+El Diablo Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 I got this idea from the Magellan treasure chest and made one of my own. I have the wood weather proofed but I need to know how to seal the lid to make it water proof. Any ideas? This container is 6x3x4 El Diablo Everything you do in life...will impact someone,for better or for worse. http://www.geo-hikingstick.com Quote Link to comment
+CYBret Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 Carve out a channel and put a bead of silicon caulk in it? I dunno..sounds like a tall order. You might be better off with a waterproof container within the box. Very cool box, though...wish I could do stuff like that. Bret "The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field. When a man found it, he hid it again." Mt. 13:44 Quote Link to comment
+-=(GEO)=- Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 Very nice! Have you tried thin rubber gaskets? I just googled in "rubber gaskets" and one of the links with promising stuff was http://www.rubber-gaskets.com/foam-rubber-products.html . Their foam tape might do it. Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 Check out the ammo can system. It works and could be adapted to this container with a router, a large hammer, and lots of persperation and inspiration. Glue in the metal lip such that it impresses agasint a rubber seal on the other edge. The hinge could have to latch such that it pulls the seam together tight. Quote Link to comment
+Ttepee Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 This brings back memories...sad as they are. Looks like the same box I sent off my traveling cache and travel bug Gilbert I sent the box off mostly plain and Gilbert only in early stages of carving with the request for the geocaching community to add what they could. Shortly before he disappeared he had a nice logo on his boxtop and he'd grown all sorts of vitals. But my point is..the box is not waterproof.. I would not trust it... I picked up a waterproof surplus bag for 3.00 ...well actually I got 3 of them for 10... siliconed a geocaching label to the outside and it did the trick. It might take away from the treasure chest impression..but it protects and adds a different component to the whole thing... I still have two bags left if your interested let me know. Quote Link to comment
+Navdog Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 Now that is some Deja vu. We used the same container for our Legend of Skull Hollow Cache. I don't see any way you can waterproof that basswood container. We put ours in an ammo can nestled in a foam depression in the box to keep it from moving around. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted August 3, 2003 Share Posted August 3, 2003 Cool container. I think some of the ideas here may help make it water resistant, but I don't see how you can make it waterproof (in a ammo box sort of way). Find small Ziplocs to hold the log book and contents and place it where its sheltered from the elements. That should do the trick. "Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, he'll sit in a boat and drink beer all day" - Dave Barry Quote Link to comment
+El Diablo Posted August 3, 2003 Author Share Posted August 3, 2003 Thanks for all the suggestions. I guess it's back to the drawing board. El Diablo Everything you do in life...will impact someone,for better or for worse. http://www.geo-hikingstick.com Quote Link to comment
+2CacheSharks Posted August 3, 2003 Share Posted August 3, 2003 Ziplock makes a bag that holds 2 gallons. Your box should fit into that and that might help keep the h2o out. Quote Link to comment
+TEAM 360 Posted August 3, 2003 Share Posted August 3, 2003 Maybe some sheet gasket material, from Home Depot or an auto parts place, and cut it to fit around the lid. All-weather silicone on one side and when the lid is closed it should make a decent seal.... Quote Link to comment
+ScurvyDog Posted August 3, 2003 Share Posted August 3, 2003 Hi there, what if you made a groov around the top and bottom and put in an o ring. If the two o rings hit each other it should be pretty water tight. Like someone said, basswood has lots of holes in it. Is box sealed both inside and out? How does this sound to you all? Quote Link to comment
+El Diablo Posted August 3, 2003 Author Share Posted August 3, 2003 quote:Originally posted by ScurvyDog:Hi there, what if you made a groov around the top and bottom and put in an o ring. If the two o rings hit each other it should be pretty water tight. Like someone said, basswood has lots of holes in it. Is box sealed both inside and out? How does this sound to you all? O.K...now where do I find the "O" rings? The box is sealed inside and out with a stain sealer and 3 coats of polyurenthene or how ever you spell it. El Diablo Everything you do in life...will impact someone,for better or for worse. http://www.geo-hikingstick.com Quote Link to comment
+BullDogBob&Double00 Posted August 3, 2003 Share Posted August 3, 2003 How about the rubber that hold screen to the frame on your home windows. This could be purchased at any hardware store and should make a tight seal. "WITHOUT GEOGRAPHY YOU'RE NOWHERE....Jimmy Buffett Quote Link to comment
+fly46 Posted August 3, 2003 Share Posted August 3, 2003 I would say that if you put all of the contents in ziploc baggies they will be okay... I went on a day it was raining to a cache in a gladware container, and the contents were still dry... So just ziploc everything and try not to place the chest anywhere that it looks like water will puddle. Quote Link to comment
+jollybgood Posted August 4, 2003 Share Posted August 4, 2003 What about redesigning the lid so it overlaps the outedges of the chest when closed? That way water would run off the lid like shingles on a roof. You could line the lip of the box with weatherstripping. Jolly R. Blackburn http://kenzerco.com "Never declare war on a man who buys his ink by the gallon." Quote Link to comment
