Kengo Posted October 8, 2002 Posted October 8, 2002 OK, I've scoured this newsgroup, and I have yet to find an answer to this simple question: "what is the deal with this coin thing I've found?!?!" The coin I've found does not have any tracking number on it, or anything else. It's a green and black coin That says "geocaching.com - Cache The World" on one side, and has the Geocaching logo on the other. It's pretty professional looking, too. Not some piece of crap that someone decided to use. Someone clearly took some time creating it. I just wish I knew who, so I'd know what I'm supposed to do with it!!! Quote
umc Posted October 8, 2002 Posted October 8, 2002 If it were me I would keep it as a token (pun intended) of the cache find. I think that would be a great find and hope that I come across one some day. Thats my geocoins worth ______________________________________________________________________________________ Confused New Owner Of a Garmin GPS V Received on 10-03-02 Quote
+briansnat Posted October 8, 2002 Posted October 8, 2002 You seem to have one of Crusso's Geocoins. He had them made and a number of other NY/NJ area Geocachers chipped in. I found one myself last week. You can keep it as a souvineer, put it in another cache, drill a hole in it and attach a travel bug, skip it across a pond,put it in your eye and imitate Col. Klink, or throw it in the basket at one of the Parkway toll booths (that might get u a fine tho). "Life is a daring adventure, or it is nothing" - Helen Keller Quote
+The Leprechauns Posted October 8, 2002 Posted October 8, 2002 I looked at your recent cache finds and traced backwards to the geocoin placer. You have found one of Team BLT's geochips. CRusso was kind enough over the summer to take orders from a number of cachers, including Team BLT, and had these very professional chips made up. Either move it on to another cache, or keep it as a cool souvenir. If you choose to keep it, you might send a thank-you note to the owner. There are others in your area who also ordered these kind of geocoins, and there are different variations of geocoins in circulation all over the world. x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x- What would life be like if there were no hypothetical questions? Quote
+GeoSharks Posted October 8, 2002 Posted October 8, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Kengo: It's a green and black coin That says "_geocaching.com - Cache The World_" on one side, and has the Geocaching logo on the other. I found one simular to that near Lodi, Ca. last weekend. Except mine is a red and black chip. I think I will keep mine. Alan Quote
MTET Posted October 8, 2002 Posted October 8, 2002 Could someone post a picture of one of these coins? They sound interesting. Throw the pumpkin at the tree, unless you think that pumpkin holds your destiny. Quote
+Fattuhr Posted October 9, 2002 Posted October 9, 2002 quote:Originally posted by GeoSharks: I found one simular to that near Lodi, Ca. last weekend. Except mine is a red and black chip. I think I will keep mine. Alan I have ordered some of those coins myself, and have left them in caches. The one you found was not placed by me, but I think it was placed by GeoCrickets. They ordered some as well. My wife says put a coordinate on it and I'll find it. Quote
azog Posted October 9, 2002 Posted October 9, 2002 with all the hubbub going on regarding the logo, I'd say keep it. It may turn into a real collector item once the supply is gone... ---------- Do not answer a fool according to his folly, lest you be also be like him. Quote
+CT Trampers Posted October 9, 2002 Posted October 9, 2002 The chip is one of the Geocoins (I refer to them as Geochips) that Crusso designed and ordered. They were made by a poker chip company. I was in on the initial order and picked up 50. I leave them in every cache I visit. (Mostly CT, Westchester, and Putnam County caches, although one made it to NH) In fact, Crusso was kind enough to give permission (since it was his artwork) to the company to print 300 more for us, which we are expecting soon. They seem to be the first thing people take. We will be creating a travel bug out of one soon. We will continue to place in caches until we run out. (Of course, we'll keep a few for ourselves) Quote
+SamLowrey Posted October 9, 2002 Posted October 9, 2002 quote:Originally posted by CT Trampers:The chip is one of the Geocoins (I refer to them as Geochips) that Crusso designed and ordered. They were made by a poker chip company. I was in on the initial order and picked up 50. I leave them in every cache I visit. (Mostly CT, Westchester, and Putnam County caches, although one made it to NH) In fact, Crusso was kind enough to give permission (since it was his artwork) to the company to print 300 more for us, which we are expecting soon. They seem to be the first thing people take. We will be creating a travel bug out of one soon. We will continue to place in caches until we run out. (Of course, we'll keep a few for ourselves) Thanks for the info - since learning of geocoins, I have become very interested in them - almost to the point of making my own. A buddy of mine left a casino chip from Reno as a trade item that someone had given him. I was really sharp looking. And I have heard of someone using poker chips as geocoins. I'll do a search on that name you supplied to see if I can find out more. Quote
