+geomaineiacs Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 Here is my favorite trade of the day from a cache log I just checked in Maine: "Left empty altoids tin, took verizon phone card." Boy, what a deal! That tin is almost as nice as the damp motel soap bar I found in a cache yesterday. What is it with these people? Quote Link to comment
+Doc-Dean Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 How about took $100 bill and left spit! Didn't really happen, but it could have! --------------------------------------------------- Free your mind and the rest will follow Quote Link to comment
+TMAN264 Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 Ahhhhh, but the Altoids tin can be put to use as a stage in a multi cache.......beauty is in the eye of the storm, grasshopper.. Make a sanity check. Quote Link to comment
Shaguardriver Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 Where is that Cache! I have been really wanting to get an empty Altoids Tin!! Some people are in it for the fun and some are in it for whats in it for them. My Son summed it up Best. "More Treasure Daddy Find More!” Quote Link to comment
+bigredmed Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 Some people are in it for the stuff, but we do have a problem in this sport. To wit: I went out to a cache last night. Beautiful night. clever hide. Lots of wildlife. Great so far, then opened the cache. Cache full of broken mctoys.Hard to get excited about trading. The trading aspect needs some guidelines to firm it up. (signature items only or labeled items only?) There are too many down trades and geotrashcans. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nebraskache/ Quote Link to comment
+brdad Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 I remember that log! One could assume he was thinking the altiods tin had value as a micro container - I guess it depends also on the value of the phone card. Another log I see every now and then is "Coords were good, but I couldn't find the cache". Unless the clue is very obvious, how does one know coods are good??????? Warning: Objects in GPS may be closer than they appear! Quote Link to comment
+zoltig Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 bigredmed is soooo correct. While doing a check-up on one of my own caches, I found a single gardening glove. I thought mayby Michael Jackson visited my cache. It is a shame that over geocaching time, a cache degrades so much that all you have to look forward to is the hunt. Mind you, I love the hunt and adventure and the thrill of opening the box. It could be that when some of the "flash-in-the-pan" cachers lose interest, the cache contents will stay a little healthier. Lend me your ear while I call you a fool. Quote Link to comment
+Doc-Dean Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 At least he didn't spit in the Altoids can! --------------------------------------------------- Free your mind and the rest will follow Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 quote: While doing a check-up on one of my own caches, I found a single gardening glove. I thought mayby Michael Jackson visited my cache. I found a pair of filthy work gloves with holes in them in one cache. They were wet too. Yuk! "You can't make a man by standing a sheep on his hind legs. But by standing a flock of sheep in that position, you can make a crowd of men" - Max Beerbohm Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 Recently I snagged a bad trade and took it to a an event cache to give to the onwer and ask what they were thinking. The item they traded was broken and the item they took relatively expensive. When I arrived I told the host and they told me not to go there and told me why. So I stuck it in my pocket and watched and waited and the person was both friendly, and spent extra time to make a special treat for everyone at the event. Even though I'd met them before a I didn't know them well at all. A little extra time at this event and I realized that the host was correct and that my idea was completly off base. There is a little more to the story but the forums are not the place for more details than what little I gave. Maybe it was a bad trade, but not for me. Their trade is now going into my mojo bag as a lesson learned and cheap at the price. Quote Link to comment
+Criminal Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 quote:Originally posted by bigredmed:Some people are in it for the stuff, but we do have a problem in this sport. To wit: I went out to a cache last night. Beautiful night. clever hide. Lots of wildlife. Great so far, then opened the cache. Cache full of broken mctoys.Hard to get excited about trading. The trading aspect needs some guidelines to firm it up. (signature items only or labeled items only?) There are too many down trades and geotrashcans. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nebraskache/ True, caches do degrade over time, but that’s what cache maintenance is for. To limit people to signature or labeled items only would be a mistake. The military patches I like to leave are not labeled, neither are the tourniquet/belt things. I’ve said in one of the numerous other times this has come up that the coolest things I like to see in a cache are items unique in some way. Some extraneous trinket from work or something the average person couldn’t get. A bag of cheap plastic bugs from the dollar store is OK, but it’s something I would leave behind, label or not. But leave a pen or mug with a logo like “Black Cow Brand Cow Manure” and it’s going with me. http://fp1.centurytel.net/Criminal_Page/ Quote Link to comment
