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When cache GCFFFF gets approved, the cache waypoint naming scheme will have to be changed, an event I call the "The Great Renumbering." This thread gives everybody an opportunity to lay claim to their estimate of when it will occur.

 

The pool prize is: fame and reknown among the geocaching cognoscenti. Admins are, of course, not eligible to play. icon_eek.gif

 

GCFFFF will be cache number 65535. My pick, based on Extensive Mathematical Modeling, is May 19. Here's my graph of the growth of geocaching:

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My pick is May 12th. Reasons? Although Fizzy has demonstrated linear growth over the relatively long term, I believe that the harsh winter weather has caused a backlog of caches that are waiting to be placed (we have five in the works). Once the weather improves in snowy climates, there will be a brief non-linear growth spurt. And also, May 12th is a Monday. Cache placements always spike on weekends.

 

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Posted

April 15th

 

There are a lot of people, in this area at least, waiting until the weather warms up a little before placing thier caches so their will be a BUMP UP in the placements.

Posted

I pick 5-4-03, just because the numbers look cool.

 

--Marky

"All of us get lost in the darkness, dreamers learn to steer with a backlit GPSr"

Posted

I pick about 1-2 days before the outburst of various programmers weeping uncontrollably that then start dealing with all the code that assumes a simple hex->decimal translation between GC numbers and IDs.

Posted

quote:
Originally posted by robertlipe:

I pick about 1-2 days before the outburst of various programmers weeping uncontrollably that then start dealing with all the code that assumes a simple hex->decimal translation between GC numbers and IDs.


 

except for those of us who abstracted the conversion and only have to change one function. icon_biggrin.gif

Posted

April 18th looks about right. I kind of like the holding back during the winter theory. It's hard to remember that people in other parts of the country aren't enjoying really nice spring like weather.

 

george

 

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Posted

With winter drawing to a close (finally), I think that April 27th sounds like a good date. Most new cache placements are done on weekends.

 

By the way can I submit a new cache now and have the admins hold it untill then and get the last number?? icon_rolleyes.gif

 

$1000 Bill geocaching is living in a 30 foot circle

Posted

Ahhhh. Guestimation time. I think cache GCFFFF will be placed on May 3, but the cacher will have a flat tire in a rainstorm and not get it submitted until the morning of May 4. It will be approved during an episode of Junkyard Wars. Not actually on the show, but that's what I'll be watching when the cache approval goes through. Unless I'm out fighting mosquitos and poison ivy.

Posted

quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Snazz:

quote:
Originally posted by robertlipe:

I pick about 1-2 days before the outburst of various programmers weeping uncontrollably that then start dealing with all the code that assumes a simple hex->decimal translation between GC numbers and IDs.


 

except for those of us who abstracted the conversion and only have to change one function. icon_biggrin.gif


 

Then your specific slice of "all that code" is small. There's a growing amount of code out there that will require some non-zero amount of effort to cope.

 

Has a mapping between GC#'s and id #'s been announced and published? I saw Elias propose a couple of schemes, but I don't recall it sounding very authoritative at the time.

Posted

I pick May 20, just cause that is my birthday!

-edit- oops, I was 2 minutes too late; what are the odds of that! I guess great minds think alike icon_wink.gif.

Posted

quote:
Originally posted by robertlipe:

Has a mapping between GC#'s and id #'s been announced and published? I saw Elias propose a couple of schemes, but I don't recall it sounding very authoritative at the time.


 

Last I heard, the conversion spec won't be published. You'll submit the cache ID to be converted to a script at geocaching.com, along with your Application ID Number (not sure if these are given out for free or not). The number you get back will allow you to reference a specific cache for a period of 24 hours before expiring.

Posted

I'm laying claim on April 21st. I would have picked the 20th, but Maleki beat me to it. Justifications? I think everyone is waiting for warm weather to stash their cache......and because it seems that Monday morning is the day most of our new caches show up........

 

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Posted

The big number was already reached on 2 January 2003. (note the magic second point on the graph)

 

The US government, frightened that the world markets would tumble, secretly reverse engineered the numbers to look like the great number was still ahead of us at the same time starting a small war as a diversion.

 

I claim the prize (plus I have an original super 8 home movie of the man standing to the left of the programmer)

 

Lance

It's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

Posted

Well, Bill D (wwh) stole my April 2 date (which is my B-Day!!), so I'll box him in by taking April 3.