+bigredmed Posted October 9, 2002 Posted October 9, 2002 Cool items to use as a signature item. I have put my email address on mine and numbered them. I hope that finders will email me and I will be able to use them like a travel bug. Given the cost of ordering them in bulk like we did with Crusso, they weren't too expensive and sure beat lugging around a bunch of trade items, and always wondering if you are trading up or down. By appointment to the Court of HRM Queen Mikki I. Quote
+GeoSharks Posted October 9, 2002 Posted October 9, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Alienskier:Could someone post a picture of one of these coins? They sound interesting. Here is the one I found last weekend near Lodi, Ca. Hope I can get this to work right. Quote
+ron50eli Posted October 11, 2002 Posted October 11, 2002 be happy and keep it. i have put several in the caches ive done in north ga. and in the area of fl i live in( new port richey) they are to keep as a token of your own do anything you like. they do go over well and im gonna get more ,i hope to put in caches. happy and safe caching Quote
+ron50eli Posted October 21, 2002 Posted October 21, 2002 Like Eli said. Be happy & keep it. They will soon be collector items. I'm his other half. We put 4 to the side for us to keep. They came in red, blue, yellow & green. We don't have many left to put in caches now, so they are far & few between. Happy & Safe Caching. rocker51 Quote
philip36 Posted October 21, 2002 Posted October 21, 2002 None of them in on the Westcoast? They look great and I wish I could get my hands on one of them! Quote
+Slower Pace Posted October 21, 2002 Posted October 21, 2002 I found a Texas Geocoin a few weeks ago. After all the discussion on copyrite logos and such, I believe I will hang on to it for a while, maybe forever! It is absolutely beautiful. It would be difficult to part with, to be sure. It is polished brass, about the size of a 50 cent piece. I did contact the website and logged it. I hope the folks at Geocaching.com will allow some of these coins to be minted. Mine even says Geocaching.com on it, and has the logo on one side. It seems like that is "free advertising" to me, promoting this great sport/game. In no way did I interpret that coin as an infringment on the logo. Quote
+ron50eli Posted October 26, 2002 Posted October 26, 2002 I think what the problem is all about is not the logo it's self, but,......that to have items with the logo on them cost money & whoever makes them has to make money for time & effort, material.ect. So in other words the logo is making someone else money. I guess that's it. H&SC rocker51 Quote
+aquapowers Posted January 13, 2003 Posted January 13, 2003 I have two that I found in CT. It is a great item to find in a cache. With all the inquires, perhaps I should put them up for sale on ebay Nah, I'll hold on to them. Quote
Jomarac5 Posted January 13, 2003 Posted January 13, 2003 In Canada you can purchase and track geocoins at www.geocoins.ca. They're gorgeous coins and a sought after find. Quote
+elifish Posted January 13, 2003 Posted January 13, 2003 "I think what the problem is all about is not the logo it's self, but,......that to have items with the logo on them cost money & whoever makes them has to make money for time & effort, material.ect. So in other words the logo is making someone else money." So what if they don't have the logo, but a local logo? Is just using www.geocaching.com infringement? What about just the word geocaching? I'm wondering, because yes, us west coast folks do need these, and maybe I can get some made, but what is ligit? elifish Quote
+Shoebox Posted January 14, 2003 Posted January 14, 2003 The poker chips seem interesting. I looked at the geocoins a while ago but the set up cost for the graphics to cast the first one was expensive. What does the set up for the poker chips cost and who does them? They seem very interesting. Moun10bike flew through Pittsburgh a while ago and left one of his geocoins and my daughter and I jumped on it. It's our favorite souveniers. Shoebox. Quote
+Team Mixster Posted January 14, 2003 Posted January 14, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Jomarac5:In Canada you can purchase and track geocoins at http://www.geocoins.ca. They're gorgeous coins and a sought after find. I found one of these about a month ago. It was pretty tough to let go. But, I figure that someone else was nice enough to log it and set it free, why not? (It's still waiting at one of the Sith Impossible boxes last I checked) -Mixster Quote
