years)" just to even the balance. Something tells me that thread would be nuked in a heartbeat, since clearly balance is not a priority here, again, as this OLD OT thread keeps testifying to.

 

As you say in the oh-so trite and abused colloquialism: Oh snap!

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Very well put, and I think I may reflect how may veterans feel when I say, we were honored to serve.

 

Mac

 

Thanks to all the vets who have posted here, for your service to our country, which has allowed us to remain free and do what we want, like geocaching!!!

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Served 4 and 1/2 years in the US Navy from 1998-2002. If you know what IYAOYAS is then you know what I did.

Served:

Naval Station Great lakes for Boot Camp.

Naval Air Station Pensacola, FL for A-School

Naval Air Station Virginia Beach, Va attached to VF-101 Grim Reapers

Naval Air Station Atsugi, Japan attached to VFA-195 dadgum Busters

Floated on the USS Kitty Hawk from Japan.

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Served 4 and 1/2 years in the US Navy from 1998-2002. If you know what IYAOYAS is then you know what I did.

Served:

Naval Station Great lakes for Boot Camp.

Naval Air Station Pensacola, FL for A-School

Naval Air Station Virginia Beach, Va attached to VF-101 Grim Reapers

Naval Air Station Atsugi, Japan attached to VFA-195 dadgum Busters

Floated on the USS Kitty Hawk from Japan.

 

I sure loved Pensacola, one of the nicest places to be stationed if you have to be anywhere, lol.

 

Mac

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Just separated in February after 11 years in the USAF.

1999 - 2004 Gunter Annex, Maxwell AFB, AL

2004 - 2006 NATO Programming Centre, Glons, Belgium

2006 - 2008 AF ISR Agency, Lackland AFB, TX

2008 - 2009 FOB Finley-Shields, Nangarhar Province, Afghanistan

2008 - 2010 AF ISR Agency, Lackland AFB, TX

 

A few other shorter trips were mixed in through the whole span. I'm already thinking about getting back in.

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It is about geocachers who served.

What surprises me is that I haven't seen any replies from non US caching vets. No vets from Canada or the Ukraine or Turkey cache? Or have I just missed those posts. I admit I have not been reading every post.

Yeah, and "What's on YOUR Bucket List?" (currently at the top of the OT forum) is about what is on geocacher's bucket lists.

Seeing you get a more stylish pair of glasses, four eyes. :(
Yer Yellow, Tennis Ball!

Hey! Tennis balls have more hair.

Then, how come everyone around you has the blues? Huh? (same color as a particular bow that I worship, come to think of it)

 

You know, I'm not sure. I shower at least twice a week. I use my deodorant regularly. You think I need be concerned?

Not as long as you don't smell like a hobo. :) Edited by knowschad
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US Peace Corps - Nepal 1992 to 1994

 

That is really neat. I wish more folks who performed service like that would post about it. I find it very interesting.

 

Mac

 

I was thinking of asking who else is a PCV in the off-topic zone...since you brought it up, maybe I will :( thanks

(actually decided to ask in general topics and ask if anyone geocached while serving)

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US Peace Corps - Nepal 1992 to 1994

 

That is really neat. I wish more folks who performed service like that would post about it. I find it very interesting.

 

Mac

 

I was thinking of asking who else is a PCV in the off-topic zone...since you brought it up, maybe I will :( thanks

(actually decided to ask in general topics and ask if anyone geocached while serving)

 

To be honest, I have a hard time keeping this thread up in here, and it was grandfathered in years ago, lol. You'd probably be safer to start any new one like this in the off-topic, but I'd go with your gut. Best of luck. I'd love to hear stories about that particular brand of service, I don't think people know as much about it as they would like to.

 

Mac

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From Wikipedia: "The GPS System was created and realized by the American Department of Defense (DOD) and was originally based on and run with 24 satellites. It was established in 1973 to reduce the large number of navigation aids and to overcome the limitations of previous navigation systems."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System

 

Many of the posters to this thread served in the Department of Defense which created and maintains the precious satellites we all use to geocache. I wonder how many of the men and women that posted here contributed to the Global Positioning System. So yeah, I think it's directly related to geocaching. If anyone has a chip on the shoulder about the US Military or any of the previous Presidents, that to me would be considered off topic. So the next time you post that smiley or use your turn by turn car navigation, you can thank a veteran.

