+fizzymagic Posted March 10, 2003 Posted March 10, 2003 When cache GCFFFF gets approved, the cache waypoint naming scheme will have to be changed, an event I call the "The Great Renumbering." This thread gives everybody an opportunity to lay claim to their estimate of when it will occur. The pool prize is: fame and reknown among the geocaching cognoscenti. Admins are, of course, not eligible to play. GCFFFF will be cache number 65535. My pick, based on Extensive Mathematical Modeling, is May 19. Here's my graph of the growth of geocaching: Quote
+Team Tecmage Posted March 10, 2003 Posted March 10, 2003 The growth of Geocaching and cache placement has been non-linear- May 10th. Quote
+Bill D (wwh) Posted March 10, 2003 Posted March 10, 2003 I reckon it'll be 2nd April. I was going to say the first of April but you'd think I was winding you up... Bill Quote
+Jennifer&Dean Posted March 10, 2003 Posted March 10, 2003 Friday, June 13th! -Jennifer Where am I going? I ain't certain. When will I get there? I don't know. All as I know is I am on my way! Quote
+The Leprechauns Posted March 10, 2003 Posted March 10, 2003 My pick is May 12th. Reasons? Although Fizzy has demonstrated linear growth over the relatively long term, I believe that the harsh winter weather has caused a backlog of caches that are waiting to be placed (we have five in the works). Once the weather improves in snowy climates, there will be a brief non-linear growth spurt. And also, May 12th is a Monday. Cache placements always spike on weekends. x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x I was formerly employed by the Department of Redundancy Department, but I don't work there anymore. Quote
+Rygel Posted March 10, 2003 Posted March 10, 2003 Dang Leprachaun stoled my date!! Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine. Quote
+FFC Posted March 10, 2003 Posted March 10, 2003 April 15th There are a lot of people, in this area at least, waiting until the weather warms up a little before placing thier caches so their will be a BUMP UP in the placements. Quote
+Marky Posted March 10, 2003 Posted March 10, 2003 I pick 5-4-03, just because the numbers look cool. --Marky "All of us get lost in the darkness, dreamers learn to steer with a backlit GPSr" Quote
+Mopar Posted March 10, 2003 Posted March 10, 2003 Gimme May 3rd, 2003 Tae-Kwon-Leap is not a path to a door, but a road leading forever towards the horizon. Quote
robertlipe Posted March 10, 2003 Posted March 10, 2003 I pick about 1-2 days before the outburst of various programmers weeping uncontrollably that then start dealing with all the code that assumes a simple hex->decimal translation between GC numbers and IDs. Quote
+Mr. Snazz Posted March 10, 2003 Posted March 10, 2003 quote:Originally posted by robertlipe:I pick about 1-2 days before the outburst of various programmers weeping uncontrollably that then start dealing with all the code that assumes a simple hex->decimal translation between GC numbers and IDs. except for those of us who abstracted the conversion and only have to change one function. Quote
+georgeandmary Posted March 10, 2003 Posted March 10, 2003 April 18th looks about right. I kind of like the holding back during the winter theory. It's hard to remember that people in other parts of the country aren't enjoying really nice spring like weather. george Pedal until your legs cramp up and then pedal some more. Quote
+Blue Man Posted March 10, 2003 Posted March 10, 2003 I pick May 16, the Friday before a busy weekend. Quote
+Renegade Knight Posted March 10, 2003 Posted March 10, 2003 April 1, just because what better day could it happen on? Wherever you go there you are. Quote
+Treasure Hunters Inc. Posted March 10, 2003 Posted March 10, 2003 With winter drawing to a close (finally), I think that April 27th sounds like a good date. Most new cache placements are done on weekends. By the way can I submit a new cache now and have the admins hold it untill then and get the last number?? $1000 Bill geocaching is living in a 30 foot circle Quote
+bitbrain Posted March 10, 2003 Posted March 10, 2003 Ahhhh. Guestimation time. I think cache GCFFFF will be placed on May 3, but the cacher will have a flat tire in a rainstorm and not get it submitted until the morning of May 4. It will be approved during an episode of Junkyard Wars. Not actually on the show, but that's what I'll be watching when the cache approval goes through. Unless I'm out fighting mosquitos and poison ivy. Quote