+CT Trampers Posted January 14, 2003 Posted January 14, 2003 The company that makes the Geochips is www.pokerchips.com. The minimum order quantity is 300.00 cost was around $275.00 I think. If you want to get some made using the same printing as Crusso's chips, would suggest contacting Crusso and getting permission from him, as he is the one who designed the chips. We asked before placing our order and he said it was OK. Glad everyone seems to like the chips. Quote
+ron50eli Posted January 14, 2003 Posted January 14, 2003 You can't get the chips shown in the pictures above anymore. The logo, (picture) artwork, or what ever you may call it is pat. by the founder. Although there are other legal designs that can be used. I'm not sure where or who to contact. But if you find one of the originals, as discribed back in Oct/Nov.?? Keep it. They have become a collectors item. rocker51 Quote
+CT Trampers Posted January 14, 2003 Posted January 14, 2003 I'm a bit confused.. When you say "founder" do you mean Jeremy of Geocaching, or Crusso, the original designer of the chips? We had no problem getting the chips. The company suggested we contact Crusso and gt permission to use his design. We did and they made them up for us. Sad if we can't get anymore of those. Oh well, maybe we'll have to start hoarding them. Also, have a stepbrother in New Port Richie FLA. Don, is that you? Quote
+CT Trampers Posted January 14, 2003 Posted January 14, 2003 I'm a bit confused.. When you say "founder" do you mean Jeremy of Geocaching, or Crusso, the original designer of the chips? We had no problem getting the chips. The company suggested we contact Crusso and gt permission to use his design. We did and they made them up for us. Sad if we can't get anymore of those. Oh well, maybe we'll have to start hoarding them. Also, have a stepbrother in New Port Richie FLA. Don, is that you? Quote
+ron50eli Posted January 14, 2003 Posted January 14, 2003 Sorry for the confusion. The chips, if I'm not mistaken, are the ones used in Vegas. The design on them are pat. by Jeremy. The design is what cannot be used. But you can still have a chip or coin, whatever, made. I don't know about wording. But the picture of the little guy with the flag & all cannot be used. I would contact Jeremy on that. As the logo is pat. & you can be sued for using it without permission. Unless something has changed resently.?????? However, there are other designs that can be used. They are in another topic somewhere in Groundspeak. As to your second ?, no. My better half is Ron not Don. rocker51 Quote
+CT Trampers Posted January 14, 2003 Posted January 14, 2003 Thanks for the clarification-- Oh well-- Certainly would not have ordered them if I knew it was a no-no. Figured that since Crusso was able to order them originally all was OK. I guess we won't be so liberal in trading them now. Also, thanks for the answer regarding the stepbrother thing. If your Garbage man is named Don, say hello from Al in CT! Happy caching! Quote
+ron50eli Posted January 14, 2003 Posted January 14, 2003 CT, If you ordered some chips & got them, what did they look like & when was it? Some coins/chips have been approved. But to be more clear, not the ones in the pictures above. Not, unless like I said something changed. rocker51 Quote
+CT Trampers Posted January 14, 2003 Posted January 14, 2003 They are the same exact chips that are pictured in the Sharks post. Got them in Sept/October 2002. Quote
+The Leprechauns Posted January 14, 2003 Posted January 14, 2003 I recommend consulting the site's Logo Usage Guidelines and Trademark Information page and e-mailing the administrators if there is any question about a permissible use of their trademarked logos. Read about the exceptions, including the one for creating 25 or fewer items for personal, non commercial use, etc. Alternatively, use one of the "public domain" logos that were created so that we geocachers wouldn't be stepping on Groundspeak's intellectual property by using and customizing their logo. One of the most popular free user-created logo's is the "GX" logo designed by Leatherman. I customized it in my avatar photo to the left by adding a shamrock, others have customized differently... you can't do that with Groundspeak's logo. I put the GX logo on all my cache containers because it's so easy for a non-artist to draw. There are other public domain logos that are much more elegant, such as Gustav's designs, and therefore better for use on a geocoin or poker chip. Download your favorite public domain logo at brdad's website's logo page, where you'll also find a link to the forum discussion thread that started it all. Read the whole history (now several months old) behind public domain logos! x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x If there's no accounting for stupidity, then why do I need to file a tax return? Quote
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