 

Just my .02. Instead of "oh snap", I think I'll go with "zing".

 

I'll gladly thank a veteran for the sacrifices they made doing their job but I don't think that I should be "thanking a veteran" every time I use my Nuvi just because the satellites were developed primarily for military use. There is an association with any standing or former member of the US military and the GPS system but there is not a direct relation. Jimmy down the road that signed up for service last week for infantry is not directly responsible for the creation, maintenance, invention, implementation or financial backing that made the GPS system possible or keep them in orbit.

 

You've got the horse in front of the cart.

 

This thread is not directly related to geocaching. Why is it still here? Because it is old and because one single forum member keeps bumping it up to the top on a regular schedule. Let's not kid ourselves.

 

 

Last minute edit: While we are thanking folks (and quoting Wikipedia articles), why not thank some of those that pushed forward the initiative to let everyday civilians get their hands on the technology?

 

"In 1996, recognizing the importance of GPS to civilian users as well as military users, U.S. President Bill Clinton issued a policy directive declaring GPS to be a dual-use system and establishing an Inter-agency GPS Executive Board to manage it as a national asset.

 

In 1998, U.S. Vice President Al Gore announced plans to upgrade GPS with two new civilian signals for enhanced user accuracy and reliability, particularly with respect to aviation safety and in 2000 the U.S. Congress authorized the effort, referring to it as GPS III. "

 

This, by no means, should be seen as encouragement for a "Democrats that Geocache" thread.

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From Wikipedia: "The GPS System was created and realized by the American Department of Defense (DOD) and was originally based on and run with 24 satellites. It was established in 1973 to reduce the large number of navigation aids and to overcome the limitations of previous navigation systems."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System

 

Many of the posters to this thread served in the Department of Defense which created and maintains the precious satellites we all use to geocache. I wonder how many of the men and women that posted here contributed to the Global Positioning System. So yeah, I think it's directly related to geocaching. If anyone has a chip on the shoulder about the US Military or any of the previous Presidents, that to me would be considered off topic. So the next time you post that smiley or use your turn by turn car navigation, you can thank a veteran.

 

Just my .02. Instead of "oh snap", I think I'll go with "zing".

 

I'll gladly thank a veteran for the sacrifices they made doing their job but I don't think that I should be "thanking a veteran" every time I use my Nuvi just because the satellites were developed primarily for military use. There is an association with any standing or former member of the US military and the GPS system but there is not a direct relation. Jimmy down the road that signed up for service last week for infantry is not directly responsible for the creation, maintenance, invention, implementation or financial backing that made the GPS system possible or keep them in orbit.

 

You've got the horse in front of the cart.

 

This thread is not directly related to geocaching. Why is it still here? Because it is old and becuase one single forum member keeps bumping it up to the top on a regular schedule. Let's not kid ourselves.

 

Thanks for saying what needed to be said.

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My heroes are the U.S. military, past and present. If we can discuss something in the U.S., thank a serviceman.

 

I was in the Marine Corps from 1981 to 1987. My M.O.S. was 2512 (communications). I spent approximately the last 3 years of my enlistment in the Admin department. We were an artillery battery and was E5 when I decided not to reenlist due to family commitments at the time. Looking back I sure wish I'd have put in my 20.

 

I'm thankful this thread has survived since 2003. I'd have never found it in off-topic. Thanks Groundspeak for keeping it in the Topics section. Everyone has great stories and I have enjoyed reading them tonight.

 

I know the question has been asked why nobody from other countries have chimed in. I've been in the United States since 1969, moved here from Canada and was a Canadian citizen when I enlisted in the Marines. Does that sort of count? :( Once the citizenship laws changed, I was naturalized U.S. citizen in 1993.

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U.S Army

June 1977 - Aug 1981

24L Improved Hawk Launcher Mechanical/Electrical Systems Repairman

Stationed in:

Redstone Arsenal, AL

Homestead AFB, FL

Camp Humphreys, Korea

Ft Riley, KS

 

Aug 1981 - Jan 1986

25L AN/TSQ-73 (Missile Minder) Operator/Repairman

Stationed in:

Ft. Bliss, TX

Ft. Bragg, NC

 

Got out as a SGT E5.