robertlipe Posted March 10, 2003 Posted March 10, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Mr. Snazz: quote:Originally posted by robertlipe:I pick about 1-2 days before the outburst of various programmers weeping uncontrollably that then start dealing with all the code that assumes a simple hex->decimal translation between GC numbers and IDs. except for those of us who abstracted the conversion and only have to change one function. Then your specific slice of "all that code" is small. There's a growing amount of code out there that will require some non-zero amount of effort to cope. Has a mapping between GC#'s and id #'s been announced and published? I saw Elias propose a couple of schemes, but I don't recall it sounding very authoritative at the time. Quote
+MeeCachers Posted March 10, 2003 Posted March 10, 2003 I'll take May 20 - for no other reason than that it is my birthday. Quote
+Uplink Posted March 10, 2003 Posted March 10, 2003 I pick May 20, just cause that is my birthday! -edit- oops, I was 2 minutes too late; what are the odds of that! I guess great minds think alike . Quote
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted March 10, 2003 Posted March 10, 2003 April,16,2003. The first full moon after the 20th of March. WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS *GEOTRYAGAIN* http://www.msnusers.com/MissouriTrails Quote
+Mr. Snazz Posted March 10, 2003 Posted March 10, 2003 quote:Originally posted by robertlipe:Has a mapping between GC#'s and id #'s been announced and published? I saw Elias propose a couple of schemes, but I don't recall it sounding very authoritative at the time. Last I heard, the conversion spec won't be published. You'll submit the cache ID to be converted to a script at geocaching.com, along with your Application ID Number (not sure if these are given out for free or not). The number you get back will allow you to reference a specific cache for a period of 24 hours before expiring. Quote
+Delta-S Posted March 10, 2003 Posted March 10, 2003 What do we get if we can hide the first renumbered geocache? Quote
+maleki Posted March 10, 2003 Posted March 10, 2003 April 20, 2003 - for several reasons - but mostly because May 20 is not my bday... Quote
+Team Shibby Posted March 10, 2003 Posted March 10, 2003 Since my son was born May 04 and I am May 17, I am going in the middle and Ill say May 11, 2003!! Just my wild guess, I am not too scientific!! Kar TEAM SHIBBY!!!! Krs, Kar & Na Quote
+Geo-Johnson's Posted March 10, 2003 Posted March 10, 2003 I'm laying claim on April 21st. I would have picked the 20th, but Maleki beat me to it. Justifications? I think everyone is waiting for warm weather to stash their cache......and because it seems that Monday morning is the day most of our new caches show up........ Children are natural mimics who act like their parents despite every effort to teach them good manners. Quote
+Lance Ambu Posted March 10, 2003 Posted March 10, 2003 The big number was already reached on 2 January 2003. (note the magic second point on the graph) The US government, frightened that the world markets would tumble, secretly reverse engineered the numbers to look like the great number was still ahead of us at the same time starting a small war as a diversion. I claim the prize (plus I have an original super 8 home movie of the man standing to the left of the programmer) Lance It's dark and we're wearing sunglasses. Quote
+Ltljon Posted March 10, 2003 Posted March 10, 2003 I realize someone else has also predicted this date but I gotta...it's my daughter's birthday! Quote
+Team Teuton Posted March 10, 2003 Posted March 10, 2003 4-29 I've been going in circles my whole life. May as well make a hobby of it. Quote
+Stunod Posted March 10, 2003 Posted March 10, 2003 Well, Bill D (wwh) stole my April 2 date (which is my B-Day!!), so I'll box him in by taking April 3. Learned that trick on "The Price is Right"... "Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand." Quote
+canadazuuk Posted March 10, 2003 Posted March 10, 2003 and here I thought I was cool trying to get a troll id to become the 100000th userid on the site numbers and magic go well together please make a graph for me so I can win the lottery cheers, canadazuuk Quote
+The Cheeseheads Posted March 11, 2003 Posted March 11, 2003 April 14th - - - - - Wisconsin Geocaching Association Quote
+majicman Posted March 11, 2003 Posted March 11, 2003 April 28, 2003 (Same date as the publication of my book!) (Blatant self-promoting advertisment above!) --majicman Quote
+parkrrrr Posted March 11, 2003 Posted March 11, 2003 I predict "never" based on Jeremy's recent addition of GUIDs to the GPX extension spec. I don't know what short names geocaches will have in the future, but they won't be mapped to integer IDs because integer IDs will (apparently) cease to exist. Quote
+dino_hunters Posted March 11, 2003 Posted March 11, 2003 can anyone explain the great renumbering to me? Is there some reason why they can;t list them all the way to GCZZZZ? And, do we know what the new scheme will be? Quote