+Search1128 Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 An altoids tin costs $2.29 at the grocery store (full of mints). A phone card ( 13 cents per min for 20 min - you know the kind you get at Sam's club or Costco in bulk) rounds down to approx 2.50. The trade seems moderately fair. Quote Link to comment
+woodsters Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 Perhaps there was no time left on the phone card! Last week at a cache event, my son and I were going cache to cache. Most of them were micros. He made a comment how he didn't like them, nnot because he didn't find them, but because there was nothing to trade or at least we had nothing small enough to trade. I explained to him it was more about the hunt than what is inside. He didn't go for it. He said he liked to find the stuff in them. Well yesterday, after he got out of school, I asked if he wanted to go caching. He said sure. So we headed out and hit five of them. Everyone we found did not have anything we desired to take out. We logged our find and posted a TNLN. A lot due to the mosquitos. When we got home, he now says that he likes micros, even though we didn't go after any yesterday. He says he had more fun going after them and finding them than to worry about what was in them. It made me proud to hear him say that. Now he is hoping that we will have a be caching weekend. I gotta start making plans. He wants to end the weekend with at least 100 finds. We are at 52 now, so it is doable. Hopefully the weather will hold up and we get the chance... Brian As long as you're going to think anyway, think big. -Donald Trump Quote Link to comment
+CrimsonWrath Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 Does anyone know if there was any time left on the card? Quote Link to comment
Trogdor! Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 As logged by The Widget at my cache Johnson’s Gate: “The guards would not let me drive in, had to park outside and ride in. This was my first attempt a biking and caching, I pushed it most the way up but the ride down was quick and easy. Took the Moun10bike geocoin, left nothing.” Wow, you can’t imagine how disappointed I was to here that one of the great Moun10bike geocoins had made it to Southern California, only to be snagged by someone who didn’t trade fair! I’m willing to bet The Widget keeps the coin. Seems like I'm learning more about Geocachers and less about Geocaching. When in trouble, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout! Quote Link to comment
+brdad Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 No one logged placing the card, so it was either placed there by the hider, a cacher who does not log online, or a logger who didn't mention it. So call time, if any, is undeterminable. Unless the card was in original packaging, the taker would have also have been making a gamble as to it's value. Anyway, It's not worth dwelling over. The best we can do is set an example and educate the newer cachers. Warning: Objects in GPS may be closer than they appear! Quote Link to comment
+tozainamboku Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Trogdor!:As logged by The Widget at my cache Johnson’s Gate: “The guards would not let me drive in, had to park outside and ride in. This was my first attempt a biking and caching, I pushed it most the way up but the ride down was quick and easy. Took the Moun10bike geocoin, left nothing.” Wow, you can’t imagine how disappointed I was to here that one of the great Moun10bike geocoins had made it to Southern California, only to be snagged by someone who didn’t trade fair! I’m willing to bet The Widget keeps the coin. I was first to find Trogdor!'s cache. I had read in the forums how cache's degrade - but this cache was full of what I considered junk and I was first to find. I took the only things I thought were worth trading for - a Where's George Dollar and an LA Marathon pin - Then I realize I didn't have much to trade with me. I left a compass and the Moun10bike coin that I had. I had been holding on to the Moun10bike to put in a cache that I though was worthy - particularly one that would be good for mountain bikers to go to. In spite of my disappointment with how Trogdor! had stocked his cache, the hike to the cache, the location of the cache, and the method he used to hide the cache made it worthy of the Mount10bike coin. This cache made me realize that the trading part has very little influence as to whether or not I enjoy a particular cache hunt 東西南北 Why do I always find it in the last place I look? Quote Link to comment
Aksor+Raskol Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 I think by the time I found my third or fourth cache I was over fantasizing what priceless goodies were waiting hidden for me. To me the thrill is in the hunt, and if there's something neat in the cache that appeals to me it's icing on the cake and I'll take it and leave something of equal or better value. But more times than not it's "SL/TN/LN". Quote Link to comment