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From Wikipedia: "The GPS System was created and realized by the American Department of Defense (DOD) and was originally based on and run with 24 satellites. It was established in 1973 to reduce the large number of navigation aids and to overcome the limitations of previous navigation systems."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System

 

Many of the posters to this thread served in the Department of Defense which created and maintains the precious satellites we all use to geocache. I wonder how many of the men and women that posted here contributed to the Global Positioning System. So yeah, I think it's directly related to geocaching. If anyone has a chip on the shoulder about the US Military or any of the previous Presidents, that to me would be considered off topic. So the next time you post that smiley or use your turn by turn car navigation, you can thank a veteran.

 

Just my .02. Instead of "oh snap", I think I'll go with "zing".

 

I'll gladly thank a veteran for the sacrifices they made doing their job but I don't think that I should be "thanking a veteran" every time I use my Nuvi just because the satellites were developed primarily for military use. There is an association with any standing or former member of the US military and the GPS system but there is not a direct relation. Jimmy down the road that signed up for service last week for infantry is not directly responsible for the creation, maintenance, invention, implementation or financial backing that made the GPS system possible or keep them in orbit.

 

You've got the horse in front of the cart.

 

This thread is not directly related to geocaching. Why is it still here? Because it is old and because one single forum member keeps bumping it up to the top on a regular schedule. Let's not kid ourselves.

 

 

Last minute edit: While we are thanking folks (and quoting Wikipedia articles), why not thank some of those that pushed forward the initiative to let everyday civilians get their hands on the technology?

 

"In 1996, recognizing the importance of GPS to civilian users as well as military users, U.S. President Bill Clinton issued a policy directive declaring GPS to be a dual-use system and establishing an Inter-agency GPS Executive Board to manage it as a national asset.

 

In 1998, U.S. Vice President Al Gore announced plans to upgrade GPS with two new civilian signals for enhanced user accuracy and reliability, particularly with respect to aviation safety and in 2000 the U.S. Congress authorized the effort, referring to it as GPS III. "

 

This, by no means, should be seen as encouragement for a "Democrats that Geocache" thread.

I'd like to propose a compromise to the PTB. Create a new forum section for this post and others like it (like the recent "Peace Corps" spin-off. Having nothing to do with geocaching per se, it really is Off-Topic, yet it can't be moved to the Off-Topic forum where non-PMs can't see it or post to it. A separate forum would be a very workable solution. Please consider this.
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From Wikipedia: "The GPS System was created and realized by the American Department of Defense (DOD) and was originally based on and run with 24 satellites. It was established in 1973 to reduce the large number of navigation aids and to overcome the limitations of previous navigation systems."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System

 

Many of the posters to this thread served in the Department of Defense which created and maintains the precious satellites we all use to geocache. I wonder how many of the men and women that posted here contributed to the Global Positioning System. So yeah, I think it's directly related to geocaching. If anyone has a chip on the shoulder about the US Military or any of the previous Presidents, that to me would be considered off topic. So the next time you post that smiley or use your turn by turn car navigation, you can thank a veteran.

 

Just my .02. Instead of "oh snap", I think I'll go with "zing".

 

I'll gladly thank a veteran for the sacrifices they made doing their job but I don't think that I should be "thanking a veteran" every time I use my Nuvi just because the satellites were developed primarily for military use. There is an association with any standing or former member of the US military and the GPS system but there is not a direct relation. Jimmy down the road that signed up for service last week for infantry is not directly responsible for the creation, maintenance, invention, implementation or financial backing that made the GPS system possible or keep them in orbit.

 

You've got the horse in front of the cart.

 

This thread is not directly related to geocaching. Why is it still here? Because it is old and becuase one single forum member keeps bumping it up to the top on a regular schedule. Let's not kid ourselves.

 

Thanks for saying what needed to be said.

 

As is so common around here. Don't want to read this thread then hey, don't read it.

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As is so common around here. Don't want to read this thread then hey, don't read it.

Threads get closed or moved for being off topic all the time here. Yet this one keeps popping up, and has been her for years. It feels unpatriotic to speak up against its existence here, but why should it... this has no more to do with geocaching than if someone started a thread about "What is your occupation?". Sure, you could ignore that one, too. And the "What is YOUR favorite color" thread. Ad infinitum. What I just proposed is a perfect solution, it seems to me. The thread can continue, it will be an area to hosue similar off-topic threads, and can be made available to all members, not just the PMs. Those that want to contribute can bump the thread as many times a day as they want to without bothering a sole.