+Treasure Hunters Inc. Posted March 11, 2003 Posted March 11, 2003 quote:Originally posted by tylosaurus:can anyone explain the great renumbering to me? Is there some reason why they can;t list them all the way to GCZZZZ? And, do we know what the new scheme will be? OH Boy! are you asking for it. Now you're going to get a Hexidecimal math lesson or two. $1000 Bill geocaching is living in a 30 foot circle Quote
+IV_Warrior Posted March 11, 2003 Posted March 11, 2003 I was kinda wondering the same basic thing. When the supply of GCxxxx runs out, why not simply go to GDxxxx.... I'm sure there's a good reason,(at least I hope there is) I just don't know what it is. Just because you're paranoid DOESN'T mean they're not ALL out to get you. Quote
+mtn-man Posted March 11, 2003 Posted March 11, 2003 quote:Originally posted by fizzymagic:Admins are, of course, not eligible to play. Well, then, I will take May 13th. Sounds like a lucky day to me. BTW, I am not actually an admin, I just play one in the forums... Quote
+DNova Posted March 11, 2003 Posted March 11, 2003 Instead of GDhhhh, I'd rather drop the C in GC and have 5 hex numbers for a possible total of 1,048,575 geocaches using Ghhhhh ... and if it grew to over a million caches and we still wanted legacy support for old GPSrs with only 6 character waypoints, then they'd have to switch to another leading letter. What's this talk about guids? Any details or URLs for further reading on the current ideas for expanding the waypoint naming system? Thanks, DON of NovaNow Quote
+Shilfiell Posted March 11, 2003 Posted March 11, 2003 April 12th...because the world revolves around my birthday. Proven scientific fact. -shilfiell "I'm too old to be doing this" - me to nobody, from too high up in a pine tree. Quote
+bigcall Posted March 11, 2003 Posted March 11, 2003 May 1st still open? Just sounded good and I didn't see it on the list Something hidden. Go and find it. Go, and look behind the Ranges -- Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you . . . Go! - Rudyard Kipling "The Explorer" Quote
+retphoto Posted March 11, 2003 Posted March 11, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Treasure Hunters Inc.: quote:Originally posted by tylosaurus:can anyone explain the great renumbering to me? Is there some reason why they can;t list them all the way to GCZZZZ? And, do we know what the new scheme will be? OH Boy! are you asking for it. Now you're going to get a Hexidecimal math lesson or two. $1000 Bill geocaching is living in a 30 foot circle Actually that isn't such a bad suggestion....True in the conversion you would have "gaps", but instead of doing a total renumbering just grandfather those caches at the Number they currently own. Since the numbers are used only for Identification purposes it wouldn't hurt that a new cache being assigned GC000G after GCFFFF...True if it was really BASE 26 it would have a lower value, but since we're not using it for addition or subtraction there should be any Problem!!! Logically I don't see a problem if we do this....RAM access is run the same way. There is nothing like a Packrat who is a geocacher. Quote
el10t Posted March 12, 2003 Posted March 12, 2003 I was going to pick 4 May so I could do the old "May the Fourth be with you" gag but it looks like its already taken So I'll pick April 22 because it just after Easter which is bound to be a busy time. Rich mobilis in mobili Quote
+Skully & Mulder et al. Posted March 12, 2003 Posted March 12, 2003 I think I'm the third to pick that date but it is my birthday and I am willing to split the prize. Quote
+Markwell Posted March 12, 2003 Posted March 12, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Treasure Hunters Inc.: quote:Originally posted by tylosaurus:can anyone explain the great renumbering to me? Is there some reason why they can;t list them all the way to GCZZZZ? And, do we know what the new scheme will be? OH Boy! are you asking for it. Now you're going to get a Hexidecimal math lesson or two. Here's your Hexidecimal math lesson. And it has a prediction I made a long time ago. I have to update the page. Markwell Chicago Geocaching Quote
+TeamJiffy Posted March 12, 2003 Posted March 12, 2003 ...we will hit the great renumber point on May 18, 2003. I like May 18th. So does Fy, for some reason. -Jif Of course, the admins have some control over this, as they could create a backlog of caches and purge the backlog on the day they choose... Quote
+Gimpy Posted March 12, 2003 Posted March 12, 2003 April 23rd. No special reason. Just the first number that popped up. Gimpy KC2KNI Quote
Milgren Posted March 12, 2003 Posted March 12, 2003 There. ---------------------------------------------------------- Until you have the courage to lose sight of the shore, You will not know the terror of being forever lost at sea. Quote
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