+bigredmed Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Criminal: True, caches do degrade over time, but that’s what cache maintenance is for. To limit people to signature or labeled items only would be a mistake. The military patches I like to leave are not labeled, neither are the tourniquet/belt things. I’ve said in one of the numerous other times this has come up that the coolest things I like to see in a cache are items unique in some way. Some extraneous trinket from work or something the average person couldn’t get. A bag of cheap plastic bugs from the dollar store is OK, but it’s something I would leave behind, label or not. But leave a pen or mug with a logo like “Black Cow Brand Cow Manure” and it’s going with me. Agreed. These are often the coolest items in a cache. The thing is, if we are going to have trading as part of the game, we need to have some suggestions or guidelines for what to trade. We have "rules" for what NOT to put in a cache, but nothing to tell a new play what would be GOOD to put in caches. This is my suggestion. That we as a group come up with suggestions for what kind of items work as trade items. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nebraskache/ Quote Link to comment
+Mark 42 Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 A recent cache I found had an old, used leather wallet in it. I really didn't want to touch the dang thing since there's no way to know who's sweaty butt had been sitting on it for years "I'm not Responsible... just ask my wife, She'll confirm it" Quote Link to comment
+Criminal Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 I had a titanium (axial flow) impeller from a fuel pump off a C-141B aircraft, about fist size. If I didn’t like the dadgum thing so much, I’d put it in a cache. I think it would be a cool find for someone. I agree though that there seems to be a lack of common sense by some players. I think we should add it to the list of things that J should add to the site; a primer on trading linked from the hide/find a cache page. I’ll sit here holding my breath until he responds... http://fp1.centurytel.net/Criminal_Page/ Quote Link to comment
+brdad Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Criminal:I had a titanium (axial flow) impeller from a fuel pump off a C-141B aircraft, about fist size. If I didn’t like the dadgum thing so much, I’d put it in a cache. I think it would be a cool find for someone. I agree though that there seems to be a lack of common sense by some players. I think we should add it to the list of things that J should add to the site; a primer on trading linked from the hide/find a cache page. I’ll sit here holding my breath until he responds... That's another issue there. If you was to just throw that impeller in a cache, there are probably a large percentage of people that would think it's an old worthless muffler bearing. I see a lot of stuff in caches - rocks, coins, and other stuff - which without some identification could appear worthless and traded for junk. I love the unique stuff like that, but it's be much better suited to be placed in a ziplock along with a description, worth even more if it included some history. I almost bought some cold war era pen style radiation detectors from a electronics surplus place for trade items because they were neat, but unfortunately, they were sold out before I had the chance to even get one. But, like your impeller, without some form of documentation, many would have no idea what it was. Warning: Objects in GPS may be closer than they appear! Quote Link to comment
+Criminal Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 If you could see it you would know how cool it looks. Even so, you're right about the history, I would definitely include a brief description of what it is and where it came from. I have a bunch of those pens and have seeded some into my and other's caches in my area. http://fp1.centurytel.net/Criminal_Page/ Quote Link to comment
Team Kender Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Search1128:An altoids tin costs $2.29 at the grocery store (full of mints). A phone card ( 13 cents per min for 20 min - you know the kind you get at Sam's club or Costco in bulk) rounds down to approx 2.50. The trade seems moderately fair. I agree and would probably take the altoids tin. Team Kender - "The Sun is coming up!" "No, the horizon is going down." Quote Link to comment
+Team Shibby Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 During a maintenance visit to our cache I noticed some local kids had found it quite a few times. Each time they found it, they signed the log and took a toy and replaced it with either rocks or sticks. This could be cute once or twice, but if it continues I will archive it Kar Quote Link to comment
