SuMpn FuNkY Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 don't u think it would be awesome, if there was an actual accurate updated geocaching.com ranking? what do people think? i know personally it would be even more motivating for me... FuNkY Quote Link to comment
+Tsegi Mike and Desert Viking Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 Wasn't that already covered here? That moss-covered bucket I hailed as a treasure, For often at noon, when I returned from the field, I found it the source of an exquisite pleasure. Samuel Woodworth The Old Oaken Bucket Quote Link to comment
+ZingerHead Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 Of course, you've seen this, right? There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary numbers, and those who don't. Quote Link to comment
CacheMonkeez Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 Yes! It would be awesome. I wish gc.com had more stats and database queries...not sure why others are allowed to mine this data. Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 It wouldn't do anything for me. While I am impressed with a person's ability to find a gazillion caches, its not practical for many of us because of where we live or what our other responsibilities are. Also, it would be impossible to ever accurately compare one cache to another so the results of any ranking system would be inherently flawed. I vote no to any official ranking system of cachers. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 Why? You could have someone who runs up hundreds of finds on 1/1's and locationless caches, while others spend their time bagging a few challenging caches. How can you compare the two? "It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues" -Abraham Lincoln Quote Link to comment
claypigeon58 Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 Awesome is the last word I would use to describe rankings. They have rankings on Where's George and there's always those who have to cheat. This isn't a competition, so let's leave it that way. Quote Link to comment
+Jaguar1 Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 quote: Awesome is the last word I would use to describe rankings. They have rankings on Where's George and there's always those who have to cheat. This isn't a competition, so let's leave it that way. Geocaching is described as a game in the FAQright? What's the point of playing if you are not going to be competitive? "Following animal paths may make the bushwacking a little easier, but probably won't pay off in the long run, since deer tend not to geocache much." - Geocacher Peeve on the Vaught Ranch Bushwackin Fun (B.D. #2) cache Quote Link to comment
Dinoprophet Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 quote:Originally posted by ChrisfromMS:What's the point of playing if you are not going to be competitive? It's fun. "Winter's just the curtain. Spring will take the bow" -- Richard Shindell, Spring Quote Link to comment
Jeremy Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 quote:Originally posted by ChrisfromMS:What's the point of playing if you are not going to be competitive? If you're right, why is this game popular without the rankings? Look up "game" on Merriam-Webster Online as a noun, definition 1a. It's a synonym to "sport." Jeremy Irish Groundspeak - The Language of Location Quote Link to comment
+DapperDanMan Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 Ranking would be fine with me. Many of us really don't care about being ranked and I have no problem if I am listed as number 23,339 on the list. I play Hearts online and my ranking is around 7,000 and I could care less. I just play for fun but there are some people that really get into the ranking and it makes it more enjoyable to them. Maybe there could be a setting in your profile if you want to be "ranked". If you do not enable this, you do not show up in the ranking system. This way those that want to play the ranking game can and the rest of us just do what we normally do. It seems like everybody wins. This web site does need money to run and maybe Jeremy could make it so only registered users have the option to be "ranked". Someone has to program a good ranking feature. This may get more people to register. It would be hard though for a new person to start competing against someone who has 2000+ finds. If there was a ranking system, you would have to have a few different ranking areas. These would be listed separately -Most caches found based on 1 point per cache -Most caches based on Difficulty/Terrain - 1 point for each star -Monthly Rank. Most caches found based on 1 point per cache (resets to 0 every month for each user wishing to be ranked) -Monthly Rank. Most caches based on Difficulty/Terrain - 1 point for each star (resets to 0 every month for each user wishing to be ranked) If it was set up this way, then those that want to play a competitive game have a new chance every month. It would also have to be set up where finding a cache that you already found does not count. Many of us will be on the sidelines just laughing at people going crazy trying to be on the list. If some people do want it, I don't see how it would hurt those that don't. As long as the ranking system does not have a top ten losers ranking [This message was edited by agentjack on May 07, 2003 at 09:04 AM.] Quote Link to comment