 

Learned that trick on "The Price is Right"...

 

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"Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand."

Posted

and here I thought I was cool trying to get a troll id to become the 100000th userid on the site

 

numbers and magic go well together

 

please make a graph for me so I can win the lottery

 

cheers,

 

canadazuuk

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I predict "never" based on Jeremy's recent addition of GUIDs to the GPX extension spec. I don't know what short names geocaches will have in the future, but they won't be mapped to integer IDs because integer IDs will

(apparently) cease to exist.

 

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Posted

quote:
Originally posted by tylosaurus:

can anyone explain the great renumbering to me? Is there some reason why they can;t list them all the way to GCZZZZ? And, do we know what the new scheme will be?


 

OH Boy! are you asking for it. Now you're going to get a Hexidecimal math lesson or two.

 

$1000 Bill geocaching is living in a 30 foot circle

Posted

I was kinda wondering the same basic thing. When the supply of GCxxxx runs out, why not simply go to GDxxxx.... I'm sure there's a good reason,(at least I hope there is) I just don't know what it is.

 

Just because you're paranoid DOESN'T mean they're not ALL out to get you.

Posted

quote:
Originally posted by fizzymagic:

Admins are, of course, not eligible to play. icon_eek.gif


Well, then, I will take May 13th. Sounds like a lucky day to me. BTW, I am not actually an admin, I just play one in the forums... icon_razz.gif
Posted

Instead of GDhhhh, I'd rather drop the C in GC and have 5 hex numbers for a possible total of 1,048,575 geocaches using Ghhhhh ... and if it grew to over a million caches and we still wanted legacy support for old GPSrs with only 6 character waypoints, then they'd have to switch to another leading letter.

 

What's this talk about guids? Any details or URLs for further reading on the current ideas for expanding the waypoint naming system?

 

Thanks,

DON of NovaNow

Posted

April 12th...because the world revolves around my birthday. Proven scientific fact.

 

-shilfiell

 

"I'm too old to be doing this" - me to nobody, from too high up in a pine tree.

Posted

May 1st still open?

 

Just sounded good and I didn't see it on the list

 

Something hidden. Go and find it. Go, and look behind the Ranges -- Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you . . . Go!

- Rudyard Kipling "The Explorer"

Posted

quote:
Originally posted by Treasure Hunters Inc.:

quote:
Originally posted by tylosaurus:

can anyone explain the great renumbering to me? Is there some reason why they can;t list them all the way to GCZZZZ? And, do we know what the new scheme will be?


 

OH Boy! are you asking for it. Now you're going to get a Hexidecimal math lesson or two.

 

$1000 Bill geocaching is living in a 30 foot circle


 

Actually that isn't such a bad suggestion....True in the conversion you would have "gaps", but instead of doing a total renumbering just grandfather those caches at the Number they currently own.

 

Since the numbers are used only for Identification purposes it wouldn't hurt that a new cache being assigned GC000G after GCFFFF...True if it was really BASE 26 it would have a lower value, but since we're not using it for addition or subtraction there should be any Problem!!!

 

Logically I don't see a problem if we do this....RAM access is run the same way.

 

There is nothing like a Packrat who is a geocacher.

Posted

I was going to pick 4 May so I could do the old "May the Fourth be with you" gag but it looks like its already taken

So I'll pick April 22 because it just after Easter which is bound to be a busy time.

 

Rich

mobilis in mobili

Posted

quote:
Originally posted by Treasure Hunters Inc.:

quote:
Originally posted by tylosaurus:

can anyone explain the great renumbering to me? Is there some reason why they can;t list them all the way to GCZZZZ? And, do we know what the new scheme will be?


OH Boy! are you asking for it. Now you're going to get a Hexidecimal math lesson or two.

 

Here's your Hexidecimal math lesson. And it has a prediction I made a long time ago. I have to update the page.

 

Markwell

Chicago Geocaching

Posted

...we will hit the great renumber point on May 18, 2003.

 

I like May 18th. So does Fy, for some reason. icon_smile.gif

 

-Jif

 

Of course, the admins have some control over this, as they could create a backlog of caches and purge the backlog on the day they choose... icon_smile.gif

Posted

There.

 

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