+Team GPSaxophone Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Team Kender: quote:Originally posted by Search1128:An altoids tin costs $2.29 at the grocery store (full of mints). A phone card ( 13 cents per min for 20 min - you know the kind you get at Sam's club or Costco in bulk) rounds down to approx 2.50. The trade seems moderately fair. I agree and would probably take the altoids tin. Team Kender - "The Sun is coming up!" "No, the horizon is going down." Altoids tins (with mints inside) are only $1.50 at Wal-Mart. They don't sell empty ones. Took sun from sky, left world in eternal darkness Quote Link to comment
+SamLowrey Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Team GPSaxophone: Altoids tins (with mints inside) are only $1.50 at Wal-Mart. They don't sell empty ones. Yeah, the whole thing sounds like a rationalization to me. Even if the tin was full: 1) I wouldn't eat them and 2) they shouldn't be in a cache. Quote Link to comment
+woodsters Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 Sounds kind of high to me on the phone cards too. 13 cents a minute? I know I've seen them for 5 cents a minute and maybe less.. Brian As long as you're going to think anyway, think big. -Donald Trump Quote Link to comment
+joefrog Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 quote:Originally posted by tozainamboku: Wow, you can’t imagine how disappointed I was to here that one of the great Moun10bike geocoins had made it to Southern California, only to be snagged by someone who didn’t trade fair! I’m willing to bet The Widget keeps the coin. I left a compass and the Moun10bike coin that I had. I had been holding on to the Moun10bike to put in a cache that I though was worthy - particularly one that would be good for mountain bikers to go to. I've only seen ONE geocoin in my (albeit limited) caching, in a travelbug hotel outside of Queens, NY while visitng inlaws. One. The Moun10Bike coins are HIGH on my list of things to find. Joel (joefrog) "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for ye are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!" Quote Link to comment
+Mark 42 Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 If the kids are getting into your cache, you might consider a lock & key arrangement lik this one An impellor from a water pump on my truck could pass for aerospace parts... unles the person knows what Titanium smells like. Even an empty altoids tin will have a food scent to it. "I'm not Responsible... just ask my wife, She'll confirm it" Quote Link to comment
+Criminal Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Mark 42:If the kids are getting into your cache, you might consider a lock & key arrangement lik http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=74475 _ Criminal makes an evil grin.... http://fp1.centurytel.net/Criminal_Page/ Quote Link to comment
Team Titus213 Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 So what would you all think of the electric nose hair trimmer with the dead battery that I found in one of the few caches I've found. ------------------------- What are you looking for? Quote Link to comment
+The G Team Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 LOL! We visited the same cache this weekend and 10 y/o "G3" thought the mint tin was pretty lame as well. Our self-imposed rule is to leave something that we ourselves would like to find. "It is an old maxim of mine that when you have excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."--Sherlock Holmes Quote Link to comment
+RJFerret Posted August 28, 2003 Share Posted August 28, 2003 Did anyone look inside the altoids tin? Maybe there was a micro cache note all prepared with a blank log and mini pencil!? If you figure an hour of effort might've gone into it, it's now worth about $51.50 instead of $1.50. For me trading has become more of a hassle than pleasurable, trying to second guess if it'll be appreciated or not. Since I really don't care, I started leaving things but not taking anything. Then I realized how expensive that would become... Now TNLN unless there's something I really desire, however now I usually don't have good stuff on me, so end up leaving multiple $1.00 items. C'est la vie. quote:Originally posted by The "G" Team:"It is an old maxim of mine that when you have excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."--Sherlock Holmes How apropo! '...excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the trash!' Enjoy, Randy Quote Link to comment
+woodsters Posted August 28, 2003 Share Posted August 28, 2003 Hey Randy, think we can get a geocam placed near that benchmark and geoho's cache? The view on the beach( ), I mean of the water and island was fantastic! lol Brian As long as you're going to think anyway, think big. -Donald Trump Quote Link to comment
+brdad Posted August 28, 2003 Share Posted August 28, 2003 quote:Originally posted by RJFerret:Did anyone look _inside_ the altoids tin? Maybe there was a micro cache note all prepared with a blank log and mini pencil!? If you figure an hour of effort might've gone into it, it's now worth about $51.50 instead of $1.50. $50 an hour for putting together cache boxes? email me an application, will ya? Warning: Objects in GPS may be closer than they appear! Quote Link to comment
Bender Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 Took McToy, left something worse. Bender Searching, for the lost Xanadu Quote Link to comment
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