+WildcatRegi Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 AgentJack said: quote:Ranking would be fine with me. Many of us really don't care about being ranked and I have no problem if I am listed as number 23,339 on the list. I play Hearts online and my ranking is around 7,000 and I could care less. I just play for fun but there are some people that really get into the ranking and it makes it more enjoyable to them. I tend to agree here's my ranking at SetiAtHome "Your rank out of 4472621 total users is: 116623rd place" and I'm actually in the top 97%! I can't let being in 116,623 place stop me from finding ET though! Setiathome "The hardest thing to find is something that's not there!" Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 There is a ranking. http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/leaderboard Takes a while to load. "It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues" -Abraham Lincoln Quote Link to comment
Team Bohica Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 quote:Originally posted by MuzzleBlast!: I tend to agree here's my ranking at SetiAtHome "Your rank out of 4472621 total users is: 116623rd place" and I'm actually in the top 97%! I can't let being in 116,623 place stop me from finding ET though! http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ How about this... Results Received: 73268 Total CPU Time: 85.268 years Average CPU Time per work unit: 10 hr 11 min 1.1 sec Average results received per day: 257.16 Your rank is: 412th place. You have completed more work units than 99.991% of our users. Yes, those are our real stats. We have just a bit of horsepower lying around. -- Not Necessarily Interesting News Quote Link to comment
+Newenglandah Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 Why? You could have someone who runs up hundreds of finds on 1/1's and locationless caches, while others spend their time bagging a few challenging caches. How can you compare the two? LOL -This wouldn't work for me and *SunBug* cause for some reason it takes us no time to find 3/5's but hours to find 1/1's My Caching Site Do you get funny looks from co-workers -when you say your going into the woods with a 200$ gadet to find kids toys? See You In the Woods!!! Natureboy1376 Quote Link to comment
CacheMonkeez Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 Why not provide the rankings and stats and those who are competitive and enjoy that aspect of the game can be all over it and those who don't care don't bother with it? It's a win-win. Quote Link to comment
+Allen_L Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 While I have no problem with other people wanting a scoring system, I prefer that Jeremy and the other geocaching.com developers spending their time improving the performance to handle the constantly increasing number of geocachers. If you really want a scoring system, you can do like skydiverand setup your own. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 quote: Why not provide the rankings and stats and those who are competitive and enjoy that aspect of the game can be all over it and those who don't care don't bother with it? It's a win-win. Hammack, its been done. http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/leaderboard Takes a while to load. "It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues" -Abraham Lincoln Quote Link to comment
+reepicheep Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Jeremy Irish:Look up "game" on http://www.m-w.com as a noun, definition 1a. It's a synonym to "sport." Jeremy Irish Groundspeak - The Language of Location Seems like a lot of the time 1b fits better - "often derisive or mocking jesting". I live in the ~Erik and mtn-man Atlanta area and 1b defines geocaching for their caches . Kenneth Quote Link to comment
claypigeon58 Posted May 9, 2003 Share Posted May 9, 2003 quote:Originally posted by ChrisfromMS:Geocaching is described as a game in the http://www.geocaching.com/faq.aspright? What's the point of playing if you are not going to be competitive? Oh gee, I don't know. Maybe the comraderie, the scenery, the time with my daughter, the exercise, reading logs of my placed caches, geocaching events, going to new places. Good grief, I geocache as a diversion and relaxation. I know that doesn't hold a candle to competing, so I guess I'm shortchanging myself when it comes to this whole thing. Quote Link to comment
+Duc996 Posted May 9, 2003 Share Posted May 9, 2003 Well I'm un-abashed at saying this is competition for me. Being the first to find, the fastest, the most difficult, the longest. I'd love for the site to have a ranking like Dan's site but if it doesn't I'll live. Those of us that compete will find a way within the rules to compete. Darwinian Geocaching...Hey that gives me an idea.... Quote Link to comment
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