+Stunod Posted August 4, 2003 Share Posted August 4, 2003 You should be able to find replacement window weatherstripping at any home/hardware store. You can get 1/2" x 1/16" or 1/8" adhesive backed foam rubber that should compress down and make it pretty weather-tight. "Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand." - Homer Simpson Quote Link to comment
umc Posted August 4, 2003 Share Posted August 4, 2003 I like the idea of running a groove in the lid with a dremel and filling it with silicone rtv and letting it sit open until it dries, and that will be your custom 'O' ring. __________________________ Caching without a clue.... Quote Link to comment
+Mark 42 Posted August 4, 2003 Share Posted August 4, 2003 You could varnish it inside & out w/ urethane (to protect the box itself) and then put the contents in a ziplock baggie (or two) inside of the box. Hukt un fonix werkt fur mee Quote Link to comment
Fakk 2 Posted August 4, 2003 Share Posted August 4, 2003 I have a wooden chest made already, and was trying to figure out how to get waterproof, I ended up with just putting a film canister inside it. so outside looks good, then opens up and see the ty[ical micro. I bought a GPS. Now I get lost with style. Quote Link to comment
+El Diablo Posted August 4, 2003 Author Share Posted August 4, 2003 Thanks once again for all the suggestions. I like the idea of using the Dremel tool to create a groove and then fill it with silicone. The only problem is the back hinges...there is no way of grooving around them. I'm about convinved that there is no way of waterproofing the inside. I have had several inquiries on selling these. For what you would get and the cost of shipping I'm not sure they are worth it. It might be better if I taught you how to make one and just stick with selling Geo-hiking Staffs. El Diablo Everything you do in life...will impact someone,for better or for worse. http://www.geo-hikingstick.com Quote Link to comment
+Mark 42 Posted August 4, 2003 Share Posted August 4, 2003 Too late now, but for reference to anyone else who wants to make something similar: I had an idea (it didn't even hurt)... You could start with a waterproof container (like tupperware) and then build the box to house the sealed container inside it. Sort of like a shipping crate for the waterproof container. Hukt un fonix werkt fur mee Quote Link to comment
+Mark 42 Posted August 4, 2003 Share Posted August 4, 2003 I wonder if you could put vaseline on one part (like the lid) of the chest, and then run a bead of silicone along the other side. Maybe unscrew the hinge, and don't push the parts all the way together while the silicone is curing so that it will be a bit thick and get squeezed under pressure when you close the lid after it has fully cured. Maybe some automtive weatherstipping would be useful? Hukt un fonix werkt fur mee Quote Link to comment
+parkrrrr Posted August 4, 2003 Share Posted August 4, 2003 quote:Originally posted by El Diablo:Thanks once again for all the suggestions. I like the idea of using the Dremel tool to create a groove and then fill it with silicone. The only problem is the back hinges...there is no way of grooving around them. I assume this is because the hinges are mortised into the top edge of the box and the bottom edge of the lid? One way to waterproof around them might be to glue a small block on the inside of the rim adjacent to the hinge, and groove that. It'll make for a little less room in the box, of course. In the future, consider using strap hinges, or butt hinges in a strap-hinge-like configuration (i.e. screwed to the outside of the box.) It won't look as "finished," but it'll be easier to seal. Quote Link to comment
+ScurvyDog Posted August 6, 2003 Share Posted August 6, 2003 I have found boxes that look simular to yours for lest than $2.00 @ Michales Crafts, they are unfinished. spelling may be off. They are made I think of bass wood. Hope I haven't messed something up for you. Quote Link to comment
umc Posted August 6, 2003 Share Posted August 6, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Mark 42:You could start with a waterproof container (like tupperware Did anyone else laugh at that? Not your suggestion because its a good one but the idea of tupperware being waterproof is funny to me. No offense. El Diablo, buy some different hinges that mount on the out side of the box. __________________________ Caching without a clue.... Quote Link to comment
SLCDave Posted August 6, 2003 Share Posted August 6, 2003 You could start with a waterproof container (like tupperware) and then build the box to house the sealed container inside it. Sort of like a shipping crate for the waterproof container. I've thought about doing this very thing. I have leftover scrap lumber after rebuilding my fence, and thought that might be kinda cool. Just hadn't gotten to it yet. "I'm 35 Years old, I am divorced, and I live in van down by the river!" - Matt Foley Quote Link to comment
+joefrog Posted August 6, 2003 Share Posted August 6, 2003 quote:Originally posted by SLCDave:You could start with a waterproof container (like tupperware) and then build the box to house the sealed container inside it. Sort of like a shipping crate for the waterproof container. I was about to suggest the exact same thing. Go to an outdoors store or scuba store and find what's called an "otter box." You *might* find one to fit your chest as is, but your best bet is to build a new chest around the otter box. Good luck! Joel (joefrog) "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for ye are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!" Quote Link to comment
Pantalaimon Posted August 6, 2003 Share Posted August 6, 2003 Why don't you shrink wrap the whole thing about 48 times. That ought to keep out any water. Oh. Wait. Do you want to open it again? Pan "The internet to tell me where. A GPS to get me there." Quote Link to comment
+Mark 42 Posted August 6, 2003 Share Posted August 6, 2003 I was just thinkin about suggesting a box that's made of 1/4" thick plate & welded shut all around... But it did give me an idea to weld a treasure chest of some 3/8" plate steel I have laying around (no, I'll put a hinged lid on it!) Hukt un fonix werkt fur mee Quote Link to comment
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