 

By the way... I served.

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To be honest, I have a hard time keeping this thread up in here, and it was grandfathered in years ago....

 

Mac

 

How many of those possible threads would predate the OT thread?

 

And I also served.

If you're asking me, I don't know, and I really don't care. This thread IS off-topic, grandfathered or not, and I have proposed a way to keep it not only alive, but MUCH more visible than it would be here, if it weren't for Mac's bumping it. There is no reason (or way) to "bump" a forum section... it is always there for anyone that is interested.

 

BTW :lol: , How did YOU serve? :blink:

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As is so common around here. Don't want to read this thread then hey, don't read it.

Threads get closed or moved for being off topic all the time here. Yet this one keeps popping up, and has been her for years. It feels unpatriotic to speak up against its existence here, but why should it... this has no more to do with geocaching than if someone started a thread about "What is your occupation?". Sure, you could ignore that one, too. And the "What is YOUR favorite color" thread. Ad infinitum. What I just proposed is a perfect solution, it seems to me. The thread can continue, it will be an area to House similar off-topic threads, and can be made available to all members, not just the PMs. Those that want to contribute can bump the thread as many times a day as they want to without bothering a sole.

 

By the way... I served.

 

Exactly. It's not about political views or lack of patriotism- it's a desire to see the forum management distributed evenly across all the members of the forum.

 

My suggestion- move it to OT and open OT to all members regardless of PM status.

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US Peace Corps - Nepal 1992 to 1994

 

That is really neat. I wish more folks who performed service like that would post about it. I find it very interesting.

 

Mac

 

I was thinking of asking who else is a PCV in the off-topic zone...since you brought it up, maybe I will :( thanks

(actually decided to ask in general topics and ask if anyone geocached while serving)

 

To be honest, I have a hard time keeping this thread up in here, and it was grandfathered in years ago, lol. You'd probably be safer to start any new one like this in the off-topic, but I'd go with your gut. Best of luck. I'd love to hear stories about that particular brand of service, I don't think people know as much about it as they would like to.

 

Mac

 

As a servicemember, veteran and history buff, I have no problem with Peace Corps, AmeriCORP, and other federally recognized non-military service organization members posting in this thread. President Kennedy envisioned Peace Corps as a way for Americans to serve their country's objectives abroad but outside the military spectrum. Americorps was founded as a way for Americans to serve their country at home. They deserve to be thanked as much as I do.

 

As to moving the thread to OT- since OT is PM only, maybe we need an open OT and a PM OT.

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Let's drop the side discussion. This topic is "grandfathered". Those that are complaining know what the topic is about. Don't click on it. It is a single topic. You can easily avoid it. Your problem is solved.

 

I would also be against opening the Off Topic forum to everyone with every fiber of my being. It would become the wild west and would be totally shut down probably rather quickly. If you support the site, Off Topic is a little bitty perk for you if you want to use it.

 

Time to get back on topic please.

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Grandpa, U.S Army, Served WW II, Dad 25 yrs Air Force, I grew up a Military Brat, Enlisted US Army Oct 92, First Gulf War Vet, 13B11, Field artillery, Air assault, Honorable discharge July 2000, Brother-in-law, serving U.S Navy currently.

 

To our men and women serving, and retired THANK-YOU! To our many men and women serving currently, may they return safe and again THANK-YOU! , and as a comrade /Vet , a HUGE THANK-YOU, God Bless the troops and the US!

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served 5 long years of my young right out of high school life in the good old us active duty army,

spent my second year in s. korea, and the last 3 in augusta georgia. one state away from my home state of florida.

sat in a cubical night shift in a m.i. unit, fixing internet, and phone lines all over the world.

 

pretty boring job.

so i found out about internet forums,

and the devil child was born.

 

got out because i didnt want to kill anybody, forign or domestic, for lots of political and personal reasons i dont want to mention, i guess im just not the killing type.

 

ide rather be geocaching, dumpster diving, flirting with pretty women, shopping at local organic grocery stores, and just plain enjoying the fine weather.

 

is that so wrong? according to my bosses it was the worst possible thing i could tell them.

 

oh well,

im out and my contract ended in 2009, completely.

 

i can now become a hippy.

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